Tamper Tantrum (Mueller Thread v. 17)

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I remember reading an (unpublished) case a while back about a prisoner who masterbauted so much he started bleeding. The prison has some degree of obligation to keep prisoners from hurting themselves, and there was a question of how much this qualified. Really fucking weird.
I know Lockdown probably plays up a bunch of shit they say but some of the things you see those guys do for entertainment and shit... like, Goddamn.
 
Witness intimidation is standard MO for the Trump Crime Family. They tried that with poor Stormy in front of her kid.
 
The thing for me is similar to 9/11 conspiracies. People claim Bush and Trump are dumbfucks and then act like they could plan this all out...

I think in both cases people believe they had a network of slimeballs around them and merely provided the avenue. I don't think Trump handles much of his own business or finances any more, so it provides lots of room for third parties to cause mischief, and he's not smart enough to notice.
 
The thing for me is similar to 9/11 conspiracies. People claim Bush and Trump are dumbfucks and then act like they could plan this all out...
Bush wasn't the lead, Cheney was.... 9/11 smelled to high heaven but I really think our intel was just poorly exected.

As for tRUmp the guy is a piece of shit and yes I thought he was a dumbass but this is how he did things in private sector. He's operating as POTUS as he did as a business con man

 
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo...-of-witness-tampering-ask-judge-to-detain-him
From June 5 2018
The government says Manafort made the outreach after being hit with a superseding indictment in February that included charges of failing to register as a foreign agent.

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After those charges were unveiled, the government says Manafort and a longtime associate — identified only as "Person A" — repeatedly contacted two witnesses to try to influence what they would tell investigators about the Ukraine lobbying work.

Prosecutors say Manafort reached out by phone and encrypted messaging apps to the witnesses, both of whom worked for a public relations firm involved in the lobbying effort.

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According to the text messages, which the witnesses provided to the government, Manafort wanted to get the individuals to say the Ukraine lobbying work was exclusively confined to Europe.

One of the witnesses told investigators that he "understood Manafort's outreach to be an effort to 'suborn perjury'" because he knew the former European politicians had lobbied in both Europe and the U.S.

String him up.
 
When I hear about people raping children, beating the shit out of their girlfriends in meth fueled rages and shit this seems so low tier but I'm also probably jaded cause of my job.
Not saying this the extent of the witness tampering in this case but what about the situations where people threaten to kill relatives of the witness if they don't testify the way they want or don't refuse to testify?


Even at its most mild form of "tampering" this has a broader implication in the fact it goes against our whole justice system. If you are allowed to control witnesses and their statements through bride or threat it pretty much wipes out a large chunk of our legal systems methodology of trail.
 
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So help me understand this. Up to this point he has been charged with tax evasion, and financial fraud.

Basically what they did to Al Capone when they couldn't prove anything in court.

What exactly is the accusation here on witness tampering?

I'm honestly curious. I have not been impressed with what the Trump admin folks have been charged with so far. This seems like perhaps the most serious accusation so far, that 90% of congress isnt also guilty of.

He sent encrypted text messages to a suspected GRU agent while under house arrest.

Seems cut and dry to me.
 
Its hilarious that Mantafort is painted as a President Trump guy in the first place. He has been a consistently involved with Presidential campaigns since Gerald Ford but it just goes to show how the lying media manipulates the lemmings.
 
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