You´re so clueless that it´s laughable.
200 % of what you said is pure complete BS.
"-Yes on the former. But no on the latter. Saku could actually fight. Takada was a joke. Who are you gonna be able to market via an actual combat sport format vs a pro wrestling format over time? Especially carrying the banner of the Takada Dojo?"
> laughable. You didnt understand the Pride dynamic at the very beginning of it. Takada was the main man, not SAKU.
Puttin´a new rule about knees on a downed opponent is equal to suiciding SAKU, would be like banning the stand-up rule in the UFC, for strikers like Spider or Mcnugg...
Even Aerobic Trainer acknowledged that SAKU was suicided and not protected at all.
"I bet you think Takada vs Otsuka was a real fight too. LOL"
> indeed LOL... Like u discovered something really incredible. Congrats.
"-Not really. If someone shot on him as the superior wrestler, THEY could have eaten the knees. It goes both ways. Why was Hendo elated at the rule change. Nice logic, smartie."
Hendo quickly understood what a clueless bum like ya failed to grasp... SAKU`s game was based on taking high risks on the ground, potentially risking losing dominant positions that could lead to fragile defensive postures.
Ya obviously didnt watch his fights back then, but his go-to-moves were mainly armbars, and kneebars/leglocks too...
Got it?
SAKU was always reluctant to throw punches/knees while in the guard.
He had a real aversion to it, as if it were some unworthy thing to do.
He was always interested in doing his usual thing in the guard, showing no interest in setting his submission attempts with strikes. So this new rule could hardly favour him...
"Do you know how popular Royce was on the MMA scene back then??? Like, at all? Or did Eric Clapton, Nicholas Cage before he was a living meme etc show up for a Japanese guy pumped up on Japanese television from the Takada Dojo? Use your brain man."
> Hey, poor thing, this has nuthin to do with Hoyce, but the fact that as a Jap Org, in the Jap market, they ONCE AGAIN, fooked SAKU, and made him fight 90mns in a Tournament while others had normal duration, and SAKU had to fight one more fight after this one. They could have put this Hoyce fight on a different night, not during the Tournament with multiple fights per night.
This is a Hoyce interview from these days:
Hoyce: "If he had not met me in the first match, he would have become the champion in the tournament."
And a bum like ya keeps saying Pride made everything possible to favour him?
"He did. He said they offered him $15k to tap to Saku on top of what they paid him to show. It was obvious he wasn't having it and tried to win the fight. If you look hard enough, you'll find this to be true."
"They"... yeah... "They" can be ANYONE, you´re using "they" as if you had the proof that Page spoke to a Pride representative... Page already talked a lot and would have spit the whole truth by now, he´s in the US and has no reason to shut up.
"t was obvious he wasn't having it": hey, for real, instead of spittin´this kind of BS, go watch the ol´school fights, see how much of a rookie Page was back then., watch his early fights, watch him vs Marvin and others, watch how sometimes he would become clueless on the ground and only go for flashy moves like slams.
"Pretty sure that for Page or Randle, every Jap looked the same..."
-Okay, well that's assuming and racist."
> How can u prove that [if] a Jap who talked to Page or Randle, he was a yakuza or a Pride Representative, or a gambler? How can they/you distinguish them, poor thing?
"-NEVER MENTIONED RANDLEMAN! WHERE IS YOUR READING COMPREHENSION????
I'M A SAKU FAN. A fan. That fight was legit. Legit as all hell. No one mentioned Randleman in this thread before you, much less in the context of a work or a half worked fight"
The Randleman fight was the worst on paper, that´s why Im quoting it, he shouldnt have won this fight, his manager shouldnt have signed, worst matchup than the Fedor fight that he rejected.
You´re not a SAKU fan, you´re clueless noob who didnt watch the fights back then and now come here spittin´some rumours that are not even yours, you´re only REPEATIN´them like a parrot.
Oh,btw, Crocop was so timid that he didnt " kick his head off."... you´re right.... He only broke SAKU`s orbital.
""-Coulda done alot worse. Just because someone was paid not to kill someone doesn't mean the other guy knows about
it. And he still didn't eat sh!t like he could have. ""
>Everybody here will understand what kind of weirdo u are.
As a whole, you´re basing your [weak] MMA knowledge on the Takada Pride sequences, like you discovered something new... Congrats again.
"Or do you not forget Coleman talking about how if he gave Takada a win they GUARANTEED him an extra fight, and that he "needed to feed his family" etc."
>They promised a spot in the tournament, not a mere extra fight.
Coleman or Crocop taking or not the money has nuthin´to do with their financial situations...What a simplistic view, corruption is beyond simplistic human psychology. NO fighter has ever had enough money, even them boxers.
"-Vitor Belfort* and if you wanted to be cheesy and flex old school nuts you'da called him Victor Gracie."
Carlson said it´s Vitor Gracie, so stfu..lmao
"Saku took him down... What did he do with it? Moreover, what did CroCop let him do with it before popping back up to little or no consequence?"
>obviously, would have been so easy to sell a SAKU submission when he indeed took him down, much more than a Takada sub over Coleman.
Finally, bums like ya will never be satisfied. They will claim and repeat stupidities like:
- The Kimo fight was fixed
- The Vitor Gracie fight was fixed
- The Crocop fight was fixed
- The Randleman fight was fixed
- The Page fight was fixed
- The Ronin fight was fixed
- The Tiger fight was fixed
heck, Im pretty sure one day I´ ll see a "the Allan Goes fight was fixed".
On a sidenote, if Pride really wanted to protect & pad SAKU´s career,
they didnt have to lose money & bribe nobody.
As a matter of fact, SAKU being a natural WW [started his career as a FW
and was pressured by his former promotor to bulk up],
they could have made him cut weight [a lil, since he historically
fought btw 178 & 183 lbs], and dominate the lighter weight classes
much b4 Gomi, who became a star.
That would have made perfect sense since the heavier classes
already had stars like Takada, Yoshida, Ogawa.
So do us a favour, when you dont know shit:
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