Tamper Tantrum (Mueller Thread v. 17)

[Darkballs]

That is not the "gist of Nunes's argument."

The gist of Nunes's argument is:
1) the Steele dossier formed an "essential part" of the FISC application to surveil Carter Page

And how would Nunes have known that when he never read the warrant application?

 

[waiguoren]

The argument still stands that including only the contents of the Steele dossier in the warrant application would be a monumentally stupid move not made by anyone other than the greenest of attorneys.

Who has alleged that the warrant application "included only the contents of the Steele dossier"?

Well that certainly seems to be the gist of Nunes's argument.

That is not the "gist of Nunes's argument."

The gist of Nunes's argument is:
1) the Steele dossier formed an "essential part" of the FISC application to surveil Carter Page
2) the FBI/DOJ acted improperly by failing to disclose on the FISC warrant application that Hillary Clinton and the DNC funded the Steele dossier

As evidence for 1), Nunes cites Andrew McCabe's still-classified testimony before the House Intelligence Committee:

Furthermore, Deputy Director McCabe testified before the Committee in December 2017 that no surveillance warrant would have been sought from the FISC without the Steele dossier information.

For reference, Nunes's full memo is here.

And how would Nunes have known that when he never read the warrant application?

He "would have known that" (again, I am neutral on the matter) if House Intelligence Committee member and former federal prosecutor Trey Gowdy faithfully and thoroughly represented the contents of the warrant application to Nunes.

 

[Darkballs]

He "would have known that" (again, I am neutral on the matter) if House Intelligence Committee member and former federal prosecutor Trey Gowdy faithfully and thoroughly represented the contents of the warrant application to Nunes.

Sure, but I'd expect Nunes to be more informed, or at the very least have read the warrant application before he made his statements.

But I agree with you, I'm all for more disclosure in regards to that warrant application. I would like to see it released to the public, with a minimal amount of redactions (if any). That would put this whole issue to rest.

 

[waiguoren]

I'd expect Nunes to be more informed, or at the very least have read the warrant application before he made his statements.

That was not possible.

I'm sure Nunes wanted to read the application as well, but the House Intelligence Committee and the Justice Department worked out a deal whereby only one member of the Committee would be authorized to read the warrant application. That one person ended up being Congressman Trey Gowdy.

According to this Nunes interview, Nunes wanted Gowdy to be the one to view the application because of Gowdy's experience as a federal prosecutor and as Chairman of the House Oversight Committee.

I'm all for more disclosure in regards to that warrant application. I would like to see it released to the public, with a minimal amount of redactions (if any). That would put this whole issue to rest.

That's my view as well, and we are moving in that direction. The Justice Department recently agreed to allow all members of the House Intelligence Committee to review the warrant application.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

The pee tape is real IMHO.

Is it bad that I hope it is real and that it goes viral?

 

[Quequeg]

All this nitpicking of meaningless aspects of the investigation is an obvious attempt to discredit the investigation so the findings can be ignored, propaganda 101.

 

[Quequeg]

Is it bad that I hope it is real and that it goes viral?

The allegation was Trump had hookers pee on a bed that Obama slept on, not that they peed on Trump, just wanted to clear that up.

 

[vengeful]

That was not possible.

I'm sure Nunes wanted to read the application as well, but the House Intelligence Committee and the Justice Department worked out a deal whereby only one member of the Committee would be authorized to read the warrant application. That one person ended up being Congressman Trey Gowdy.

According to this Nunes interview, Nunes wanted Gowdy to be the one to view the application because of Gowdy's experience as a federal prosecutor and as Chairman of the House Oversight Committee.



That's my view as well, and we are moving in that direction. The Justice Department recently agreed to allow all members of the House Intelligence Committee to review the warrant application.

Nah, Nunes still wouldn't have read it, he has his staff do the reading he's supposed to be doing then summarize the contents for him.

 

[PolishHeadlock]

Lol wtf

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Lol wtf

Fucking incredible. I see he's still aiming for that Nobel, just saving a different oppressed population: the beautiful (and some ugly) people with crushed dreams.

 

[Quequeg]

Lol wtf

Back to victim mode, for poor Trumpy

 

[Andy Capp]

I want URINE TROUBLE

Ditto,
Thread title should be Urine So Much Trouble.

 

[Andy Capp]

Another day another trump lie

That awful, corrupt, broken FBI being so shitty as to warn Trump ahead of time not to get involved in what they were going to try to frame him with being involved in. Fuckers.

 

[Deleted member 429137]

Rubio points out that the FBI was not targeting the Trump campaign, but individuals in his campaign with suspicious ties to Russia.

http://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-...dividuals-with-suspicious-histories-not-trump

Giuliani admits that Spygate is a PR tactic against Mueller.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/may/27/rudy-giuliani-spygate-robert-mueller-donald-trump

 

[Deleted member 429137]

And here's a very enjoyable opinion piece:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...0243?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

The President wants you to call the FBI's Russian counterintelligence program Spygate, but rational people have declined to indulge him. Stupidgate is instead just a ludicrous new chapter in the long chronicle of Trump dumbassery.

...

For the FBI actions Trump calls Spygate to be a real concern, it would require malice. Instead, we've seen justification after justification for a robust counterintelligence response to Russian malfeasance. Drawn to the Trump campaign like flies to the biggest manure pile in the universe, the FBI wasn't after him, but rather — quite properly — the Russians who sought to (and may have succeeded) in subverting American democracy and corrupting our elections.

...

It couldn't have been that an FBI counterintelligence investigation against the Russians kept finding lead after lead headed straight back to Trump associates, family members, friends, business partners and his senior campaign officials, could it? It couldn't have been because Trump advisers were boasting they had the Russian goods on Hillary Clinton, that his sons were taking meetings in Trump Tower with platoons of Russians tied to Vladimir Putin, or that his attorney Michael Cohen was signing letters of intent to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, right? And there's no way it was the opinion of every American intelligence agency that the Russians were all in with a program of information warfare in support of Donald Trump. No way? Way.

 

[sickc0d3r]

That awful, corrupt, broken FBI being so shitty as to warn Trump ahead of time not to get involved in what they were going to try to frame him with being involved in. Fuckers.

Yeah, and they briefed them KNOWING they were a bunch of shady crooks that would lie anyway. Clear case of entrapment.

 

[Rational Poster]

Imagine being so stupid that you like Devin Nunes.

 

[Quequeg]

And here's a very enjoyable opinion piece:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/...0243?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true

I want one of Trumps defenders try to rebut this in a relevant, factual, logical manner.

 

[SBJJ]

I want one of Trumps defenders try to rebut this in a relevant, factual, logical manner.

It's an opinion piece

 

[OverCoronavirus Pressure]

Lol wtf

What's this nonsense??