Summery in March (SCO v 31)

glenwo2 said:
No wonder the Democrats are NOW thinking of a cover-up. {<diva}{<diva}{<diva}
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This has been a fascinating discussion overall.
It's actually becoming increasingly obvious that the smartest men in the room, anti Fox News/talk radio type are the most gullible and slowest to realize they've been reamed.
 
Yorkist said:
Makes perfect sense. You want the report made public, right?
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Public or at least have it evaluated by people that can be trusted to make the key parts public. I understand that parts may have sensitive information (perhaps national security) and that obviously can’t be made public.

If Trump is really exonerated we need to move past this shit. Keeping the report secret just drags it out. We need closure.
 
Farmer Br0wn said:
Elections have consequences.


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Yeah, I’ve been saying that for years. But let me ask you. Did you elect guys that you want to see cover the truth out of part loyalty?

If this was reversed and if Schumer kept the investigation results of Joe Biden hidden from public I’d be pissed. I thought it was great that all the Benghazi stuff was out in the open, for example. It exonerated her and we can move on.

I really don’t understand why you guys don’t want that.
 
kpt018 said:
If Trump is really exonerated we need to move past this shit. Keeping the report secret just drags it out. We need closure.
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This seems pretty disingenous. He is exonerated, but the left doesn't want to accept it.

I think it's soul searching time for the left: You guys need to look inwardly and figure out why you're in mourning. Why did you want so badly for the worst to be true?

Are you really all so petty and treasonous?
 
Yorkist said:
This seems pretty disingenous. He is exonerated, but the left doesn't want to accept it.

I think it's soul searching time for the left: You guys need to look inwardly and figure out why you're in mourning. Why did you want so badly for the worst to be true?

Are you really all so petty and treasonous?
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A summary from a Trump nominee who lobbied for the job by publicly criticizing the Mueller investigation does not exonerate him. Especially when we consider the findings on obstruction of justice. The only way to exonerate Trump is to release the report or to hear from Mueller himself. The country deserves it.

And wtf are you taking about when you call people “treasonous”? Talk about disengenuous!

And chill out with the “mourning shit”. I’d like to get the country to get past this. And like I said (which you ignored) blocking the release of the report drags it out.
 
kpt018 said:
A summary from a Trump nominee who lobbied for the job by publicly criticizing the Mueller investigation does not exonerate him. Especially when we consider the findings on obstruction of justice. The only way to exonerate Trump is to release the report or to hear from Mueller himself. The country deserves it.

And wtf are you taking about when you call people “treasonous”? Talk about disengenuous!
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You want the president to be a Russian puppet.

What could be more treasonous? You are actively rooting for the highest office in the land to be compromised so you can 'win' on a message board.
 
Fawlty said:
Well that about wraps up the run-on sentence award for 2019.

I'm ready to pull up stakes and move on from the Campaign-Russia election connection, but my ticket out of town is the text of the Mueller report, and I'll wait for my ticket.
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As you should, but I wouldnt hold my breath that anything significant is unredacted.
 
Fawlty said:
Well that about wraps up the run-on sentence award for 2019.

I'm ready to pull up stakes and move on from the Campaign-Russia election connection, but my ticket out of town is the text of the Mueller report, and I'll wait for my ticket.
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Barr is such tease, mentioning:
  • POTUS actions investigated werent "the subject of public reporting"
  • unexplained "evidence on both sides of the question" of obstruction
  • "several matters refered to offices for further action" - doesn't say if all are publically reported?
xcvbn said:
As you should, but I wouldnt hold my breath that anything significant is unredacted.
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Based on the below it sounds like most of the details, unless it is russian interference related and classified for nat security, are redacted because they pertain to ongoing cases - what is still open - Flynn sentencing? Stone? and I am not sure if there are other matters that may be under investigation we don't know about. But anyway even if Barr doesn't want to share, by the time Congress gets ahold of it we should see details except for the ongoing cases.

Based on my discussions with the Special Counsel and my initial review, it is apparent that the report contains material that is or could be subject to Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 6(e), which imposes restrictions on the use and disclosure of information relating to “matter occurring before [a] grand jury.” Fed. R. Crim. P. 6(e)(2)(B). Rule 6(e) generally limits disclosure of certain grand jury information in a criminal investigation and prosecution. Id. Disclosure of 6(e) material beyond the strict limits set forth in the rule is a crime in certain circumstances. See, e.g., 18 U.S.C. 401(3). This restriction protects the integrity of grand jury proceedings and ensures that the unique and invaluable investigative powers of a grand jury are used strictly for their intended criminal justice function.
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ocean size said:
Barr is such tease, mentioning:
  • POTUS actions investigated werent "the subject of public reporting"
  • unexplained "evidence on both sides of the question" of obstruction
  • "several matters refered to offices for further action" - doesn't say if all are publically reported?

Based on the below it sounds like most of the details, unless it is russian interference related and classified for nat security, are redacted because they pertain to ongoing cases - what is still open - Flynn sentencing? Stone? and I am not sure if there are other matters that may be under investigation we don't know about. But anyway even if Barr doesn't want to share, by the time Congress gets ahold of it we should see details except for the ongoing cases.
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I'd actually support Pelosi shutting down Congress from pushing things further. The Dems have thoroughly embarrassed themselves and given Trump a massive 2020 boost.

Trump's proposed budget involves cutting Medicare, Medicaid, and social security. Dems would be wise to force the corporate media to talk about that.
 
xcvbn said:
I'd actually support Pelosi shutting down Congress from pushing things further. The Dems have thoroughly embarrassed themselves and given Trump a massive 2020 boost.

Trump's proposed budget involves cutting Medicare, Medicaid, and social security. Dems would be wise to force the corporate media to talk about that.
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Yup agreed plenty to to actually talk about, people don't really give a shit about this compared to the issues.

I want to see the report though.
 
Have avoided these threads as I thought they were a bunch of nothing But I find it weird that yesterday Wikipedia had Muellers picture on the front page, in the on going news section. They said Trump was clear of collusion with Russians. Now that story and pic is gone.

But the story about the Khazach president, which was posted before the Mueller/Trump article is still up.

They worried they were triggering too many people? Lol
 
Mueller should be getting praise from all sides for doing his job objectively and fairly. He shined a light under the rug looking for rats. He found cockroaches instead, and squished them.
 
I almost completely checked out of these threads long ago for the following reasons:

* It was obvious to me that there had been no collusion.
* It was also obvious that progressives didn’t really believe there had been collusion either so much as they needed Trump’s election to somehow be illegitimate.

The report won’t end anything. Progressives who still need to believe will glom onto whatever detail, no matter how small or insignificant, that allows them to continue reeing about Trump’s illegitimacy.
 
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