Teddy Atlas: Floyd didn't carry Conor

[Melas Chasma]

What do you think, should I believe Shertards/Conor haters over Teddy?

 

[Reign009]

I don't think he did either.

People just hate Conor. Anything to make him look worse.

 

[EVIL WAR GOD]

Did Floyd even throw a punch in the first two rounds?

 

[theTKDguy]

He played it extremely safe, it wasn't even necesary.

I do think he bet on 10rd tko.

 

[Melas Chasma]

Did Floyd even throw a punch in the first two rounds?

Yes.

 

[wisdom blows]

Did Floyd even throw a punch in the first two rounds?

Yes.

Floyd fought like Floyd always fights. Safe, defensive, counter punching. Conor is much bigger and longer, and likely much better than Floyd realized. After Conor started to gas Floyd took over, but that doesn’t negate some of the clean shots Conor landed in the first few rounds. Very few fighters have landed as clean on Floyd as Conor did, even if it seemed to have little effect. Watching him slip and rip Mayweather in rd. 1 was surreal.

 

[EVIL WAR GOD]

Yes.

Floyd fought like Floyd always fights. Safe, defensive, counter punching. Conor is much bigger and longer, and likely much better than Floyd realized. After Conor started to gas Floyd took over, but that doesn’t negate some of the clean shots Conor landed in the first few rounds. Very few fighters have landed as clean on Floyd as Conor did, even if it seemed to have little effect. Watching him slip and rip Mayweather in rd. 1 was surreal.

Makes sense. I’m still a casual when it comes to boxing. Thanks for the explanation.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

First 3 rounds Floyd did not try. He's putting on a show, giving people what they paid for, and letting Conor burn his gas. After that he was serious. Round 10 he definitely came in to end it.

 

[SuperNerd]

It's in the middle. Conor won rounds.

It's Floyd's style, he's a counter fighter, he's older, smaller, and extremely confident Conor would fade, and made it happen.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

Yes.

Floyd fought like Floyd always fights. Safe, defensive, counter punching. Conor is much bigger and longer, and likely much better than Floyd realized. After Conor started to gas Floyd took over, but that doesn’t negate some of the clean shots Conor landed in the first few rounds. Very few fighters have landed as clean on Floyd as Conor did, even if it seemed to have little effect. Watching him slip and rip Mayweather in rd. 1 was surreal.

Rounds 1-3 were in no way typical of Floyd. He's a relatively low output fighter but never in his career has he ever attempted less than 10 punches in a round. He came in knowing that he wouldn't fight back into round 4. You hear him confirming not in the corner after round 3.

Conor did better than he had any right to tho.

 

[Krixes]

Floyd played it safe early on, he didn't know what to expect. Floyd put it on him in later rounds.

 

[SeattleFightFan]

To be fair, he was saying the exact same thing 3 years ago...

 

[jjresq]

Floyd didnt even train for the fight. He knew Connor was no threat thats why he et him last that long

 

[91 seconds]

Floyd was having fun in there. He made his friends a lot of money.

 

[Klippy]

 

[KGmma]

Floyd played one on the most ancient battle tactics there is: The Matador Versus The Bull.

And Conor, an experienced fighter himself fell for it.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

His reasons were:
1. Floyd was old and had been inactive prior to the fight, so that had to have its effects.
2. Floyd has always been a patient counterpuncher.
3. Conor fought on the outside and used his length.


Atlas had McGregor winning the fight in the early going but thought it was obvious that he was winning the battle while losing the war. At a certain point Floyd changed up his style to something he doesn't usually do and went after McGregor and ended the fight. He's not saying Floyd was in real danger of losing so much as that he doesn't think Floyd purposely lost rounds or slowed the fight down at all to carry McGregor.

Atlas never calls McGregor a good fighter. He carefully dances around it, but he does say McGregor's strategy in the fight was smart and that his promoting was brilliant. He does emphasize that MMA fighters will never look good under boxing rules because they aren't as dangerous without all the weapons they normally use.

Finally, he notes that Pacquiao and McGregor have the same manager, so he thinks the fight will get made. Pacquiao is also older, etc, but he says he thinks Pac will end him earlier, because his style is more aggressive.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Show me another fight where floyd walked forward with a high guard letting his opponent tee off.

Show me another fight where floyd was laughing and mugging for the camera between rounds.

I'll wait . . . No I won't because it doesn't exist.

Floyd knew what he had in front of him and fought accordingly - put on a show, have fun then when he got sick of it turn up the tempo and stop the guy with no actual boxing experience except fairytale stories told by him.

 

[BluntForceTrama]

I find that people who typically disagree with Atlas on the topic of boxing are shitheads normally

 

[SeattleFightFan]

Ultimately this is a semantics discussion.

He doesn't think Floyd 'carried' him. And he gave Conor 2 or 3 early rounds.

He also didn't think Conor had even a 1% chance of ever winning.

I'm quite sure most everyone thinks they know what "carried" means, and I'm equally sure that if put to the test, most people would end up having different definitions.