Strikeforce has created a hell of a stir in the UFC

[Dontevenguess93]

Mousasi looked outstanding tonight, in addition to Rockhold and Jacare who are already contenders at Middleweight. Think about it

Werdum is fighting for the heavyweight title.

Cormier will likely get a shot at LHW.

Lawler shook up welterweight and has become one of their scariest fighters. He already got a title shot and may very well get another.

Melendez is fighting for the lightweight title.

Pretty crazy when you think all of these guys crossed over when the organization laid an egg and now they are contenders in every division 155 and up.

 

[Uncommon Valor]

WEC, too.

 

[DLX]

Lawler was in the UFC first

and so was Fabricio...

 

[Abalone]

Cain Velasquez had his first fight in strikeforce

 

[seeyouaunty]

Lawler was in the UFC first

and so was Fabricio...

You wanna play that game? Ok, Velasquez was in strikeforce first.

 

[servel20]

Mousasi looked outstanding tonight, in addition to Rockhold and Jacare who are already contenders at Middleweight. Think about it

Werdum is fighting for the heavyweight title.

Cormier will likely get a shot at LHW.

Lawler shook up welterweight and has become one of their scariest fighters. He already got a title shot and may very well get another.

Melendez is fighting for the lightweight title.

Pretty crazy when you think all of these guys crossed over when the organization laid an egg and now they are contenders in every division 155 and up.

Wait, haven't you heard that any fighters outside of the UFC are garbage?

Didn't Dana Call it Strikefarce before?

Now sheeps say Bellator fighters suck balls. Lol

I agree TS, any advancement in the depth of weight classes makes it more competitive, DC, Rockhold, Jacare, Mousasi, Lawler and even Big Foot have carved their nice piece of UFC pie.

 

[Zarathustra]

You wanna play that game? Ok, Velasquez was in strikeforce first.

Haha owned.

 

[Freddy Mercury]

Lawler was in the UFC first

and so was Fabricio...

So what? The point TS is making is this. When Strikeforce ended, its top fighters were equal to UFC's top fighters.

 

[DLX]

You wanna play that game? Ok, Velasquez was in strikeforce first.

...so?

 

[servel20]

You wanna play that game? Ok, Velasquez was in strikeforce first.

Owned lol

 

[Elmonstro1]

You wanna play that game? Ok, Velasquez was in strikeforce first.

Nice

 

[Bob Sapp Junior]

Don't forget the Punk, he's doing great too.

 

[aker2703]

You wanna play that game? Ok, Velasquez was in strikeforce first.

you wanna play games....lets look at the guys listed and see what their first main promotion was

Gil - WEC
Jacare - Dream
Werdum - Pride
Gegard - Pride
Lawler - UFC


so Strikeforce have
DC
Rockhold

so if you want to play games....Strikeforce only have two guys.


on the TS topic...yes the top Strikeforce guys at the time of the merger have done well.

 

[jmd69]

Agree with TS...some haterade going on...and don't forget Kennedy who everyone wrote off from the start. (IFL before Strikeforce if anyone decides to play the reindeer game haha).

 

[branchtan]

you wanna play games....lets look at the guys listed and see what their first main promotion was

Gil - WEC
Jacare - Dream
Werdum - Pride
Gegard - Pride
Lawler - UFC


so Strikeforce have
DC
Rockhold

so if you want to play games....Strikeforce only have two guys.


on the TS topic...yes the top Strikeforce guys at the time of the merger have done well.

lol at your shit argument fail

 

[stav]

Mousasi looked outstanding tonight, in addition to Rockhold and Jacare who are already contenders at Middleweight. Think about it

Werdum is fighting for the heavyweight title.

Cormier will likely get a shot at LHW.

Lawler shook up welterweight and has become one of their scariest fighters. He already got a title shot and may very well get another.

Melendez is fighting for the lightweight title.

Pretty crazy when you think all of these guys crossed over when the organization laid an egg and now they are contenders in every division 155 and up.

-Rockhold almost had his head separated from his body by from Belfort, but i agree he is a solid contender in the division and bounced back well.

-Werdum was in the UFC b4 Strikeforce and did well despite getting raped by JDS and has looked very impressive but he has been a top HW from the Pride days.

- Mouse was proclaimed the uncrowned simultaneous LHW and MW champ of the world by sherdog and had nothing for Machida. Sherdog shit's on Machida's win over Munoz and he is an undeserving title contender at MW but ppl are all over Mouses nuts once again when he wins.

-Jacre is impressive and is a real contender. They need to up his level of competition to really test him.

-Lawler was in the UFC with mixed results b4 he went to Strikeforce. He has turned his career around and is looking like a boss. Its good for him.

-Cormier is looking like a Boss as well. Really great addition to LHW.

Need to call it as it is.

I don't think anyone doubted there was good talent outside of the UFC pre strikeforce purchase but they are not the uncrowned champs of their divisions like many tough they would be.

Also you forgot Kennedy, He is a good addition to the MW roster.

 

[DLX]

So what? The point TS is making is this. When Strikeforce ended, its top fighters were equal to UFC's top fighters.

All I'm saying is if you're going to talk about the impact that Strikeforce guys have made in the UFC, at least avoid examples of guys that were already in the UFC before Strikeforce.










But I do agree overall that Strikeforce guys have made a big impact in the UFC. And that UFC doesn't have every good fighter on the planet. Anybody with brain knows that...

 

[xP]

Strikeforce is the b-league remember?.

Some people still haven't learned their lesson and are doing the same thing to Bellator.

The top handful of fighters from 145 and 155 in Bellator would all be in contention for the belt. Douglas Lima is a beast too.

 

[aker2703]

lol at your shit argument fail

lol at someone who doesn't say why the shit argument is a fail. you told me.....oh wait, you said nothing at all.

 

[cgf]

Can't we just enjoy the exciting fighters that the UFC has added from that organization? So many fun fighters that have come over form there, I wonder if part of it is them feeling they need to get finishes and having exciting fights more than what they perceive as Dana's guys do, to get the same kind of respect and love. Cause outside of DC, who did feel the love from dana from the get go, all of these guys have been extremely aggressive in their UFC careers.

All I'm saying is if you're going to talk about the impact that Strikeforce guys have made in the UFC, at least avoid examples of guys that were already in the UFC before Strikeforce.

Why? A guy like Lawler clearly made significant steps in his time at strikeforce that have helped him take his abilities to another level where he's one of the most talented and entertaining fighters in his division. Jacare may have started in Japan but his standup developed massively between then and his arrival in the UFC, a lot of that happening during his time in SF. Same for Werdum, the Werdum from Pride could never have tooled Browne on the feet like we just saw, and much of that progress happened in SF.

Not saying it was being in SF that did it, but these guys were very different fighters when they came ot the UFC from SF than the fighters they were when they went to SF.