On this desperate and petty shit? Yeah. Let's say it was true. What's the negative aspect to it? Black guys being cast as nothing but gangsters and pimps, seems a lot more problematic, than being cast as prominent positive characters in dramas and action movies. What is the beef, exactly?
It’s the portrayal of those characters in the movie. Nick Fury from the comics is different than in the movie. He has his own goals and agenda. He is his own character. In the movie he is an immortal magical negro that shows up and leaves.
He's his "own character" in the movies too. Nothing about his character would be changed, if he was white...or Asian, or Latino.
But that's who the character is. What specifically makes the race of the character matter? What specific "blackness" of the character are you looking for here, that doesn't apply to his general characteristics? What would be different if he was a different race? Nothing.
The issue is that they don’t usually use other races for this trope. Especially when casting Morgan Freeman. He has been doing this role for a while.
do you honestly think that the critical & textual analysis of black images in media starts & stops at the magical negro trope? just because something exists doesn't mean it is the only, or the most common, phenomenon being put under a microscope in the respective fields of thought. if anything, the magical negro trope is rarely the primary focus of critial studies on black representation in media, but is no less worthy of consideration & discussion.
Yeah, he's a big name actor who gets big roles. His crime is being famous and cast as a wise man from time to time? And that's...bad? Maybe cast Anthony Hopkins in all of those roles instead, because he's a mild mannered "wise man" type as well?
I totally understand the concept. You're failing at justifying its existence.
It is the depiction of the character. The trope goes like the black character is usually held back by some sort of constraint. It could be ugly, poor, color of their skin or disability. They are held back in society even though they possess great wisdom or is magical. The main character shows up and finds value in this broken person. They then selflessly devoted their life to them.
No. In fact, I already said that casting them as pimps and gangsters is way more problematic. This is just complaining for the sake of complaining.
Fox was held back. He was a genius but he was demoted to a dead end science division. Bruce had to meet him to get him to show him all these gadgets. He pretty much breaks the law and all protocols for his job for Bruce Wayne within few minutes of meeting him. He even continues after he gets fired.
i feel like you've completely lost the plot for the sake of confrontation at this point. if you could put aside your determination to trivialize & disregard the trope, you would find that critical studies & other writings that discuss/analyze the trope are more interested in cultivating a conversation of ideas by examining & recontextualizing the positive & negative traits/characterizations that define the characters who fall under the magical negro distinction. you're just assuming that the meer existence of the trope = militant condemnation of the qualifying characters.
It's not about the character being supernatural. It's more like this character does amazing and sometimes supernatural things that improve the lives of the MC but they can't do anything for themselves. These characters don't have an interior life or goals. Like I said it doesn't really really have to strictly apply but those characters follow a similar framework. It's a spectrum and they don't have to be a stereotypical coon. We don't really get the reverse with a black lead.
The word for them is cuck
Alex I'll take Whataboutism for 500.
People get the nick fury thing wrong so often. Fury in the movies isn't based on normal continuity marvel universe Nick Fury. He's based on ultimates nick fury. In fact the entire lineup is taken from the ultimate avengers continuity. Tony Stark being a quippy ladies man is not the standard universe iron man either.
