T-rex was essentially a giant chicken

[PBAC]

There is no evidence of adult T-rexes having feathers. Skin imprints found show zero feathering. They found feathered raptors that were tiny compared to a T-rex and some enthusiastic idiots started feathering every species.
A feathered creature the size of T-rex in a warm climate would overheat rapidly and die. Most likely even the giant sloths of South America were bald, lol.
The only possible feathered tyrannosaurid was the species that lived in the arctic, I forget it's name.

It's not that clear cut and there is strong academic evidence for feathered dinosaurs. J park pushed the idea into mainstream and they have been trying to scramble themselves by alleging the dinos they depict are genetically modified i.e not real depictions. Hence why they're slanting the series toward this ''hybrid' dinosaur nonsense.

https://www.childrensmuseum.org/blog/why-did-dinosaurs-have-feathers
Since 1983, fossils of dinosaur feathers and feather impressions have been turning up, mostly in China. Over the past three decades, the idea of feathered dinosaurs has slowly crept out from academic research papers to mainstream articles and documentaries. Jurassic World will probably be the last big dinosaur movie made with representations of un-feathered dinosaurs.

 

[ssBaldy]

It's not that clear cut and there is strong academic evidence for feathered dinosaurs. J park pushed the idea into mainstream and they have been trying to scramble themselves by alleging the dinos they depict are genetically modified i.e not real depictions. Hence why they're slanting the series toward this ''hybrid' dinosaur nonsense.

https://www.childrensmuseum.org/blog/why-did-dinosaurs-have-feathers
Since 1983, fossils of dinosaur feathers and feather impressions have been turning up, mostly in China. Over the past three decades, the idea of feathered dinosaurs has slowly crept out from academic research papers to mainstream articles and documentaries. Jurassic World will probably be the last big dinosaur movie made with representations of un-feathered dinosaurs.

Look at the size of the feathered species. I am not telling there were no feathered dinos, there were, and we do have proofs, but the feathered ones were on the smaller side. The only big feathered one I can think of was deinoheirus and he was a weird one to say the least, living in very specific conditions.

 

[ssBaldy]

Also, google thermo-neutrality, it is a very interestng thing. Explains why some animals use thermo insulation (fat layers, fur, feathers) while others do not.

 

[LEWIS540]

Amazing how a couple of unemployed toilet-cleaners on a kung fu forum, can skim a wikipedia article or two, and be more knowledgeable about the subject than the entire palaeontology community.

 

[Seano]

This doesn't make me think differently of them. The meanest animal I ever met was a rooster named Sam we had when I was a kid. He was a vicious bastard.

 

[shunyata]

There’s some amazing scientific knowledge being shared in this thread.

most people also don’t realize how badass chickens can be.

Birds are crazy, chickens are one thing. Crows and raptors are nuts. And they are all therapods. Feathers are just rare to get preserved in the fossil record of larger organisms we've found so far, so evidence has been limited but documented.

Feathers on a trex or any large cretaceous therapods is pure speculation, but there was a peer reviewed published find of some ~5-6 foot long plant eater in China a few years back that had actual mummified skin and spines from feather like structures.

 

[armbarforhire]

This doesn't make me think differently of them. The meanest animal I ever met was a rooster named Sam we had when I was a kid. He was a vicious bastard.

Exactly my toughts

Add size, strenght, teeth and a huge bite. Also a little bit smarter than reptiles.

 

[PBAC]

This doesn't make me think differently of them. The meanest animal I ever met was a rooster named Sam we had when I was a kid. He was a vicious bastard.

Sam is the perfect name for a psychotic chicken

 

[PBAC]

Amazing how a couple of unemployed toilet-cleaners on a kung fu forum, can skim a wikipedia article or two, and be more knowledgeable about the subject than the entire palaeontology community.

It's actually fair. People who aren't academically attatched to certain fields are more prone to asking usettling questions. Scientists can be as bad as religious types when it comes to holding onto ideas. I want to see a feathered lizard.

Also, I'll have you know I used to collect Dinosaur magazines so I'm kind of a tough guy

 

[LEWIS540]

It's actually fair. People who aren't academically attatched to certain fields are more prone to asking usettling questions. Scientists can be as bad as religious types when it comes to holding onto ideas. I want to see a feathered lizard.

Also, I'll have you know I used to collect Dinosaur magazines so I'm kind of a tough guy

 

[Jack Reacheround]

oi. light yearw advanced


some dinos are notably acceptped to be totally bird like and really booked/or are believed to have looked just like bird. That ak47 wielding bird is really no different.

Here is Gallimimus apparently, we think ...

What gets me is why do they downplay the wings so much if flightless birds are in the minority? Is there a correlations between the fact that larger birds don't fly but still have wings,. Why is evolution fucking with them like that? Doesn't it make sense that if rex was a bird then his tiny arms could just be wing bones?

My guess would be that wings on larger birds are vestigial.

 

[PBAC]

My guess would be that wings on larger birds are vestigial.

well yeah, but Dinosaurs lived a long time. If wings became irrelevant they'd have lost any use and gone the way of the dinosaur.

Also, why are Pterodactyls depicted as flying lizards when they are the most likely to be birds? They are also the most glaring bird like beaked creatures yet we decided they are reptilians. And why do they get to fly and use their wings when everyone else said, nah let's all lumber around on our giant ass Dinosaur feet.

I was looking into it and read the lizard scales evolved into feathers but can't find any active evidence to see it as being possible. I get it, the scales probably became softer and turned into something more feathery but why was this not repeated. And they evolved due to colder environments? Wasn't the temperature during those period warmers with moist tropical air? Why would a cold blooded creature evolve feathers to protect them from the cold in a tropical environment?

So I'm guessing the skin is not scales but more paneled like an elephant or a rhino, which raises the question that they should evolve woolen hair like a wooly mammoth. Never seen a feathered elephant or rhino either.

 

[PBAC]

you have an MU logo so I'm guessing you are an MU fan. I hearby forbid you from talking about MU because you are not a footballer or a football club manager. Realistically who do have the best convos with about football? Well it's the fans. The people who actually like this stuff. If we didn't discuss this stuff there wouldn't be much of if any support for a lot of anything. Same reason sherdog exists.

 

[LEWIS540]

you have an MU logo so I'm guessing you are an MU fan. I hearby forbid you from talking about MU because you are not a footballer or a football club manager. Realistically who do have the best convos with about football? Well it's the fans. The people who actually like this stuff. If we didn't discuss this stuff there wouldn't be much of if any support for a lot of anything. Same reason sherdog exists.

Giving an opinion on a sports match or film is not the same as commenting on science when you have rudimentary (at best) knowledge on the subject.

I can have fun conversations about football with fellow fans, but my opinion about tactics mean nothing when compared to those of Pep Guardiola or Jurgen Klopp.

Sure scientists might get it wrong and disagree with each other, but there is normally at least some basis to their theories. In fact that’s what science does, try and prove itself wrong.

 

[TribalDrumz]

The back of the EMU legs are knarly

 

[TribalDrumz]

Freaking Philippine Eagle must be protected at all costs

 

[PBAC]

Giving an opinion on a sports match or film is not the same as commenting on science when you have rudimentary (at best) knowledge on the subject.

I can have fun conversations about football with fellow fans, but my opinion about tactics mean nothing when compared to those of Pep Guardiola or Jurgen Klopp.

Sure scientists might get it wrong and disagree with each other, but there is normally at least some basis to their theories. In fact that’s what science does, try and prove itself wrong.

science does. scientists do not.

also on what basis are we having this conversation? We agree that dinosaurs are feathered lizards or they were reptilians without feathers? How did they mix up birds and reptilians this much?

 

[LEWIS540]

science does. scientists do not.

also on what basis are we having this conversation? We agree that dinosaurs are feathered lizards or they were reptilians without feathers? How did they mix up birds and reptilians this much?

I’m saying I’m gonna listen to what the experts say and respect their opinions more than what some random, barely literate, dip shit’s “gut feeling” tells him.

 

[PBAC]

I’m saying I’m gonna listen to what the experts say and respect their opinions more than what some random, barely literate, dip shit’s “gut feeling” tells him.

there's literally no opinion in the thread

 

[PBAC]

The back of the EMU legs are knarly

this gives logical standing