The Greatest Gracie

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  1. MGMustards Purple Belt

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    Who is the greatest Gracie?

    Let's not include Hélio, who is in his own category.

    For me its easy: Renzo. Pinoneer, Pride vet, ADCC champ, and still relevant today.

    Who you got?

    Also..... Does anyone know which fight Renzo quoted Julius Caesar in his post fight, "I came, I saw, I conquered"??? Thanks
     
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    The greatest Gracie is yet to come I believe, and bellator will develop him.



    In terms of historical figure of importance in mma it’s def Royce Gracie.
     
  3. aunshi189 Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    In terms of history in MMA - Royce
    In terms of mystique and legend - Rickson
    In terms of BJJ importance - Helio
    If all Gracies had a huge MMA tournament (in their primes) - Renzo or Roger I guess.
     
  4. gono btw Rounds...

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    > Modern MMA [1993-2010s]: Hoyce.

    IMO Henzo wouldnt have survived the Kimo Bomb on the ground.

    Had Hickson fought Huas, he would have a greater legacy.

    > Pioneer : Helio had a limited Vale Tudo experience. People tend to say it´s Carlson, but...George had a sick schedule back in the days, during the 1930s, could fight like 6-7-8 times per year... Obviously, his quarrel with the family didnt help his legacy/propaganda...
     
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  7. lts5025 "What the **** is a Dim Mack?"

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    Rolls was the most revolutionary and arguably the most technical and best. Everything Rickson is, Rolls was a better version.
     
  8. IndyCovaHart Steel Belt

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    Sakuraba and Eddie Bravo.
     
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    Matt Hughes
     
  10. MGMustards Purple Belt

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    How dare you sir.

    But you leave me no choice but to respect my elders here and that av. What was the name of the guy who first had it?
     
  11. IndyCovaHart Steel Belt

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    Shidokanartist.

    The first great post whore.
     
  12. MGMustards Purple Belt

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    I miss old Sherdog. I've been away for a decade or so. What is this place now?
     
  13. dormammu Banned Banned

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    Renzo or Carlos get my pick

    I laughed when people said Royce, why Royce, cause of his early ufc appearances?
     
  14. gono btw Rounds...

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    coz as great Henzo was, he wouldnt have had the same success in these early UFCs: he wouldnt have been able to eat Kimo´s bomb in the guard, stay composed and still secure the sub.
     
  15. Mob69 Black Belt

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    I've heard this before. What is the evidence for it? (Not disputing it, just curious)
     
  16. JacJeanFinger Brown Belt

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    Renzo is the greatest character. Kron Gracie, fighter.
     
  17. MMALOPEZ Gold Belt

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    Imo Renzo hands down.

    Royce dominated in an era of people that didn’t practiced Submissions nor its defense. Rickson was a mystique figure. But Renzo is the man. His schools and students are a sample of what he is...
     
  18. Stan Black Belt

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    Sure Renzo and his students are just a classy bunch, NOT!!!!
     
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    I will be honest with you guys: I have a VERY hard time remembering who is who in the Gracie family.
    The fact that they all have names that start with "R" doesn't help much.
    Royce, Rorion, Rickson, Royler, Rener... who the fuck is who, goddammit???
     
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    Rickson by armbar
     

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