Tapology Counting non-MMA fights as a Fighter's 'Form'?!

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Tapology has always been a great database to use for UFC research, alongside the Sherdog database.

But has anyone else noticed these guys have started counting BJJ exhibitions and similar as part of a fighter's form?!

It was one thing to include any old junk fight on a fighter's record, and that can be useful, but look at this rubbish:

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Mike Malott ain't beating Trevin Giles, LMAO, and even the 'L' on his five fight form is a BJJ loss to Vince Barbosa from 2019 (before his DWCS debut!).

This is a really annoying development, IMO, and given how many exhibition/other sport contests fighters will have (especially prior to entering the UFC), I can't see how this is useful.

It's kinda okay to see on a fighter's record what they've been practicing, but these fights are just that: practice.

Anyone else noticed this bullshit?
 
Tapology has been doing this for a long time. It contains a lot of interesting information that you wouldn't otherwise find.

Edit: I missed the OP's point originally. The point isn't that these are just showing up in the record (which is old), but in the last 5 fights field (which is new).
 
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JayPettryMMA said:
That's an unforced error for Tap, including non-MMA fights in recent fight history.
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I just don't get why they're doing that.

It can be absolutely nothing but misleading.

Thread posted here to (hopefully) help Sherbros avoid some bullshit at-first-glance nonsense.
 
EndlessCritic said:
Tapology has been doing this for a long time. It contains a lot of interesting information that you wouldn't otherwise find.
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Not in the form section they haven't.

If that wasn't brought in this week, it was brought in extremely recently.
 
Siver! said:
Tapology has always been a great database to use for UFC research, alongside the Sherdog database.

But has anyone else noticed these guys have started counting BJJ exhibitions and similar as part of a fighter's form?!

It was one thing to include any old junk fight on a fighter's record, and that can be useful, but look at this rubbish:

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Mike Malott ain't beating Trevin Giles, LMAO, and even the 'L' on his five fight form is a BJJ loss to Vince Barbosa from 2019 (before his DWCS debut!).

This is a really annoying development, IMO, and given how many exhibition/other sport contests fighters will have (especially prior to entering the UFC), I can't see how this is useful.

It's kinda okay to see on a fighter's record what they've been practicing, but these fights are just that: practice.

Anyone else noticed this bullshit?
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Ya strange...

They should just make another section and put combat experience or something as the header ..then join everything..

But no grappling match should affect your MMA record
 
I like how they include everything but I thought they don't usually include non MMA fights in a fighters record? They just show results and stipulate the rules from what I've seen but yeah they're going to have to fix this
 
Paolo Delutis said:
Ya strange...

They should just make another section and put combat experience or something as the header ..then join everything..

But no grappling match should affect your MMA record
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Yeah, exactly.

If their 'record' on Tapology is 0-0 but they've fought a ton of 'other' stuff, then it's still an MMA site, and that's the primary focus.

Since it makes zero sense to amalgamate all disciplines into a one-size-fits-all record, I also don't want to see it in key criteria like 'recent fights' - especially when I'm looking at an MMA event.
 
I love Tapology for all the hard work they have done as far as how in depth it is but it's love hate love. I was #1 in Pick % (minimum 30k picks) before I stopped making picks other than UFC and any big events when boxing picks started for a few reasons. Boxing is just so predictable, I just didn't feel like making a thousand picks a week lol and having that tarnishes everything we been doing, but I never complained because I simply didn't care enough too. So if you have 100k picks and someone just starts and boxing is a big part their % will be much easier to attain. I have well over 30% iirc of my picks being amateur picks because I would do all the picks for the fun weekly thing, I didn't/couldn't cherry pick, my % was overly legit picking 0-0 ammy fights constantly.

My problem with them (owners) was one of their fight editors was changing his picks after the fact to win most of the time for the week long events where you pick literally every fight. Tapology picks lock when the event starts, so when an event would lock I would screen shot this persons picks, and I didn't need to timestamp them because I could only see them after the event started because you can't view others picks until after that. Then a lot of his picks would change which is technically impossible as the events are supposed to be locked and I actually did this for about 2 or 3 months, collecting an insane amount of instances (around a 1,000) of this happening. He would manipulate a little here and there to get first in events etc.

So I brought this to the owners and they just brushed it off, like oh no, that's not happening even with a giant amount of evidence. I'm not going to name names but any tapology people here know he's the top picker ever lol and the horrible thing is he's won cash from events basically stealing from others because he cheated/cheats so much. I won $500 from a UFC season and i'm not going to talk about that on here, but lets just say it was almost not worth it. Long story long, i'm not a fan of the owners, how they handle themselves and their cheating people.
 
I cross reference Sherdog and Tapology. One usually picks up what the other doesn't or clarifies something. Tap is usually good about labeling those matches as being from another sport tho.
 
Interesting. I halfway-noticed this when looking at a fighter who didn't have enough pro MMA fights to have a "past five fights" record. I saw on the Picks page that Tap had thrown his win from BJJ or whatever it is into the mix. I assumed, at the time, that it did it solely because he didn't have enough fights otherwise. A bit misleading, perhaps, but understandable. I didn't really give it much thought beyond that.

The fact that they're replacing actual MMA fights for experienced fighters with contests from other combat sports is whack, though. I was pretty perturbed with the recent Tapology overhaul process, honestly.

GreatSaintGuillotine said:
I cross reference Sherdog and Tapology. One usually picks up what the other doesn't or clarifies something. Tap is usually good about labeling those matches as being from another sport tho.
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Same. Tapology often lacks information about fights early in a competitor's career regarding win/loss method and such. I always head to Sherdog for that kind of info. I like Tapology's interface and that it includes other combat sports, though.
 
Siver! said:
Tapology has always been a great database to use for UFC research, alongside the Sherdog database.

But has anyone else noticed these guys have started counting BJJ exhibitions and similar as part of a fighter's form?!

It was one thing to include any old junk fight on a fighter's record, and that can be useful, but look at this rubbish:

View attachment 970432

Mike Malott ain't beating Trevin Giles, LMAO, and even the 'L' on his five fight form is a BJJ loss to Vince Barbosa from 2019 (before his DWCS debut!).

This is a really annoying development, IMO, and given how many exhibition/other sport contests fighters will have (especially prior to entering the UFC), I can't see how this is useful.

It's kinda okay to see on a fighter's record what they've been practicing, but these fights are just that: practice.

Anyone else noticed this bullshit?
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Yeah, I've noticed, and I hate it.
 
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