The fact that this guy with absolutely no technical skill was a top HW for so long is embarassing

[Thesnake101]

Ah yeah bro.

You should be challenging Ngannou, Gane or Jon Jones. You train UFC, 6'3", 255 of pure muscle. New GOAT.

He'd beat Ivanov imo.

 

[daniel san]

P4P greatest fighter to get dominated badly only to land a KO shot at the end of the fight. He has great power and a chin, but that’s pretty much it. I completely agree with TS, DC manhandling him is how most BB fights should have gone just that HW is incredibly weak.

Wouldn’t mind econoLewis dedicating himself to evolving and staying in shape. He’s get a great deal of raw talent, too bad he wasted his entire career not developing it. Let’s get him over to Power Slap and knock some fools out.

 

[7 others]

Sometimes having one such dimension.. that dimension may only helped till this point

 

[French Canadian]

Once Derrick Lewis loses a couple of fights....

Sherdog "The fact that this guy with absolutely no technical skill was a top HW for so long is embarassing"

Lewis has the most KO's in UFC history. Beat Ngannou, KO'd Blaydes, Volkov etc. he's obviously passed it now, he's nearly 40.

But I do love it when the SherDog shits on a fighter after they're clearly passed their prime, and evidently start losing.

Sherdog goes crazy and says they were always garbage fighters.

Didn't he himself say it would be embarrassing if he became Champion? Pretty sure he embraces the fact that he has no skills.

“If I’m the champion, the whole UFC division should be ashamed of itself.” Lewis said. “A guy that has no damn skills…what the hell is he doing being champion? They should all just relocate some damn where.”

 

[RiotWyatt]

Didn't he himself say it would be embarrassing if he became Champion? Pretty sure he embraces the fact that he has no skills.

“If I’m the champion, the whole UFC division should be ashamed of itself.” Lewis said. “A guy that has no damn skills…what the hell is he doing being champion? They should all just relocate some damn where.”

The problem is that very few of them have the combination of skills/athleticism to dismantle him the way DC did or many HWs of the past would've. It's been a very weak division for nearly a decade now.

 

[ookii]

Once Derrick Lewis loses a couple of fights....

Sherdog "The fact that this guy with absolutely no technical skill was a top HW for so long is embarassing"

Lewis has the most KO's in UFC history. Beat Ngannou, KO'd Blaydes, Volkov etc. he's obviously passed it now, he's nearly 40.

But I do love it when the SherDog shits on a fighter after they're clearly passed their prime, and evidently start losing.

Sherdog goes crazy and says they were always garbage fighters.

He has always been the same fighter that lost to Matt Mitroine and getting beat twice by a journeyman like Shawn Jordan. Even then he gave up on fights against battleworn JDS and Mark Hunt. He always did have luck on his side with his last min KO against Volkov and Blaydes stupidly diving into his uppercut on a fight where Blaydes was winning in the standup

 

[French Canadian]

The problem is that very few of them have the combination of skills/athleticism. It's been a very weak division for nearly a decade now.

I know. HW is the worst division and the most boring by far. Except for a couple of guys at the top (Ngannou, Gane, Stipe, Cormier, Werdum, JDS & co) it's been a shitshow for at least 5 years.

 

[gonads20]

Can someone tell me which era of the HW division that wasnt an embarrassment? I've been seeing these threads since I joined sherdog.

 

[RiotWyatt]

Can someone tell me which era of the HW division that wasnt an embarrassment? I've been seeing these threads since I joined sherdog.

Late 2000s - Early 2010s

Fighters in decline but still competitive:
Fedor, Barnett, Big Nog, Big Tim, Cro Cop, Couture

Fighters coming up:
Cain, JDS, DC.

Fighters in their primes:
Overeem, Werdum, Lesnar, Hunt, Mir, Carwin, Arlovski(sorta), Kharitinov

Note that many of these guys continued to be top 10 well into the late 2010s despite falling far from their primes.

 

[World eater]

Before disrespecting big guys for their lack of skill or chubbyness, remember if they kept it without weight classes like it was intended at the beginning, those unskilled HW's would literally be the only type to compete in this sport. Not easy to be athletic and skilled at that size and still take punches to the face for a living.

 

[Yrat]

He did ok in ufc

 

[RageQuitLord]

I always told people that if I ever became unemployed homeless etc = I’d just go fight at ufc heavy weight . I’m 6’3 255 lbs military measurements with an 81 in reach. I’m around 10% body fat, could possibly pass the drug test with the correct timing etc. I meet the requirements since apparently you don’t really need skills to compete at hw in the ufc lol. I’ve done some training in the past in sambo and Muay Thai. At 28, have been curious tbh. I mean seriously the blakov vs Tybura was embarrassing and they’re considered what top 10-15 hws? Smh. Lewis with no skills has beaten top fighters lol Maybe I’ll begin a YouTube series and document my training progress etc road to ufc hw . Dana likes that type of stuff

This poster and his AV are pretty sus

 

[Dr. Stoppage]

Its tough to believe Lewis defeated Francis and made it to the third vs. Gane based on a couple of his last performances.

Lewis like Chandler is around because he is one of these guys the UFC decided to invest in and that is that.

 

[Oz.Pride]

It's the BamBam curse. Once Tai puts you out it's all over.

 

[HyperrionMarteer]

I always told people that if I ever became unemployed homeless etc = I’d just go fight at ufc heavy weight . I’m 6’3 255 lbs military measurements with an 81 in reach. I’m around 10% body fat, could possibly pass the drug test with the correct timing etc. I meet the requirements since apparently you don’t really need skills to compete at hw in the ufc lol. I’ve done some training in the past in sambo and Muay Thai. At 28, have been curious tbh. I mean seriously the blakov vs Tybura was embarrassing and they’re considered what top 10-15 hws? Smh. Lewis with no skills has beaten top fighters lol Maybe I’ll begin a YouTube series and document my training progress etc road to ufc hw . Dana likes that type of stuff

Based sherdogger getting KTFO'd twice and released highlight reel incoming.

 

[Willek]

Thought this thread was going to be about Fedor. Dude literally is Chris Daukus and had people kiss his ass for 20 years because he beat some Japanese fellas back in the day.

 

[tastaylvr]

Can you define “technical ability” for me please? People use that word too loosely here

Too engrossed in the aesthetics of a fighter for the most part

 

[Quietus]

It is what it is.. that's HW MMA. It's not anomaly either, Mark Hunt, Tai Tuivasa and others got far at HW with pretty one dimensional skillset. The reason: There might be guys with elite skillsets, but there's no such thing as an elite chin that can eat clean shots from 300lb men. DC could've ended up like Blaydes if he stood and traded with Derrick for much longer than he did. Past a certain weight threshold you can get very far off of just having a big punch, it's true in boxing too, Wilder has knocked out so many guys who are better technical boxers than him, everyone he's fought except Fury (and he nearly got him too in the first fight)

 

[Vanzanto]

It is what it is.. that's HW MMA. It's not anomaly either, Mark Hunt, Tai Tuivasa and others got far at HW with pretty one dimensional skillset. The reason: There might be guys with elite skillsets, but there's no such thing as an elite chin that can eat clean shots from 300lb men. DC could've ended up like Blaydes if he stood and traded with Derrick for much longer than he did. Past a certain weight threshold you can get very far off of just having a big punch, it's true in boxing too, Wilder has knocked out so many guys who are better technical boxers than him, everyone he's fought except Fury (and he nearly got him too in the first fight)

You have absolutely hit the nail on the head on what I was about to say regarding heavyweight fighters.

The cupboard is pretty bare regarding genuinely talented heavyweight fighters in both boxing and MMA. In boxing, the talent at heavyweights has absolutely drained since the heyday of the 60s-70s and well and truly continues to get thinner.
MMA, I'd argue has always been bare since day one. The key to Lewis' success in MMA is waiting for the opposition to make that fatal mistake. There would be stuff all fights in Lewis' career where he would have been ahead on points. But, with heavyweight being as weak as it is standard-wise, the chance of an opportunity opening for Lewis in a fight would be pretty high. He was never a man who wasted much energy in a fight either.

Lewis damn well knew his strength and weaknesses and to his credit, fought to cater for them with success during his career.

 

[MeganFan]

I remember when Volkov almost finished him then Lewis feigned like he was really hurt so Volkov went easy on him, then the came back with a KO. This is why I don't like Black Beast, these type of antics in the cage, and his dumb post fight speeches.