Economy Supermarket destroys food, does not let people salvage them

[oldshadow]

Both of these things already fucking exist lol

I posted the law giving them liability protection and frivolous lawsuit protections.

But that doesn't prevent them from being sued that just gets it thrown out then if the want money to make up for their court cost they have to fight for it.

So you haven't linked anything to make it worth the chance for them.

 

[skysolo]

I don't know what more we need to show that our government doesn't care about us.

Police are literally threatening people who want to take food from a dumpster.

Instead of paying the police to protect garbage cans, how about we take that money and FEED PEOPLE? Since we live in the richest country to ever exist.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

But that doesn't prevent them from being sued that just gets it thrown out then if the want money to make up for their court cost they have to fight for it.

So you haven't linked anything to make it worth the chance for them.

Lol

 

[oldshadow]

Lol

Lol all you want but with the way things are I don't blame them.

It would be nice if if could be different but untill it is I don't blame them for not taking the chance.

 

[oldshadow]

I don't know what more we need to show that our government doesn't care about us.

Police are literally threatening people who want to take food from a dumpster.

Instead of paying the police to protect garbage cans, how about we take that money and FEED PEOPLE? Since we live in the richest country to ever exist.

The police are protecting the stores property. Once the dumpster is off their property then its a different matter.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

Lol all you want but with the way things are I don't blame them.

It would be nice if if could be different but untill it is I don't blame them for not taking the chance.

You've made it clear you won't blame them regardless of the facts.

 

[west42]

Their liability is EXTREMELY limited. There is a lot of case law around this, all the way up to the supreme court. According to a 1988 Supreme Court Ruling (California vs. Greenwood), when a person throws something out, that item is now the public domain.
Only when the receptacle is on public property. Stores usually are in private leased property.
In other words, the second it hits the dumpster it's not the store's property anymore it's public domain. So they aren't responsible for food poisoning.

With that stated, trespassing laws do apply while the dumpster is on their property. Trespassing in a publicly accessible space does come with it's own set of laws. Walking into a partking lot that's open to the public is almost certainly not trespassing until you are specifically asked to leave.

Dumpster diving liability questions are so common, that the synopsis below is from a personal injury lawyer's website.

LIABILITY ISSUES ARISING FROM DUMPSTER DIVING

While many business owners are concerned that they can be held responsible if expired food or similar goods in their trash cause harm to a dumpster diver or if a dumpster diver is injured on their property, this is not usually the case.
So risk a possible lawsuit on "usually?"
Unless the business has been negligent, they should not be responsible for a dumpster diver’s injuries or illness as a result of eating or using items that have been thrown away. - Source​

 

[jx820]

So risk a possible lawsuit on "usually?"

UNLESS

It's really important that you read everything, not just until you get to the parts you think make a point you like. It's "unless the business has been negligent". If I were doling out legal advice I'd personally focus more on "don't be negligent" than worry about if people will get sick from eating "public domain" garbage.

All businesses have a liability. If I sprain my ankle walking through a parking lot there is potentially personal injury liability if it occured due to negligence. If I slip in a spill in the store there is liability, but you wouldn't say, don't let customers in the store or people walk in the parking lot because of potential liabilities. You take reasonable precautions.

I also probably wouldn't want a lot of people blatantly dumpster diving in my parking lot in the middle of the day (for a number of reasons) and would probably call the police just to cover my ass, but that's not the issue I was addressing. People are claiming that the business would face liability for food poisoning or personal injury and that's not the case and there is a huge amount of case law to back that up.

 

[skysolo]

The police are protecting the stores property. Once the dumpster is off their property then its a different matter.

Garbage > feeding people. Got it.

You missed my point.

 

[skysolo]

Homelessness SHOULD be illegal, because we as a society should insure that no one is without shelter.

I shouldn't be surprised at how many people defend corporate interests.

People are literally digging thru dumpsters for food. This is where we should start.

 

[oldshadow]

You've made it clear you won't blame them regardless of the facts.

You have made it clear you do care about them as long as they do what you think they should.

 

[MicroBrew]

It's on thier property

I don't think anyone is disputing that. People are just saying that they should not be soo zealous in preventinghomeless people taking food out of the dumpster. They can just put a note saying they don't approve of it and they will not be liable for expired food.

 

[MicroBrew]

How is a homeowner liable when a burglar gets injured breaking into their home? There are many cases where people should not be liable but there are scumbag lawyers that will take any case in hopes of getting a payout.

It would be awesome if they could donate the food or even have a food line or something where it is passed out at the stores but the risk is too high for them. Instead of people getting angry with Meyers, they should be angry over the fact that we have become a society where you cannot even help others for fear of legal ramifications.

You are bringing up some extreme cases. As a rule a homeowner is not held liable.

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

I don't think anyone is disputing that. People are just saying that they should not be soo zealous in preventinghomeless people taking food out of the dumpster. They can just put a note saying they don't approve of it and they will not be liable for expired food.

I posted it earlier but they can donate the food to any food bank or shelter and they would be clear of liability

 

[MicroBrew]

I posted it earlier but they can donate the food to any food bank or shelter and they would be clear of liability

So why don't they donate the food they are throwing away into the dumpster?

 

[PolishHeadlock2]

So why don't they donate the food they are throwing away into the dumpster?

I agree they should do that. I don't know why they didn't

 

[oldshadow]

Garbage > feeding people. Got it.

You missed my point.

So if you are hungry looting is ok and the police are wrong to stop you.

You missed my point.

 

[west42]

But in foresight what is reasonable precautions? there's probably a million scenarios that a lawyer could dream up if somebody gets hurt or sick from them donating food. If they threw the food away that's that. As a business owner I know which call I would make. The problem is with our legal system,, it's not the stores fault.

UNLESS

It's really important that you read everything, not just until you get to the parts you think make a point you like. It's "unless the business has been negligent". If I were doling out legal advice I'd personally focus more on "don't be negligent" than worry about if people will get sick from eating "public domain" garbage.

All businesses have a liability. If I sprain my ankle walking through a parking lot there is potentially personal injury liability if it occured due to negligence. If I slip in a spill in the store there is liability, but you wouldn't say, don't let customers in the store or people walk in the parking lot because of potential liabilities. You take reasonable precautions.

I also probably wouldn't want a lot of people blatantly dumpster diving in my parking lot in the middle of the day (for a number of reasons) and would probably call the police just to cover my ass, but that's not the issue I was addressing. People are claiming that the business would face liability for food poisoning or personal injury and that's not the case and there is a huge amount of case law to back that up.

 

[Rocco Siffredi]

Conservatard logic

They are destroying food because of power outage and arent letting hungry people salvage them

but but you didnt earn this with your privleidged upbringing!

Portland is as left as you can get. Can't blame the red here. Get a clue, Karen B.

 

[Gas121]

Just lol @ anyone thinks this okay when people are starving. The ol 'they might get sick' is a poor excuse and doesn't cut it.

Let them eat at their own risk but its no donation. Society is backwards and greed. Sad