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Oh lol, whoops. Yes, I prefer Inside trips a lot more than outside.Huh? Did you mean to say you prefer inside trips to outside trips, or was it the other way around?
Oh lol, whoops. Yes, I prefer Inside trips a lot more than outside.Huh? Did you mean to say you prefer inside trips to outside trips, or was it the other way around?
Weird thread to make.Anyone else feel like fewer different takedowns are being used?
Single Leg
Double Leg
Outside Trip Against the Cage
Even taking the back of standing opponents seems like old hat. People are so good at defending it now.
Am I missing something or is this really the core we are down to at the top?
Its more like the equivalent of saying striking is getting more boxing heavy with less kicks, knees, and elbows.Weird thread to make.
Firstly, there's tons of new funky takedowns being hit. Tyler Diamond hit an awesome ankle pick on Bryce Mitchell on Friday in what will go down as one of the best grappling fights of the year (that nobody watched.)
More importantly, you oversimplify things when you say something like "single leg". There are lots of different setups to single legs, and lots of different finishes. Running the pipe remains king, but we're also starting to see more variants becoming popular (ie: Tatiana Suarez is extremely good at the treetop finish, Michinori Tanaka has a very unique head outside single, Khabib is king at taking the back off of a single leg, etc.)
It's the equivalent of saying that the striking is really basic since it's mostly punches, kicks, knees, and elbows.
Meanwhile Israel Adesanya went for an imanari roll against Brad Tavares on Friday.Yes you can still find people hitting other moves, but you can still observe a definite trend in the approach to takedowns. I really think its just that most fighters are taking a more intelligent approach. Fighters rely on high percentage lower risk moves and fundamentals more than in the past.
I don't know if there's any correlation at all but I think EBI overtime rounds has made it to where the RNC and armbar games have become so fucking detailed. It seems like those 2 subs are a lot less automatic than before. The people finishing the RNC from the back and from the armbar position are using pretty refined and sometimes intricate gripping and grip-breaking sequences and people on defense are finding clever and creative ways of stopping those submissions.I have also noticed that fighters are a lot better at defending the RNC. Not an automatic submission anymore.
Heck I remember when people would tap as soon as someone got full mount on them
Or maybe it's because people are different, and therefore have different styles and answers that reflect their particular body type and background...
Yup and tony Ferguson throws rolling thunder kicks. Yet jabs are used more than ever. There are always outliers.Meanwhile Israel Adesanya went for an imanari roll against Brad Tavares on Friday.
MMA has this neat trick to make subs easier called punching your opponent in the face.I don't watch as much MMA anymore but in sport grappling unless you catch an armbar or RNC in transition then you've got some work cut out for you to finish those subs.
no but i would expect to see this happen in mmaDo you see this happen often in combat sambo?
no but i would expect to see this happen in mma
why would you expect it to happen in mma if doesnt happen much in combat sambo? combat sambo is basically mma with a gi...
Adding the gi would be a huge new layer to mma and since both parties will have the option to wear one or not, some fighters might neglect to train it altogether, resulting in a knowledge/skills gap.
Yeah, the gi was optional in Pride, but you saw a lot of people choosing not to wear it. The fact they could put sponsors on it probably increased how much it was worn.If you could optionally wear a gi in mma nobody would wear it. Wearing is a huge disadvantage. You can get tossed around with judo and berimboloed just for the benefit of looking cool.
In gi grappling you are both wearing each other's weapon minus ezekiel chokes. My ideal scenario would be fighting someone that is having to wear a gi while I don't have to.Adding the gi would be a huge new layer to mma and since both parties will have the option to wear one or not, some fighters might neglect to train it altogether, resulting in a knowledge/skills gap.
the prospect of extra sponsors on gis also adds a layer of complexity to preparation which could lead to interesting outcomes: "dayum, condom depot says they'll pay me $30K to put a giant patch on my gi..but my opponent is a seasoned Judo blackblelt.. time to step up my gi Judo!"Yeah, the gi was optional in Pride, but you saw a lot of people choosing not to wear it. The fact they could put sponsors on it probably increased how much it was worn.
right now, we got leg lock specialists. With gi, we can have some ezekiel specialists, no position is safe!In gi grappling you are both wearing each other's weapon minus ezekiel chokes. My ideal scenario would be fighting someone that is having to wear a gi while I don't have to.
You should have watched the event this past weekend.Anyone else feel like fewer different takedowns are being used?
Single Leg
Double Leg
Outside Trip Against the Cage
Even taking the back of standing opponents seems like old hat. People are so good at defending it now.
Am I missing something or is this really the core we are down to at the top?