Summery in March (SCO v 31)

[kpt018]

You want the president to be a Russian puppet.

What could be more treasonous? You are actively rooting for the highest office in the land to be compromised so you can 'win' on a message board.

No I don't. Now you're just trying to smear me. Fuck off.

 

[kpt018]

I'd actually support Pelosi shutting down Congress from pushing things further. The Dems have thoroughly embarrassed themselves and given Trump a massive 2020 boost.

Trump's proposed budget involves cutting Medicare, Medicaid, and social security. Dems would be wise to force the corporate media to talk about that.

I'd argue the results have given the Dems a boost. And how did the Dems embarrass themselves? The investigation was initiated in a partisan way.

Agree with your last point and I'd just add it looks like Trump is making serious moves to completely gutting the ACA which would be a major blow to healthcare.

 

[franklinstower]

I almost completely checked out of these threads long ago for the following reasons:

* It was obvious to me that there had been no collusion.
* It was also obvious that progressives didn’t really believe there had been collusion either so much as they needed Trump’s election to somehow be illegitimate.

The report won’t end anything. Progressives who still need to believe will glom onto whatever detail, no matter how small or insignificant, that allows them to continue reeing about Trump’s illegitimacy.

You need to make more meaningful distinctions. The majority of progressive voices out there did NOT buy into collusion and were very vocal about it all along.

 

[HereticBD]

I'd argue the results have given the Dems a boost.

 

[Factory]

The report won’t end anything. Progressives who still need to believe will glom onto whatever detail, no matter how small or insignificant, that allows them to continue reeing about Trump’s illegitimacy.

Which will result in a big boost for Trump2020. The only way to defend a conspiracy theory is to cover it up with an even bigger conspiracy theory. Why did Mueller decide not to fail a decision regarding obstruction? Do we need to investigate Barr? Did Mueller want to protect Trump? Was the investigation even complete? etc.

 

[Gunny]

You need to make more meaningful distinctions. The majority of progressive voices out there did NOT buy into collusion and were very vocal about it all along.

What does “out there” mean? I was talking about the progressives who’ve been tirelessly working these threads for the past two and a half years

 

[franklinstower]

What does “out there” mean? I was talking about the progressives who’ve been tirelessly working these threads for the past two and a half years

You did not say that so it sounded like you meant progressives and not just 5-10 people on this site. Its really the MSM that hung their hat on this issue stupidly-- way more than even the dems in congress did.

 

[kpt018]

When did you become the authority on what get's Democrats motivated and what doesn't? I mean, you have a hard time even summarizing left wing political views.

 

[Gunny]

You did not say that so it sounded like you meant progressives and not just 5-10 people on this site. Its really the MSM that hung their hat on this issue stupidly-- way more than even the dems in congress did.

Respectfully, I began that post essentially stating here are the reasons I don’t like the conversation going on in these threads: Does it not follow that the bullet points after the colon would be in reference to those conversations?

 

[Not A Theist]

I'd argue the results have given the Dems a boost. And how did the Dems embarrass themselves? The investigation was initiated in a partisan way.

You can't actually believe this.

 

[franklinstower]

Respectfully, I began that post essentially stating here are the reasons I don’t like the conversation going on in these threads: Does it not follow that the bullet points after the colon would be in reference to those conversations?

No not really-- it wasn't clear at all and could be taken lots of ways-- Its no big deal man. I'm not impugning your character based on the construction of one sentence. Also I want it known that the progressive left did not buy into this by and large. It was always seen as bullshit that the corrupt dems were putting all their hopes in while distracting from and ignoring real policy issues that any non corrupt dem could have attacked the Trump admin on. That is if they themselves were not sold out to corporate money too.

 

[glenwo2]

This has been a fascinating discussion overall.
It's actually becoming increasingly obvious that the smartest men in the room, anti Fox News/talk radio type are the most gullible and slowest to realize they've been reamed.

 

[Gunny]

No not really-- it wasn't clear at all and could be taken lots of ways-- Its no big deal man. I'm not impugning your character based on the construction of one sentence. Also I want it known that the progressive left did not buy into this by and large. It was always seen as bullshit that the corrupt dems were putting all their hopes in while distracting from and ignoring real policy issues that any non corrupt dem could have attacked the Trump admin on. That is if they themselves were not sold out to corporate money too.

Ok, I’m sorry for making you feel implicated by the post.

 

[glenwo2]

This seems pretty disingenous. He is exonerated, but the left doesn't want to accept it.

I think it's soul searching time for the left: You guys need to look inwardly and figure out why you're in mourning. Why did you want so badly for the worst to be true?

Are you really all so petty and treasonous?

Reminds me of all the NSA surveillance excuses : "If you have nothing to hide, there's nothing to worry about".

 

[franklinstower]

Ok, I’m sorry for making you feel implicated by the post.

 

[glenwo2]

Yeah. Talk about DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR.

 

[Gunny]

Lol, you’re losing me now man. You made your case, I apologized for the misunderstanding. And that bothers you?

 

[luckyshot]

I just don’t get all the hot takes...

Until we see the report, all we have is the word of Trump’s hand picked, loyalist AG.

Plus, it is impossible to indict a sitting president.

Put that together, and we basically know nothing about what the report does or doesn’t say about “individual #1” potentially illegal dealings, right?

Am I way off in left field here? Is there something I’m missing?

 

[kpt018]

You can't actually believe this.

Of course and the logic is pretty straight-forward. If we are to assume impeachment is off the table (and it is) and Trump is so despised by the left they will have to get him out of office the old fashioned way - vote his ass out of office. It's hard to tell this early but this type of stuff can improve turnout. Dems are a combination of "why are we drawing conclusions based on a summary, one that shows he may have obstructed justice" to he's gaming the system.

Instead of the knee jerk reactions from you guys would one of you care to explain why you think I'm wrong? Or are memes and "are you kidding" shit enough?

 

[kpt018]

I just don’t get all the hot takes...

Until we see the report, all we have is the word of Trump’s hand picked, loyalist AG.

Plus, it is impossible to indict a sitting president.

Put that together, and we basically know nothing about what the report does or doesn’t say about “individual #1” potentially illegal dealings, right?

Am I way off in left field here? Is there something I’m missing?

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