The Definitive: Top 5 Heavyweights of All-Time.

[Ralph Wiggum]

Fedor
Cain
Big Nog
DC
Stipe

That's the way I see them. Your analytics can't capture the way Fedor and Cain ran through opponents. They were 2 absolute terminators when at their peak.

 

[Kvolcom]

stepe
Fedor
DC
Werdum
Big Nog

 

[Reffson]

uhm, 2004-05 Mirko was a much better striker than JDS.

JDS obv can hit hard and KO anyone, but, Mirko was a much better striker at his peak than JDS has ever been. It's not even remotely close.

But, another shit post from the guy who thinks STIPE FUCKING MIOCIC is the best HW of all time or that Francis Ngannou would beat all of the Pride HW division looool.

Imagine being this stupid.

I love Stipe but he barely makes my top 5. Fedor is One, Nog is Two, Cop is Three. Werdum FOUR. Nog beat Werdum in their primes. Fedor was on the downside when Werdum beat him, still a great win. Werdum was fat and lazy when he got tagged by Dos Santos. That's why he got cut. After that humiliation, he got in serious shape then earned his place. If Stipe keeps winning he might make the top 5. Destroying DC quickly would help.

 

[NoBiasJustMMA]

I love Stipe but he barely makes my top 5. Fedor is One, Nog is Two, Cop is Three. Werdum FOUR. Nog beat Werdum in their primes. Fedor was on the downside when Werdum beat him, still a great win. Werdum was fat and lazy when he got tagged by Dos Santos. That's why he got cut. After that humiliation, he got in serious shape then earned his place. If Stipe keeps winning he might make the top 5. Destroying DC quickly would help.

IMO you're putting Cro Cop too high, I think he's in the 5-8 range behind Fedor, Big Nog, Werdum and Stipe. Werdum wasn't in his prime when he fought Big Nog the first time but they were both closer to their primes than the second time when Big Nog was years passed his and Werdum was in his prime.

 

[jenlans]

Ts messed up terribly on Werdum. Bigfoot, Russow, and Aleks were ranked when he beat them. Both times Brown was ranked, one was left off. So that’s at least 4 more for Werdum.

 

[Bend NvR Break]

Nice work TS.

Also, WAR JDS! I know he's got at least one title run left in him.

No he doesn't.

 

[Jew Jif Shoes]

No he doesn't.

He totally does.

WAR JDS

 

[Pakman]

Never said that, although it’s certainly possible. He’s a bad match up for them all.

Stipe is obviously the GOAT too.

And if it wasn’t even remotely close, cro cop wouldn’t have gotten owned by him even at his age. He wasn’t even competitive

francis hits hard and is big, that doesn’t make him a bad match up esp considering there have been several with much better grappling chops than Stipe.

and lol at Stipe as goat. Like I said, imagine being this stupid.

 

[Final Say]

francis hits hard and is big, that doesn’t make him a bad match up esp considering there have been several with much better grappling chops than Stipe.

and lol at Stipe as goat. Like I said, imagine being this stupid.

Stipe won that fight with his striking as well as his wrestling. Wrestling itself would not be enough, and stipe is a better wrestler than most of the guys in that division. Nog and fedor would likely be crushed before the fight ever saw the mat

Many people see stipe as goat. Get with the times. No one has done what he has with his resume of wins. That simple.

 

[Defeat Unknown]

Nice list.

For me, DC isn't even in consideration.

And Cain spent too much of his prime out of the sport with injuries. Shame what happened to him. He was on course to become one of the greatest.

 

[Pakman]

Stipe won that fight with his striking as well as his wrestling. Wrestling itself would not be enough, and stipe is a better wrestler than most of the guys in that division. Nog and fedor would likely be crushed before the fight ever saw the mat

Many people see stipe as goat. Get with the times. No one has done what he has with his resume of wins. That simple.

Lol again, imagine being this stupid

 

[Final Say]

Lol again, imagine being this stupid

You don’t know much about the sport, I’ve known that awhile now, might as well stop quoting my posts as I don’t respect your takes anyway

 

[Pakman]

You don’t know much about the sport, I’ve known that awhile now, might as well stop quoting my posts as I don’t respect your takes anyway

says the moron who was literally running around the forums in every thread talking about how Stipe is the GOAT HW of all time because he beat FRANCIS NGANNOU (which you did plenty of)

you keep yapping about how fighters from previous generation weren't as good as the fighters from today....which is laughable when discussing HW's because any and everyone with ANY knowledge of the sport can tell you that the HW's from the past, as a whole, was a much better group of fighters that is currently in the HW division.

Again, imagine being this stupid but continuing to post shit like this on a public forum to let others know how stupid you actually are.

 

[Reffson]

IMO you're putting Cro Cop too high, I think he's in the 5-8 range behind Fedor, Big Nog, Werdum and Stipe. Werdum wasn't in his prime when he fought Big Nog the first time but they were both closer to their primes than the second time when Big Nog was years passed his and Werdum was in his prime.

Werdum was 28-29 years old when he lost to Big Nog. He wasn't some rookie.

 

[Dionysian]

Beautiful job objectively quantifying everything
Thanks a lot for the effort man

 

[acannxr]

Bigfoot

Ranked #22 at the time.

Russow

Ranked #20 at the time.

Aleks

Ranked #12 at the time.

Both times Brown was ranked, one was left off.

Apparently you have literacy problems, because Browne is listed twice under Werdum's resume in the OP.

Ts messed up terribly on Werdum.

You messed up terribly on replying.

No one has done what he has with his resume of wins.

I put Miocic on the list in spite of the fact that most of his opponents were past their primes and had accumulated win streaks off even weaker competition.

 

[Final Say]

Ranked #22 at the time.


Ranked #20 at the time.


Ranked #12 at the time.


Apparently you have literacy problems, because Browne is listed twice under Werdum's resume in the OP.


You messed up terribly on replying.


I put Miocic on the list in spite of the fact that most of his opponents were past their primes and had accumulated win streaks off even weaker competition.

His wins are way better than fedor’s who you put at #1

you say they were past their primes, but they’re better names and there’s a lot more of them

stipe also has more top five wins On top of the fact that the name power and strength of schedule is much better than 90% of the 13 top ten wins fedor has

im not going to tell you you’re wrong for having a different opinion, I’m just saying opinions differ

 

[acannxr]

His wins are way better than fedor’s who you put at #1

you say they were past their primes, but they’re better names and there’s a lot more of them

That's all subjective.

stipe also has more top five wins

Irrelevant when you take into consideration the strength of the division as a whole today compared to Fedor's reign; Hunt and Arlovski were both ranked in the top ten when they lost to both Fedor and Miocic, despite there being a 7-9 year gap. The lack of turnover in the Heavyweight division showcases how weak it had become by the time Miocic won the title.

On top of the fact that the name power

Name power is completely irrelevant.

and strength of schedule

Miocic has fought every 198.5 days since he won the title.
Fedor fought every 126.6 days from the time he won the Pride title to the time he lost against Werdum.

is much better than 90% of the 13 top ten wins fedor has

Again, that's subjective.

 

[Final Say]

That's all subjective.


Irrelevant when you take into consideration the strength of the division as a whole today compared to Fedor's reign; Hunt and Arlovski were both ranked in the top ten when they lost to both Fedor and Miocic, despite there being a 7-9 year gap. The lack of turnover in the Heavyweight division showcases how weak it had become by the time Miocic won the title.


Name power is completely irrelevant.


Miocic has fought every 198.5 days since he won the title.
Fedor fought every 126.6 days from the time he won the Pride title to the time he lost against Werdum.


Again, that's subjective.

Everything about your post is subjective because the rankings are subjective. So I’m not sure why you’re so stuck on the subjectivity of my opinion when that’s all your thread is based on. Stipe has the better wins

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

Fedor
Stipe
Big Nog
Cain
Werdum