The developed World has the same problem everywhere

[jk7707]

Sounds like TS just got done watching Red Dawn. Good movie, but not a documentary. It's ok. Happens to the best of us.

 

[PubliusVentidius]

The left as TS calls them eroded the boarders and invited all these unwashed savages into his home.
Iraq and Afghan weren't invaded by the left causing a refugee influx ( shit europe bore the brunt of the refugees anyway).

Let's look at recent waves of refugees and terrorists in europe and see what caused them shall we ?
Seems like TS doesn't want to accept responsibility for the U.S. destroying other countries with wars, cia backed rebellions and regime changes.

I don't like seeing boat loads of refugees showing up in my country TS but I accept the fact that we backed the U.S. and contributed to the refugee problem.

It's crazy how this simple point escapes those populist lemmings, they just look at the symptoms without tracing back the root causes. Westerners destroy, fund terrorist factions and destabilize entire countries in the Middle East killing gazillions of civilians in the process and then they blame ''teh left'' when the byproducts of all that destructive meddling are constant humanitarian crises.
The US actively supports a regime that is starving children to death as we speak (An estimated 85,000 children under the age of five have starved to death over the last three years as a result of Yemen's civil war).

''The coalition’s destruction of such vital civilian infrastructure has created the conditions necessary for the world’s largest humanitarian crisis – a crisis even larger than Syria according to the UN. The coalition has also used starvation as a weapon of war by blockading and interfering with the delivery of vital humanitarian and commercial assistance, which the majority of Yemeni civilians depend on for survival. Thanks to the war, more than 8 MILLION people are now on the brink of starvation and Yemen is home to the largest and fastest growing cholera crisis ever documented. Every 10 minutes, a Yemeni child under 5 dies from starvation or disease. It’s time to end America’s role in this suffering.

The United States’ Role in Yemen's Civil War

Congress has never authorized America’s involvement in this war in Yemen, yet for almost three years the United States has literally fueled the conflict and its war crimes. Since the beginning of the intervention in March 2015, the United States has provided midair refueling to coalition jets, shared intelligence for targeting assistance, other logistical support, and sold U.S. bombs to the coalition. Throughout the war, Saudi Arabia and its allies have targeted civilians, hospitals, schools, and farms with American made bombs dropped by planes refueled by America. Meanwhile, the US has provided Saudi Arabia and its allies political cover while they deliberately use starvation and disease as weapons of war, putting 8 million Yemenis a step away from famine. None of this brutality would be possible without continued American support.''

 

[tinker_190]

It's crazy how this simple point escapes those populist lemmings, they just look at the symptoms without tracing back the root causes. Westerners destroy, fund terrorist factions and destabilize entire countries in the Middle East killing gazillions of civilians in the process and then they blame ''teh left'' when the byproducts of all that destructive meddling are constant humanitarian crises.
The US actively supports a regime that is starving children to death as we speak (An estimated 85,000 children under the age of five have starved to death over the last three years as a result of Yemen's civil war).

''The coalition’s destruction of such vital civilian infrastructure has created the conditions necessary for the world’s largest humanitarian crisis – a crisis even larger than Syria according to the UN. The coalition has also used starvation as a weapon of war by blockading and interfering with the delivery of vital humanitarian and commercial assistance, which the majority of Yemeni civilians depend on for survival. Thanks to the war, more than 8 MILLION people are now on the brink of starvation and Yemen is home to the largest and fastest growing cholera crisis ever documented. Every 10 minutes, a Yemeni child under 5 dies from starvation or disease. It’s time to end America’s role in this suffering.

The United States’ Role in Yemen's Civil War

Congress has never authorized America’s involvement in this war in Yemen, yet for almost three years the United States has literally fueled the conflict and its war crimes. Since the beginning of the intervention in March 2015, the United States has provided midair refueling to coalition jets, shared intelligence for targeting assistance, other logistical support, and sold U.S. bombs to the coalition. Throughout the war, Saudi Arabia and its allies have targeted civilians, hospitals, schools, and farms with American made bombs dropped by planes refueled by America. Meanwhile, the US has provided Saudi Arabia and its allies political cover while they deliberately use starvation and disease as weapons of war, putting 8 million Yemenis a step away from famine. None of this brutality would be possible without continued American support.''

I want to add some points/observations to this-

First, I think the blaming of left/right is really fueled by both parties as a game-theory-based propaganda campaign. They use elements within the media to highlight the other parties most extreme ideologues and buffoons, thus alienating people from the fact that these two major parties are so strikingly similar when it comes to the long term trajectory of their foreign policy since GWB. Basically GWB, Obama and now apparently Trump have no qualms in using basically carte blanche military commands in the name of the War on Terror. Simultaneously, any new party or independent campaign is basically weeded before it can bloom.

As far as the "populist lemmings" go, I think an emphasis on a more isolationist trajectory for the USA goes hand in hand with a re-calibration of US foreign policy. You need a vanguard of intellectual leadership that are willing to go the opposite direction of the neocons. That intellectual vanguard is going to advocate a much more limited, strict immigration policy, at least in my observations. This vanguard is also going to oversee a completely changing economy, since war fuels the economy to some degree.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

People have extremely short memories. Our last 2 term Republican President literally destroyed America and dropped the ball on every major issue of the day.

 

[curryjunkie]

Government healthcare is crap. I wouldn't rely or depend on that.

Get a job and get some f**king insurance!

tell us about the private healthcare you had growing up in the uk......on second thoughts....dont..

 

[HunterSdVa29]

While you actually have a pt, the other main problem is there is no real right, just the NeoCon corporate bootlicking right (well in the US, clearly in Europe there is w/ the 5 star movement and other things)

So the choices, right now as we speak, are NeoLibs or Neocons, and then Progressive SJWs

The craziest part is the people left out could easily unite to make say the Libertarian power the standardbearer

 

[SherCuck]

Londonistan is a pretty good example. Though the brits have always been pants-shitters

 

[trac209]

And here are some photo's of Detroit.

1st world country, no war.

Different politics hard to judge..

 

[trac209]

Londonistan is a pretty good example. Though the brits have always been pants-shitters

Actually no they haven’t.

 

[EradiatedHaggis]

Different politics hard to judge..

Both have lead to poverty and destruction and in the end, included violence. One directly, the other indirectly.

 

[Cuauhtemoc]

Tell me why should I trust some bullsh*t rankings that somebody decided to make?
I believe my own eyes.
And I've seen Germany and UK. And I've seen USA.
It's nothing comparable.

USA is the Greatest country on Planet Earth.
(without putting any nationalism into it)

It's one thing to disagree with HDI rankings but another thing to say the USA is the only liveable country on earth. LOL.
Switzerland is better in all respects, including freedom to own guns and democracy.

 

[milenss]

It's one thing to disagree with HDI rankings but another thing to say the USA is the only liveable country on earth. LOL.
Switzerland is better in all respects, including freedom to own guns and democracy.

HDI can be seen with the eyes. It's also pretty subjective. But fook it... You cannot have a country with almost no scyscrappers taller than 200m and pretend to have a higher HDI than a country that had them plenty, taller, 50 years ago.
Infrastructure in the States (as degraded as can be) is still better, even far better than in Germany.
Hell... I can even compare some German roads to East European ones.
Switzerland is a very small country.
There can't be comparision with such enourmous size disparity.
You can compare the USA to other large countries. But actually not... since NO other country with remotely same size is comparable to the States.
USA is much better.

 

[Damien Karras]

I haven't traveled to 3 countries. They are a lot more. Not to mention that I was not there as a traveler, but I've actually lived there for a prolonged period of time.
But you must know better where I've been and what I've seen.
Nowadays everyone knows everything about your pesonal life.
Even unknown strangers on the Internet.

you're also trying to leverage your personal experiences as evidence to your claim yet you won't disclose any details for reference purposes which, if pertinent, would help you with stating your case.

Unfortunately you're just piloting a vacuum of a thread

 

[3DayFunk]

HDI can be seen with the eyes. It's also pretty subjective. But fook it... You cannot have a country with almost no scyscrappers taller than 200m and pretend to have a higher HDI than a country that had them plenty, taller, 50 years ago.
Infrastructure in the States (as degraded as can be) is still better, even far better than in Germany.
Hell... I can even compare some German roads to East European ones.
Switzerland is a very small country.
There can't be comparision with such enourmous size disparity.
You can compare the USA to other large countries. But actually not... since NO other country with remotely same size is comparable to the States.
USA is much better.

Australia is the same size and ranks in the top 5 livable countries

 

[Fawlty]

USA remains the only liveable country in the whole dam World.

Damn, son. You need to travel.

 

[john2054]

Londonistan is a pretty good example. Though the brits have always been pants-shitters

Please have some respect. London is a great city, the capital of great Britain. A great country.

 

[BarryDillon]

you're also trying to leverage your personal experiences as evidence to your claim yet you won't disclose any details for reference purposes which, if pertinent, would help you with stating your case.

Unfortunately you're just piloting a vacuum of a thread

 

[Ice That Jaw]

Sorry bud, but the indoctrinated one is you.
Those democrats / liberals you complain about, are the only reason you have shit like social security, access to healthcare, labor unions etc. Sorry that they don't share your fear of minorities.

Leave it up to conservatives you'll regress several centuries... Won't have to fear those minorities though, until of course the GOP needs to exploit some cheap labor, for which they will of course open the flood gates, then blame it on the liberals again.

The liberals are precisely the reason why your precious developed world is a DEVELOPED WORLD

Shaddup. The dems don't get all the credit for western society. They also don't take full blame for dragging us into war after war from WW1 to Vietnam.

 

[IDL]

I assume the TS is referring to the ideological subversion programs that are currently in play, but it isn't clear really.

There is an effort to break down the nation-state and demoralize the populations (this making breaking down the nation states easier), with the purpose of establishing a more international rule by the few.

It is a form of conquest.

 

[Shoemaker]

Maybe not stupid but I don't think you can pass a captcha.

True story: I entered the wrong username into a login prompt today and it kept telling me that reCaptcha was flagging me as bot. I waited, but Harrison Ford never came.