Economy Supermarket destroys food, does not let people salvage them

[Limbo Pete]

Not sure about oregon, but in my state you would either contact a lawfirm to do it or go to the local courthouse, pay about $50 in fees, then a court date would be set.

Whoooosh

 

[Limbo Pete]

My family has a business. We throw away lots of wood building products , for recycling etc.. Sometimes neighbors come and take stuff. We told them to help themselves as it is going for recycling.

The whole thing is complete nonsense lol

 

[MicroBrew]

Fuck that. Go to a homeless shelter, soup kitchen or get a fucking job.
What are you advocating, the right for people to pick through garbage and eat it?

Homeless shelters are not on every corner . I don't know where this Fred Meyer is located but the one I used to go to in Portland didn't have any homeless shelters near by.

Lots of homeless people also go to Fred Meyer to redeem the deposit for the soda cans; the store has an automated soda can recycling machine outside , which gives out a voucher I believe, that can be exchanged for cash inside the store. So you could have homeless people redeeming their haul of soda cans then looking through the trash for food.

 

[Misfit23]

The power went out again last night, lol.

 

[west42]

How you gonna sue someone over food being spoiled when you take it out of the trash lol

Same way trespassers on private sue the property owner if they get hurt while trespassing on the owner's property. It's idiotic, but does happen. Which is the whole gist of this argument. There's always a scenario that get around liability protections. Stores donating food to a food bank are pretty much in the clear......unless, for example, the food was *possibly* tampered with by a disgruntled employee and they knew about it. Bam, because they had knowledge of the food maybe being unsafe, they ARE liable if there is fallout from donating it.

 

[Limbo Pete]

Same way trespassers on private sue the property owner if they get hurt while trespassing on the owner's property. It's idiotic, but does happen. Which is the whole gist of this argument. There's always a scenario that get around liability protections. Stores donating food to a food bank are pretty much in the clear......unless, for example, the food was *possibly* tampered with by a disgruntled employee and they knew about it. Bam, because they had knowledge of the food maybe being unsafe, they ARE liable if there is fallout from donating it.

So you're saying that Fred Meyer will be held liable for something they did not sell, did not donate, and was literally taken from the trash

 

[Scerpi]

Most of the food that gets thrown away in the supermarket is totally fine to eat. Complete and utter waste. Of course, profits etc.

Liability... blame lawyer

 

[HereticBD]

So you're saying that Fred Meyer will be held liable for something they did not sell, did not donate, and was literally taken from the trash

Are you saying you know more than all these food industries that all do the exact same thing? I mean, it's pretty standard practice across the board. I think they might know a bit more than you do about their own liability when it comes to this.

 

[Staph infection]

How you gonna sue someone over food being spoiled when you take it out of the trash lol

How do burglars get injured breaking into homes and sue, how do people get into gun fights with the police and get hurt or killed and either they sue or the families sue, how does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work?

 

[tonni]

Liability... blame lawyer

We don't have nearly as many frivolous lawsuits in Belgium and it's just as illegal here. They're not responsible if people steal from their bins.

 

[Seano]

Jesus christ

No, really. What are you fighting for? The right to eat trash? To feed homeless food that has expired and isn't fit for sale for the rest of us to eat?

Lets be honest, do you honestly think that these people would be celebrated if they rolled their dumpsters out front of their store and told the homeless to have at it? Fucking please. "Hey homeless people, come eat our garbage!"

You people come up with the weirdest shit to try to appear virtuous. Yeah, thats what a grocery store wants is to be- identified as the place where homeless people get free food from the garbage.

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

I'm curious how many people in this thread have ever honestly volunteered at a soup kitchen or something similar?

Several will say they have, only a fraction will be telling the truth.

 

[MicroBrew]

Are you saying you know more than all these food industries that all do the exact same thing? I mean, it's pretty standard practice across the board. I think they might know a bit more than you do about their own liability when it comes to this.

If things were as you guys seemed to think, nobody would be donating anything.

Just because some lawyer was paranoid and told Fred Meyer not to allow people to rummage through the trash , does not mean Fred Meyer would likely have gotten sued and lost.

 

[Limbo Pete]

How do burglars get injured breaking into homes and sue, how do people get into gun fights with the police and get hurt or killed and either they sue or the families sue, how does the posi-trac rear end on a Plymouth work?

Yelp review:
Randy M,
Lifted a week old pot roast from the dumpster behind Safeway. Juices were congealed. Expect to hear from my lawyers.

 

[HereticBD]

If things were as you guys seemed to think, nobody would be donating anything.

Just because some lawyer was paranoid and told Fred Meyer not to allow people to rummage through the trash , does not mean Fred Meyer would likely have gotten sued and lost.

You should contact their legal teams and set them straight. You seem to know more than they do.

 

[MicroBrew]

You should contact their legal teams and set them straight. You seem to know more than they do.

You know lawyers can be overzealous and tend to write a Magnus Opus for all the things their client can not be held responsible for.

We have a good layer for our business, who charges over $500 an hour, and he hasn't told us NOT to let neighbors take the wood / engineered products we leave outside near the dumpster.

 

[west42]

And does knowingly allowing access to perishables that have been stored in broken refrigeration units constitute that? I'd argue that it does.
also, those lawyers on retainer you keep mentioning-do you think they would recommend throwing it away or letting people grab it out of the dumpster? Be honest.

They did throw the food away, and if that was that, then the police wouldn't have been involved.

This discussion isn't about should they have donated the food. It's about whether they are liable for dumpster diving related illness or injury and the answer is essentially "no, not in the absence of flagrant negligence".

And yes in our legal system you can file a lawsuit against anyone at (almost) any time for any reason. That doesn't mean the court has to hear it, or that you will win. It's why everyone pays liability insurance and why most mid sized to large businesses keep lawyers on retainer. Variables surrounding dumpster diving have little to no effect on that.

 

[Limbo Pete]

No, really. What are you fighting for? The right to eat trash? To feed homeless food that has expired and isn't fit for sale for the rest of us to eat?

Lets be honest, do you honestly think that these people would be celebrated if they rolled their dumpsters out front of their store and told the homeless to have at it? Fucking please. "Hey homeless people, come eat our garbage!"

You people come up with the weirdest shit to try to appear virtuous. Yeah, thats what a grocery store wants is to be- identified as the place where homeless people get free food from the garbage.

Fighting? What fight?

 

[Ruprecht]

Most of the food that gets thrown away in the supermarket is totally fine to eat. Complete and utter waste. Of course, profits etc.

Looks like mostly cheese and yoghurt in the picture though. Hard cheese should be OK, but yoghurts pretty questionable.
Although if the temperatures are around freezing anyway it should be fine (this is because of lack of refrigeration right?).
You're right though in that use by dates are often simply a matter of quality rather than potential for illness.

 

[Seano]

Fighting? What fight?

Is this necessary?