Movies SUICIDE SQUAD v.4 (Dragonlord's Review)

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Update: August 3, 2016

Dragonlord's Review of SUICIDE SQUAD (No Spoilers)

Bottom Line: Despite a fun, peppy entertaining vibe in the first half, Suicide Squad loses steam midway and falls apart in the last act resembling X-Men: Apocalypse mix with Ghostbusters.

DC Extended Universe's third offering - Suicide Squad - is bold and commendable due to the risk of making a feature film about a group of bad guys that are mostly unfamiliar to the general public. Two years ago, it worked for the kooky but lovable characters in Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy and Warner Bros. is hoping lightning strikes twice. They even positioned Suicide Squad the same month (August) when GotG was also released.

From the amazing cast assembled, to the electrifying trailers, to the impressive marketing campaign, the film has captured the public's attention and will likely be rewarded with a huge opening weekend. But will this turn out to be another Batman v Superman where bad word-of-mouth from critics and fans alike cut the film's legs after the first week.

The story revolves around a group of (super) villains recruited to Task Force X, a black ops government strike team created by Amanda Waller (Viola Davis) assigned to handle metahuman threats. Their first mission is to retrieve a valuable package from Midway City that is under siege by a powerful otherworldly entity.

Task Force X is comprised of Deadshot (Will Smith), Harley Quinn (Margot Robbie), Captain Boomerang (Jai Courtney), Killer Croc (Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje), Slipknot (Adam Beach) and El Diablo (Jay Hernandez), with Rick Flag (Joel Kinnaman) as their field leader and Katana (Karen Fukuhara) as his bodyguard.

The first act of the film is mostly a set-up to introduce the various villainous characters and their backstories, complete with lively visual stats and graphic designs. There's a fun, peppy energy to the first half but things slowly get bogged down at the second half once they reach the city.

If you are tired of seeing superheroes battle countless faceless drones, you are going to be majorly disappointed with this one since the Task Force X goes up against faceless, like literally faceless, foot soldiers. The first wave of resistance the team encounters is fine as we finally get to see our anti-heroes in action but it quickly gets old the second time it happens.

These faceless, generic zombie soldiers are shot, stabbed, sliced, decapitated and get their heads blown up repeatedly. And that's the reason why they went with the faceless route because they can't get away with that kind of violence in a PG-13 setting. But it still would have been more effective and scarier if these zombies had a human face but with dirty makeup similar to the creepy Enchantress.

The actual mission is where the film stumbles with its plodding plot, contrived character actions, and overall poor execution. By the time it reaches the third act, the film has transformed into a eerie facsimile of the endings from X-Men: Apocalypse and the original Ghostbusters movie.

Among the missteps writer-director David Ayer made was the choice for the big bad, Incubus, which was too powerful. You immediately question the effectiveness on how the mostly non-metahuman Task Force X can go up against a god. It's ridiculous how Incubus easily and efficiently dispatched the human soldiers early on but resorted to slapping and kicking when facing Task Force X.

Task Force X being accompanied by a squad of soldiers was a misstep because it lessened the tension knowing there's backup for the team. Another blunder is going with the generic end-of-the-world mission scenario rather than going for something smaller in scale.

Taking into consideration that I'm not a Will Smith hater, I enjoyed his performance as Deadshot. A hitman known for not missing a shot, Deadshot had some terrific action moments. Would have liked for the actor to tone down his Will Smith-ism mannerisms but it's the lesser evil as proven with Independence Day: Resurgence since that film greatly suffered without his star-power charisma.

Margot Robbie was fantastic as Harley Quinn, radiantly bringing Paul Dini and Bruce Timm's creation to life on the big screen. Aside from providing the sexiness factor, Quinn was the welcomed comic relief.

Jai Courtney was surprisingly decent as Captain Boomerang. He got the look and obnoxiousness right but it's just unfortunate that he wasn't given a lot to do. Courtney's Boomerang could have easily been one of the memorable characters but he was stuck with some forgettable lines and severely lackluster action scenes (Nick Tarabay's Captain Boomerang in The CW's Arrow/The Flash had a much cooler boomerang action scenes).

The normally wooden Joel Kinnaman was pretty good as Rick Flag. Viola Davis was terrific as Amanda Waller. Jay Hernandez as El Diablo was notable as the character's powers was one of the best displays of pyrokinesis I've seen in cinema. Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje's Killer Croc was just adequate and his lines were inaudible. Too bad, the character could have been a breakout star like Drax in GotG if given more quality lines and scenes.

The mysterious Katana (Karen Fukuhara) was perfect in the way she was depicted and in the way they gave her some remarkable action scenes. She doesn't have much lines but her presence is utterly magnetic. Her backstory wasn't as fleshed out as the others but it only added more mystique and allure to the character. The Enchantress (Cara Delevingne), with the dirty look and heavy makeup, was effectively creepy early on but became a joke after she cleaned herself up.

One of the most talked-about castings in years, Jared Leto was respectable as the Joker but nothing truly outstanding or unique. In fact his performance reminded me of another character from a different movie or TV show (can't pinpoint it for now). The Joker wasn't really necessary to the story and could possibly have been disruptive to the film's rhythm. Keep his flashback scenes but they should have omitted him out from the actual story until the very end. The twisted romance story between the Joker and Harley Quinn was kinda sweet though.

Another evidence the film is trying to emulate the irreverence spirit of Guardians of the Galaxy is the bombardment of fun, eclectic old songs that accompanies every characters' intro and every scene involving the Squad early on. Didn't really mind it as it adds to the frenetic pace of the first half but could be off-putting to some.

Overall, Suicide Squad is not DCEU's saving grace but it's not a horrible film either. There are many enjoyable moments and a few tweaks of the script could easily made this into a really good comic book movie. Watch out for a mid-credits scene.

RATING: 6./10

Spoiler: Musings and spoiler thoughts on the film

El Diablo declaring that the Squad was his new family felt forced. It's not as believable because their camaraderie wasn't clearly established on screen like they needed a few more scenes to reach there.

Felt Captain Boomerang should have died before the team went to the bar to further drive home the stakes. Besides, Boomerang wasn't very memorable at all. So no loss if he croaked.

Amanda Waller's security protocols in guarding Enchantress' heart was weak. There were so many instances where Enchantress could have grabbed her heart.

I'll add more later.

Link to previous threads:
Suicide Squad Official Thread v.1
Suicide Squad Official Thread v.2
Suicide Squad Official Thread v.3

 

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Update: August 7, 2016

SUICIDE SQUAD Breaks August Opening Record with $135.1M But Drops Sharply Saturday

David Ayer's Suicide Squad may have opened to an August-best $135.1 million at the North American box office, but bad reviews and so-so audience reaction are already taking their toll.

After pulling in an impressive $65.1 million on Friday, it looked like the Warner Bros.' tentpole, playing in 4,255 theaters, would debut to $145 million-$150 million. But traffic slowed dramatically throughout Saturday, or 41 percent day-over-day, a far steeper drop than other successful superhero movies (The Dark Knight also dropped 41 percent, but the movie was impacted by the Aurora shooting.)

Overseas, Suicide Squad amassed $132 million in its debut in 57 markets, the second-best showing for a DC superhero title afterBatman v. Superman: Dawn of Justice ($256.5 million) and the biggest August launch of any film. That puts Suicide Squad's global bow at $267.1 million. (Dawn of Justice had the advantage of opening day-and-date in China, where Suicide Squad won't get a berth).

Suicide Squad — boasting a friendlier PG-13 rating — has been ravaged by critics and currently suffers a 26 percent rotten rating on Rotten Tomatoes. That's one point behind the 27 percent rating for fellow DCEU title Batman v. Superman, which debuted to a hefty $166.7 million in March, but fell off more quickly than expected in the following weeks.

Box Office Report: 'Suicide Squad' Opens to Big $135 Million But Drops Sharply Saturday

 

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Update: August 6, 2016

Rumor: List of Deleted Scenes from SUICIDE SQUAD Revealed

Suicide Squad reportedly test screened a few months back, and there apparently were two different versions that were screened. To add another intriguing aspect to this situation, a Reddit user shared a list of deleted scenes from the film that showcase a darker tone than the finished product. Now, it must be emphasized that this list of deleted scenes is not official, and further discussion on them is pure speculation. Read the scene descriptions below:

• “In early cuts, the movie’s opening detailed June Moon’s possession by Enchantress in real tome. Reshoots reshuffled the scene to be later in the movie in flashback form in favour of a new opening centered on Deadshot.”
  
  
• “Deadshot in the prison cell, watching the rain fall and thinking about his daughter.”
  
  
• “El Diablo observing the flame of a lit match, before putting it out due to his vow to no longer use his powers.”
  
  
• “El Diablo being escorted to a training center by being placed in a tube that fills with water to quel his flames, and then unceremoniously dropped onto the ground.”
  
  
• “Early interviews showed Captain Boomerang’s racism and sexism, but the movie is light on examples of such behaviour, which have apparently been deleted. Most of them were reportedly directed at Katana, to whom Boomerang is attracted to.”
  
  
• “Early reports indicated more backstory for Killer Croc, revealing that he entire life as a social outcast due to his physical appearancr and has convinced himself that he is beautiful in his own way. Croc crossed paths with Batman while working as muscle-for-hire for numerous Gotham’s crime bosses, while secretly planning to take over one day. There were also scenes displaying his affinity for making sculptures out of discarded materials. Aside from jokes about Croc viewing himself as ‘beautiful,’ one of these were retained in the final cut.”
  
  
• “Also deleted was a scene where he becomes sick at the helicopter escort to Midway City, throws up half-digested pieces of goat, and then eats them again, disgusting the nearby Navy Seals.”
  
  
• “Early cuts reportedly included a passing reference to Slipknot being serial rapist, likely to further paint him as unsympathetic to the audience ahead of his own death.”
  
  
• “More scenes of Rick Flag and June Moon’s romantic relationship, including him reading the files of the Suicide Squad recruits after Waller delivers them to him.”
  
  
• “Another scene where Flag and Moon are out on a date.”
  
  
• “Extended scene of Joker interrogating Captain Griggs, including the line, “I can’t wait to show you my toys,” which was in every trailer, but was removed from the movie.”
  
  
• “Joker and his men escaping after shooting up a restaurant. Harley, who is already affiliated with the Joker, follows them on a motorcycle and intercepts their car. Joker bangs his head against the glass in frustration.”
  
  
• “Joker and Harley then get into a fight, which ends with Harley pointing a gun at Joker’s head. Joker sweet-talks Harley into lowering the gun, charming her, then backhands her across the face. Afterwards he sweet-talks her again and they kiss.”
  
  
• “Extended Ace Chemicals scene where Harley jumps into the chemicals. More bits of dialogue from Joker.”
  
  
• “Extended Batmobile chase scene with more interaction between Joker and Harley. One of the examples, presented in all the trailers, is the Joker punching the roof of his car.”
  
  
• “Harley using her baseball bat as a mock gun to play shoot at invisible foes.”
  
  
• “Extended scene of Joker breaking into the nanobomb manufacture facility to arrange for Harley’s neck-bomb to be disabled.”
  
  
• “More interactions between Harley and Boomerang. Early cuts apparently included her really disliking him despite growing affectionate to all the other members of the squad.”
  
  
• “Extended bar scene with Harley taking everyone’s orders. Deadshot calls for a shot, Katana wants whiskey, Croc and Boomerang settle for beer, Harley asks Diablo wants and he prefers water which she jokes, “is a good idea.” The scene was featured in the trailers, but in the movie it cuts directly to Deadshot’s speech about them all almost pulling the mission off.”
  
  
• “Removed several scenes with the Joker to repaint his relationship with Harley as more loving rather than abusive.”
  
  
• “Joker and Harley get into an argument after he rescues her in the hijacked helicopter. In early cuts he reportedly pushes her out to kill her, then the helicopter gets shot down. This was apparently reworked into the helicopter getting shot down first and Joker pushing her out to save her.”
  
  
• “Joker returns during the final battle in the subway station, face half-burnt from the helicopter crash, which apparently leads to a brief altercation with the Squad. He calls for Harley to escape with him but she refuses for once in order to help her friends, and the Joker escapes after throwing a live grenade at the group to cover his own escape.”

Rumor: List of Unconfirmed Deleted Scenes from 'Suicide Squad' Revealed

 

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Update: August 5, 2016

Jared Leto Unhappy Many of His Joker Scenes Were Cut from SUICIDE SQUAD

Jared Leto isn't happy with many of his Joker scenes for Suicide Squad ended up on the cutting room floor. It’s no secret that the film was heavily edited in post-production and that there were even competing cuts of the film at one point.

“Were there any that didn’t get cut? I’m asking you, were there any that didn’t get cut? There were so many scenes that got cut from the movie, I couldn’t even start,” Leto told IGN. “I think that the Joker… we did a lot of experimentation on the set, we explored a lot. There’s so much that we shot that’s not in the film.

“If I die anytime soon, it’s probably likely that it’ll surface somewhere," Leto says. "That’s the good news about the death of an actor is all that stuff seems to come out.”

“I think that I brought so much to the table in every scene that it was probably more about filtering all of the insanity, because I wanted to give a lot of options," Leto tells BBC Radio 5. "I think there’s probably enough footage in this film for a Joker movie. If I were to die tomorrow, maybe the studio would roll something out."

"I always wished this film was Rated R, and I had actually said that when we were starting that if a film was ever going to be rated R it should be the one about the villains," he says.

Jared Leto Says If He Dies Then Cut Joker Scenes From Suicide Squad Will Probably Surface

 

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Update: August 5, 2016

Zack Snyder Revealed to Have Directed a Scene in SUICIDE SQUAD

[Minor spoilers ahead] In Suicide Squad, a flashback scene shows how Jai Courtney’s Captain Boomerang was captured by Ezra Miller’s The Flash who thwarted Boomerang’s in-progress bank robbery. The cameo was a nice surprise for fans and a further piece of connective tissue to the DC Extended Universe as a whole, but that particular portion of the scene in question wasn’t directed by David Ayer.

At the recent Suicide Squad press day in New York, Collider sat down with Ayer for an interview, and during the course of the conversation Ayer revealed that the scene was always in the movie, but was shot in London:

“Flash was always in the movie, we just got lucky because Justice League was happening and they had the uniform, they had the assets, so we were able to get that photography.”

Ayer added that the scene was shot while they were in post-production on Suicide Squad, and when Steve asked if it was directed by Snyder, Ayer confirmed that indeed, the Batman v Superman helmer was behind the camera for that specific moment.

Surprise! 'Batman v Superman's Zack Snyder Directed a Scene in ‘Suicide Squad’

 

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Update: August 4, 2016

SUICIDE SQUAD Unlikely to Be Released in China, Yet to Receive a Release Date

David Ayer's Suicide Squad is set to hit theaters around the globe this weekend, but the world's most populous nation — and No. 2 movie market — probably won't be joining the party anytime soon.

The Warner Bros. tentpole has yet to receive a release date in China, and sources close to the decision-making process in Beijing say it appears increasingly unlikely to get the official nod.

According to people familiar with the matter, China Film Group, the state-backed distributor that handles the import of all foreign films, hasn't put the movie on its internal release calendar, which is typically set at least two months in advance. "They think this is not a good film to release in China," a Chinese executive said without elaborating.

Chinese DC fans have been speculating online for months about whether Suicide Squad would get past Beijing's censorship committee. Thanks to its friendlier PG-13 rating, the movie had raised hopes that it would escape the fate of Fox's similarly toned "anti-superhero" hit Deadpool, which was effectively precluded from release in China due to its violence and graphic language.

Not surprisingly, Warner Bros. tweaked Suicide Squad's local-language title. In Chinese, it's "X特遣队," which translates to "Special Task Force X" (X marks the suicide, it would seem). Many have wondered whether the movie's dark and anarchic tone would still rub the censors the wrong way, though.

China's official censorship guidelines state that stories "propagating passive or negative outlook on life, worldview and value system" are disallowed. Exactly how that applies to comic book baddies turned snarky world saviors remains to be seen.

The Chinese box office has become an increasingly important piece of the international distribution map for the big six Hollywood studios. Suicide Squad cost at least $175 million to make. The biggest Hollywood films in China so far this year are Disney's Zootopia at $235.5 million, Legendary Entertainment's Warcraftwith $221 million and Marvel/Disney's Captain America: Civil War with $190.4 million.

'Warner Bros.' 'Suicide Squad' Unlikely to Get China Release - Exclusive

 

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Update: August 3, 2016

SUICIDE SQUAD's Rushed Production, High Anxiety Drama and Alternate Cuts Revealed

Warners chief Kevin Tsujihara announced the Suicide Squad project in October 2014 as part of a slate of 10 DC films stretching into 2020. Though the studio believed there was enough time to get the movie done, a source with ties to the project says it was a sprint from the start. "[David Ayer] wrote the script in like, six weeks, and they just went," he says, arguing that the whole process would have benefited if Ayer, 48, had been given more time to work.

But another source closely involved with the film says once it was dated, pushing back the release was not an option: "It's not just that you've told the public the movie is coming, you've made huge deals around the world with huge branding partners, with merchandise partners. It's a really big deal to move a tentpole date."

In Ayer, Warner Bros. enlisted a director who had never made a giant, effects-packed action movie. Hiring filmmakers who lack such experience is the trend, and it's often out of necessity. "There are a lot of people who don't want to direct those movies and that's a huge problem," says one producer with franchise experience. Seasoned directors are expensive, meaning studios turn to those with less experience, relying on instinct that they will be up to the job.

A source with knowledge of events says Warners executives, nervous from the start, grew more anxious after they were blindsided and deeply rattled by the tepid response to Batman v Superman. "Kevin was really pissed about damage to the brand," says one executive close to the studio. A key concern for Warners executives was that Suicide Squad didn't deliver on the fun, edgy tone promised in the strong teaser trailer for the film. So while Ayer pursued his original vision, Warners set about working on a different cut, with an assist from Trailer Park, the company that had made the teaser.

By the time the film was done, multiple editors had been brought into the process, though only John Gilroy is credited. (A source says he left by the end of the process and that the final editor was Michael Tronick.) "When you have big tentpoles and time pressure, you pull in resources from every which way you can," says this source. "You can't do it the way it used to be, with one editor and one assistant editor."

In May, Ayer's more somber version and a lighter, studio-favored version were tested with audiences in Northern California. "If there are multiple opinions that aren't in sync, you go down multiple tracks — two tracks at least," says an insider. "That was the case here for a period of time, always trying to get to a place where you have consensus." Those associated with the film insist Ayer agreed to and participated in the process. Once feedback on the two versions was analyzed, it became clear it was possible to get to "a very common-ground place." (The studio-favored version with more characters introduced early in the film and jazzed-up graphics won.) Getting to that place of consensus, however, required millions of dollars' worth of additional photography.

Other sources describe a fraught process — one cites "a lot of panic and ego instead of calmly addressing the tonal issue." Clearly all wasn't sitting right with Ayer, who in June suddenly dropped his longtime agent at CAA and defected to WME, though the agency won him back in a day. "He was under a lot — a lot — of pressure," says one person with knowledge of the situation, arguing that Ayer was exhausted and needed time to process conflicting ideas.

On the day of the premiere, one insider fretted about whether Suicide Squad would mirror BvS' huge opening and weak legs. Another veteran says the goal is survival: "The movie's got to do $750 million, $800 million to break even. If they get anywhere close to that, they'll consider it a win."

'Suicide Squad's' Secret Drama: Rushed Production, Competing Cuts, High Anxiety

 

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Update: August 2, 2016

DC Fans Start Petition to Shut Down Rotten Tomatoes Over Negative DC Movie Reviews

If you follow movie news or movie reviews at all – if you’re reading this, chances are that you do – you’ve almost certainly heard by now that the first wave of reviews for Suicide Squad are not exactly glowing. Todd McCarthy, Variety’s erstwhile top critic and noted film-book author, dismissed the movie on several levels, while New York Magazine’s David Edelstein criticized the film’s “muddled storytelling.” The mostly negative appraisals mixed with a not-ignorable amount of positive reactions to come up with a 34% on Rotten Tomatoes, making it certified rotten. And that’s when the tizzies began.

A petition has been posted to Change.org demanding that Rotten Tomatoes be shut down over all of this. It’s really hard to concisely explain just how intensely idiotic all of this is.

The petition’s description reads:

"We need this site to be shut down because It's Critics always give The DC Extended Universe movies unjust Bad Reviews, Like

1- Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice 2016

2- Suicide Squad 2016

and that Affects people's opinion even if it's a really great movies"

Rotten Tomatoes’ algorithm isn’t perfect but even if it was, it’s worth remembering that these are personal opinions expressed by individuals, not some widespread sanctioned condemnation spearheaded by Rotten Tomatoes and Marvel Studios on the low. This really should be self-explanatory, but just because you are not in agreeance with the critical consensus does not mean you’re wrong or right.

What’s worse, many of those who are kicking up a fuss haven’t even seen Suicide Squad yet but feel like they must stand up and defend their beloved DC brand against an entirely imagined anti-DC narrative they’ve concocted.

DC Fans Start Petition Demanding Rotten Tomatoes Be Shut Down Over Negative DC Movie Reviews

 

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Critics' Reviews for SUICIDE SQUAD

Rotten Tomatoes: 26% Approval Rating (63 out of 184 critics like it)

Critics Consensus: Suicide Squad boasts a talented cast and a little more humor than previous DCEU efforts, but they aren't enough to save the disappointing end result from a muddled plot, thinly written characters, and choppy directing.

Newark Star-Ledger - Admitted, even with its flaws, at least "Suicide Squad" is trying to give diehard fans the kind of comic-book movie they've been waiting for this summer – bizarre characters, great costumes, fistfights and firepower and the usual leave-a-city-in-ruins ending. But, sorry, as far as movies about superhero supergroups go? The Guardians, and the Avengers, still have these jokers beat.
2.5/4

Entertainment Weekly - Suicide Squad kicks off with fizzy, punk-rock ferocity before turning flat and spiraling into familiar formulas. For DC, which blew it with Batman v Superman last spring, Suicide Squad is a small step forward. But it could have been a giant leap. B-

New York Daily News - The biggest problem with the movie is that, despite all the villains, the main antagonist — wisely hidden in the advertising — is as ridiculously silly as something out of "Ghostbusters 2." Fans will probably appreciate "Suicide Squad" for trying something different — and it gets bonus points for diversity — but the weaker characters and generally weak plot keep it from being one of the better comic book movies. 3/5

Rolling Stone - Who stole the soul of Suicide Squad? I'd say it's Ayer's willingness to go all limp-dick and compromise his hardcore action bona fides for a PG-13 crowdpleaser that would rather ingratiate than cut deep, or even cut at all. Forget Batman v Superman — at least it tried. This botch job makes Fantastic Four look good. 1/4

James Berardinelli - This movie feels all-too-much like Batman v Superman while unspooling with the inelegance of X-Men: Apocalypse. It gets props for kinetic energy, bursts of suspense, and a couple of bravura performances (Will Smith & Margot Robbie). But pretty much everything else is either mediocre or substandard and that makes it hard to champion this bloated and cheerless monstrosity. 5.9/10

 

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Update: July 28, 2016

Second Justice League Member Confirmed to Appear in SUICIDE SQUAD

We knew there would be one Justice Leaguer in Suicide Squad from its trailers and interviews but a second member of the team will be making an appearance in the film according to its cast list.

We know full well that Batman is going to appear in the David Ayer film, though he isn't credited in the official list from Warner Brothers. However, the same list which is leaving Ben Affleck's Bruce Wayne out is including one of his soon-to-be buddies.

Warning! Some will consider this a spoiler for Suicide Squad! Continue only if you want to know which other member of the Justice League will cameo in Suicide Squad! You've been warned.

According to the final cast list, Ezra Miller's The Flash will be making an appearance in Suicide Squad. The cast list is in order of appearance in the film, indicating that The Flash will make his cameo after Captain Boomerang debuts on the screen. This backs up the popular theory from certain trailers that the scenes showing Captain Boomerang surrounded by lightning are actually him being caught by The Flash and eventually jailed.

Second Justice League Member Revealed To Appear In Suicide Squad

 

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Update: May 16, 2016

Harley Quinn Spinoff Movie in the Works Starring Margot Robbie

Months ahead of the opening of Suicide Squad, Warner Bros. is already contemplating a spinoff for the DC Entertainment anti-heroine, Harley Quinn. Margot Robbie, who stars as the villainess in Suicide Squad, is attached to reprise the character and would also produce the untitled spinoff, THR has learned.

But in an interesting twist, the project is not a Quinn solo movie. Rather, it would focus on several of DC’s female heroes and villains. Details are being closely guarded but names such as Batgirl and Birds of Prey have surfaced, although in what capacity, it’s not clear. Warner Bros. isn’t commenting. There is also a scribe penning the script but those details, too, are being kept secret, although it is known that the writer is female.

DC has a very strong stable of heroines and villainesses and has been focusing on those characters with the rise of its female readership and fanbase. It recently introduced DC SuperHero Girls, a line of comics and products targeting the young female demographic. The characters getting the spotlight include Quinn, Batgirl, Batman villainess Poison Ivy, Katana (Quinn’s fellow member of the Suicide Squad) and Bumblebee, who can fly and shrink.

Sources say that Robbie was the impetus for the project, adding that when she got the part for the movie, she dove deep into the comics to learn as much as possible about the character. In the process, she fell for DC’s female characters. She brought on the writer to help develop the project and brought it to Warners, which snapped it up.

A Quinn-centered movie is a no-brainer for Warners. The character was created by writer Paul Dini and was initially a sidekick and girlfriend to the Joker. But to the surprise of many, she caught the imagination of fans, who have propelled her to star status. While she may not have the stature and deep roots of DC's Wonder Woman, Quinn's books outsell the Amazonian's and her merchandise is also a top seller.

Robbie is well-established at Warners, where she previously starred with Will Smith in 2015 caper flick Focus and plays Jane in this summer's The Legend of Tarzan.

Harley Quinn Movie in the Works at Warner Bros. With Margot Robbie (Exclusive)

 

[hughesfan20]

I thought this movie was good but it had the potential to be great and missed the mark. When you watch this movie, it's obvious a lot of the Joker scenes were cut and whoever DC is getting to edit these movies needs to be replaced.

One of my biggest gripes is, the team was sent in for a specific purpose. I don't want to reveal what that purpose was but for those of us who watched it, when they got to that part in the movie, as they were about to get there it felt like we were getting a major surprise and then it fell.

The 3rd act of the movie basically tried to recoup all the momentum and I'll be fair did a so so job of doing so but it's a hard thing to do when the momentum hits that critical point in the 2nd act and pops.

I really hope that there is an extended cut of this movie that gets released cause the performances by the actors were top notch, the chemistry was awesome, the Joker especially wow was fantastic but they were done a disservice by the theatrical version of this movie.

DC needs to take a step back, sit down and have a cohesive strategy going forward cause I think they've used up all the leeway fans intend on giving them. Wonder Woman is really going to have to be a masterpiece to pick up the momentum for the Justice League movies to deliver the financial returns WB is hoping for.

 

[Andersons Foot]

Just got back from watching this, it really wasn't as bad as some of the posts here say it is. It wasn't a great movie whatsoever IMO, but it wasn't terrible. I think most of the actors did a great job, i loved Harley especially. I think the guy that played Flag was so-so. I warmed up to Leto's Joker the more screen time he got, he is still nowhere near Ledger's Joker.

6.7/10

 

[mixmastermo]

Saw it yesterday. Here's my review:

It felt like a 2 hour long music video.

Not annoying or boring like BvS was, but not exactly thrilling, edge of your seat entertainment like GotG or Captain America Civil War.

Glad I saw it though. I'm not going to write off DCEU yet

 

[TheRuthlessOne]

I'm not a fan of these guys but holy shit this one was really funny

 

[heavyarms21]

I'm not a fan of these guys but holy shit this one was really funny

It's funny with the GOTG reference and music, Gunn integrated iconic music in his flick and While not terrible , Sucide Squad was very hit and miss with th e music.

 

[M3t4tr0n]

Jared from Subway would have made a better Joker tbh

 

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Link to previous thread:

http://forums.sherdog.com/posts/119878993/

 

[UltimateMoving]

This movie was cliche as hell , and basically a Will Smith vehicle , the music didnt match and the actors/actresses were pretty unlikeable. Some of the dialogue was cringe worthy and some of the scenes downright disturbing(not in a cool way).

 

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Update: August 7, 2016

All Easter Eggs, Cameos and References for SUICIDE SQUAD