The fighter who got screwed over the hardest?

Tony Ferguson is definitely up there. Having said that, him cutting weight twice in the span of 3-4 weeks didn't do him any favors when he was preparing for Gaethje.
 
ippikiookami said:
You guys aren't even close.

Sakuraba is the fighter that got most screwed.

A natural 185 pounder that could have cut to 170, he made a reputation and became a national hero beating Gracies, and fought some top-quality guys in his own weight class before being thrown to the wolves -- Igor Vov, Wandy, Rampage, Randleman, Cro Cop. It was like Pride was intentionally trying to kill him. They made the poor guy fight roided out Wandy three times, and Saku never complained at all as he was put through the ringer.

Imagine taking a guy like Robert Whittaker -- nice guy, takes care of business, good fighter -- and making him fight Jones, Ngannou, and the killers row of LHWs and HWs. That's what they did to Saku.

Letting people like Colby get title shots sucks, and it's all about drawing more eyeballs to the PPVs. But putting him against someone like Cormier in his prime? That's not even nearly as scary as Saku being put in with a prime Cro Cop.
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Add that loss in the UFC tournament. Although they did let him fight in the final as an alternate
 
Clicked assuming* that this was going to be a thread about Ronda Rousey get passed between Dana, Schaub, and finally Travis Browne.

ippikiookami said:
You guys aren't even close.

Sakuraba is the fighter that got most screwed.

A natural 185 pounder that could have cut to 170, he made a reputation and became a national hero beating Gracies, and fought some top-quality guys in his own weight class before being thrown to the wolves -- Igor Vov, Wandy, Rampage, Randleman, Cro Cop. It was like Pride was intentionally trying to kill him. They made the poor guy fight roided out Wandy three times, and Saku never complained at all as he was put through the ringer.

Imagine taking a guy like Robert Whittaker -- nice guy, takes care of business, good fighter -- and making him fight Jones, Ngannou, and the killers row of LHWs and HWs. That's what they did to Saku.

Letting people like Colby get title shots sucks, and it's all about drawing more eyeballs to the PPVs. But putting him against someone like Cormier in his prime? That's not even nearly as scary as Saku being put in with a prime CroCop.
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Solid #2
 
Silva in 2012 he signed a ten year contract that he could not get out of causing a major down fall
 
for me, Frankie Edgar for beating Ben Henderson twice and losing the decision
 
ferrisjso said:
Shields probably is the worst case I remember.

Fitch, Davis, Corey Anderson, Bader etc.
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If we're being fair, Shields arguably went winless in his UFC stint, on top of having a style that's not very palatable to even the most seasoned hardcore fan.
 
ippikiookami said:
You guys aren't even close.

Sakuraba is the fighter that got most screwed.

A natural 185 pounder that could have cut to 170, he made a reputation and became a national hero beating Gracies, and fought some top-quality guys in his own weight class before being thrown to the wolves -- Igor Vov, Wandy, Rampage, Randleman, Cro Cop. It was like Pride was intentionally trying to kill him. They made the poor guy fight roided out Wandy three times, and Saku never complained at all as he was put through the ringer.

Imagine taking a guy like Robert Whittaker -- nice guy, takes care of business, good fighter -- and making him fight Jones, Ngannou, and the killers row of LHWs and HWs. That's what they did to Saku.

Letting people like Colby get title shots sucks, and it's all about drawing more eyeballs to the PPVs. But putting him against someone like Cormier in his prime? That's not even nearly as scary as Saku being put in with a prime Cro Cop.
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What's Saku looking like these days? Last time I paid attention his ear got blown off.
 
Eat My Teep said:
You all have it wrong. Tony Ferguson got screwed worse than anybody. I can't get into it hella deep right now, but him and Khabib had many mutual opponents and Ferguson had a higher finish rate %. His resume was much better than Khabib's for a title shot imho. I wish I saved my post about it, but if you side by side their UFC resume, Tony was as good or better than Khabib on paper. He would have been champ if he got the shot before Justin turned him into the ghost of Tony.
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I agree that they fucked him over the worst, but that fight would've been tremendous at that time.
 
Demian Maia ? really? Wouldn't put him on the list. Beneil has it worse
 
Skarsgard said:
If we're being fair, Shields arguably went winless in his UFC stint, on top of having a style that's not very palatable to even the most seasoned hardcore fan.
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Close fight or not Shields was on a 3 or 4 fight winning streak(there was an NC)before the loss to Lombard that got him cut(also wiki says the Sexyama fight was 3-0 on all 3 scorecards haven't watched it in awhile do you think Sexyama won?). The last 2 wins were over Woodley and Maia who'd both go on to win and fight for the WW belt respectively.

And the style thing is discrimination but of the guys with that style the UFC has discriminated against Shields's cutting/letting go was the least defendable. Say what you want about his style his fight with GSP sold 800k PPV buys and broke a live gate record. The UFC also put his fight with Woodley on the freaking prelims.
 
Miguel Torres

Gets robbed of a win against Mighty Mouse after being the face of the WEC, then Dana goes apeshit over a random dumb rape van joke he made directed at nobody while on Twitter one day goofing around, and they blackballed him out of the league and paraded it around like Dana was some honorable defender of women by banning a guy who is super friendly, lived in poverty in Gary Indiana, and made most of his income teaching youth BJJ classes to impoverished kids.

Meanwhile wifebeater Dana has fistfulls of different knobslobbing asshole pool boys in oversized sunglasses like Conor throwing shit thru glass windows of busses or Colby making death threats against company employees, and they get bogus title shots.
Evil people who truly deserve the worst, while a good guy got left to live in an apartment in one of America's worst cities because of how he looked and just being used as a fake example by a wretched villain boss.
 
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ferrisjso said:
Close fight or not Shields was on a 3 or 4 fight winning streak(there was an NC)before the loss to Lombard that got him cut(also wiki says the Sexyama fight was 3-0 on all 3 scorecards haven't watched it in awhile do you think Sexyama won?). The last 2 wins were over Woodley and Maia who'd both go on to win and fight for the WW belt respectively.

And the style thing is discrimination but of the guys with that style the UFC has discriminated against Shields's cutting/letting go was the least defendable. Say what you want about his style his fight with GSP sold 800k PPV buys and broke a live gate record. The UFC also put his fight with Woodley on the freaking prelims.
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And if Shields hadn't spent his entire career being an insufferable cunt, I'd probably be throwing the UFC under the bus on this one.

I don't remember the Sex fight too much. I remember Shields being comfortably ahead, but Sexyama had the only memorable moments of the fight. It probably could have gone either way depending on what you valued the most in scoring back then. Shit was so ambiguous.

Now, cutting Okami was a fucking travesty.
 
Skarsgard said:
And if Shields hadn't spent his entire career being an insufferable cunt, I'd probably be throwing the UFC under the bus on this one.

I don't remember the Sex fight too much. I remember Shields being comfortably ahead, but Sexyama had the only memorable moments of the fight. It probably could have gone either way depending on what you valued the most in scoring back then. Shit was so ambiguous.

Now, cutting Okami was a fucking travesty.
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You're right he is an unsufferable cunt and it turned me off from being a fan used to like Shields a while back. That being said in terms of MMA find it hard to believe that was a factor given Conors reign of terror.

While that was a bad cut he's the only one of these guys they actually brought back. MW was one of the best divisions in UFC history when they cut Okami too. You had Gegard Mousasi as the 6th or 7th best fighter(cry Mouseites cry). Fucking insane.
 
ferrisjso said:
You're right he is an unsufferable cunt and it turned me off from being a fan used to like Shields a while back. That being said in terms of MMA find it hard to believe that was a factor given Conors reign of terror.
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Conor was a walking promo though. No one ever seemed to care about Shields. The GSP fight was an outlier, likely because of GSP's worldwide popularity.

Someone at work asked me what I want out of a fighter's personality. GSP. Safe, boring, and polite. GSP could be a literal pimp to a harem of chimpanzees and orangutans and I wouldn't know because he manages his privacy so damned well.

Yeah. They did, but it was at fucking 205.
Edit: Apparently I just missed the part where he jumped from 170 to 205.
 
Skarsgard said:
Conor was a walking promo though. No one ever seemed to care about Shields. The GSP fight was an outlier, likely because of GSP's worldwide popularity.

Someone at work asked me what I want out of a fighter's personality. GSP. Safe, boring, and polite. GSP could be a literal pimp to a harem of chimpanzees and orangutans and I wouldn't know because he manages his privacy so damned well.
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Yeah I know obviously his popularity is why he got away with that. But still it kind of numbs you to the regular assholery. Not in terms of liking the person but thinking they should be cut. Poor Paul Daley.

And yeah MM drastically improved in 2013. Was not the same fighter before that. Have read quite a few times MM v Torres is one of the clearest robberies in MMA history(I didn't WEC I don't know).
 
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