what takedowns or throws from the clinch do you find most usefull without gi?
VanDamme said:Best throw I can muster is an uchimata if I can manage to get a whizzer on the right arm and control the opposite wrist.
The other one I try to look for is the sag throw. They're my favorites at the moment.
Bubble Boy said:Yup on the whizzer: I overhook the guys left arm, grab his right wrist, uchimata, osoto, or harai.
I'm pretty sure you're saying the exact same thing VanDamme.
What is the "sag throw?" Wrestling term?