Opinion Student Loan Debate: SCOTUS strikes down Biden sweeping debt forgiveness order

Which plan do you currently agree with most? (if not exact to your position, explain in a post)

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Limbo Pete said:
The whole "government can't be trusted" thing might sound in your ears like a clever sort of rhetorical end-run, but it actually makes no sense lol certainly not related to this topic. The government isn't actually the issue, it's hyper partisan voters attempting to punish their perceived social/political opposition on an easily trollable issue. We all "trust" the government every day; that loose, undefined concept had no real value of any sort here lol
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I disagree man. I don’t think the government can be trusted for these things. This is just another example.
 
markg171 said:
Lmfao.

Why would an unelected official get to tell an elected official what’s classified or not?

You’ve got it completely backwards mate. The unelected security officials authority is derived from the elected executive, not the other way around. They bestow it on subordinates, not random staffers tell Presidents what they can do.

Yes, the unelected official answers to the elected one. Jesus Christ, what a mess that people actually think this nonsense. If the majority of a country gives you authority yes you have the power, not some random security staffer who didn’t receive millions of votes.
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.....ooooookey dokey

Unrelated: did TSA give you a hard time recently?
 
Rob Battisti said:
Pay off hundreds of millions of dollars of student loans
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Even if the word "trust" did apply here, which it doesn't, it would only be relevant for people that already had pslf payment structures, which most borrowers don't anyway. And in that case, the issue isn't misplaced trust in the "government", it's their fellow citizens wesponizing the issue as a hyper partisan turd sandwich
 
Limbo Pete said:
.....ooooookey dokey

Unrelated: did TSA give you a hard time recently?
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You’re a moron. TSA power is derived from elected officials. Not the other way around.

If the majority of the country vote Bum Fuck is our executive, no random John Smith in TSA or whatever doesn’t get to override him.

Fucking hell. Where do you think random government officials power come from?
 
Limbo Pete said:
Even if the word "trust" did apply here, which it doesn't, it would only be relevant for people that already had pslf payment structures, which most borrowers don't anyway. And in that case, the issue isn't misplaced trust in the "government", it's their fellow citizens wesponizing the issue as a hyper partisan turd sandwich
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This applies to anyone entering an agreement with the government to forgive loans for any reason.
 
Rob Battisti said:
This applies to anyone entering an agreement with the government to forgive loans for any reason.
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Income based repayment plans aren't forgiveness. And again, it's not a matter of trust; this is a function of choice made by voters. It's not like the weather, or a shady backroom deal gone awry lol
 
markg171 said:
You’re a moron. TSA power is derived from elected officials. Not the other way around.

If the majority of the country vote Bum Fuck is our executive, no random John Smith in TSA or whatever doesn’t get to override him.

Fucking hell. Where do you think random government officials power come from?
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I'm gonna make the same recommendation to you I gave another person in here earlier: drink some eggnog or something, dude
 
Limbo Pete said:
I'm gonna make the same recommendation to you I gave another person in here earlier: drink some eggnog or something, dude
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You still have not given any reason why a random unelected official gets to dictate security to the actual elected official.

You are the fascist.
 
Limbo Pete said:
Income based repayment plans aren't forgiveness. And again, it's not a matter of trust; this is a function of choice made by voters. It's not like the weather, or a shady backroom deal gone awry lol
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I’m saying any kind of plan that isn’t paying it off yourself and relies on other means isn’t to be trusted. It’s a negative in all regards.
 
Rob Battisti said:
I’m saying any kind of plan that isn’t paying it off yourself and relies on other means isn’t to be trusted. It’s a negative in all regards.
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Again though the word trust is so broad it's essentially meaningless. Our entire country is filled with people working for, with, or through some element of government process. Unless you're a super hermit living totally off the grid, there's some kind of service reliance, and financial shit is extremely normal. Saying "don't trust the government" is a statement which means nothing outside itself.
 
Limbo Pete said:
Right yeah uh huh
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We’re all waiting for you to tell us how and why the random unelected staffer should have more say than the actual elected one we all voted for to have literally that power.

Let me guess: you’re one of the unelected guys who’ve been abusing their power for years
 
Rob Battisti said:
Both my parents were dead by the time I was 20. I worked my way through college, cared for my grandparents who died by the time I was 21. Had a full academic scholarship and worked my way up from a 30k a year job to leading global teams for the biggest companies in the world. I had no disposable income and only inherited debt.

My only privilege was that I wasn’t a piece of shit, like you.
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If any of that was true you wouldn't be a agit head
 
markg171 said:
We’re all waiting for you to tell us how and why the random unelected staffer should have more say than the actual elected one we all voted for to have literally that power.

Let me guess: you’re one of the unelected guys who’ve been abusing their power for years
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I'm sure everyone is waiting with baited breath for you to resist understanding the base importance of background checks lol
 
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