Straight ankle lock from back mount?!

[1PBCE1]

I train BJJ with a 6ft6, 140kg Judo Black Belt. He is also a powerlifter, so basically a bit of a beast. I'm 6ft5 115kg Blue Belt however so I can handle him (almost), and quite often find myself taking his back and flattening him out, due to him turtling a lot.

Trying to choke him though is impossible, trying to move to an armbar is crazy as it gives him top position and that's game over, but I'm wondering if I've got him flattened out, is there a way to quickly move to the legs and go for a straight ankle lock? Previously a straight ankle lock is the only way I've tapped him.

 

[Dirty Holt]

If you have his back with at least 1 hook, you have instant access to at least 3 leg locks and the twister from the truck:

Banana split
Calf slice
Vaporizer - Not instant but its there
Twister

 

[EGDM]

If you have his back with at least 1 hook, you have instant access to at least 3 leg locks and the twister from the truck:

Banana split
Calf slice
Vaporizer - Not instant but its there
Twister

Please, please, practice these in a controlled way under supervision before trying them out for the first time in cross-disciplinary sparring against a guy who doesn't understand leg locks.

Edit: Misread. If this is all in a BJJ school then go forth and do whatever, according to the norms of your school.

 

[TheGZA]

Please, please, practice these in a controlled way under supervision before trying them out for the first time in cross-disciplinary sparring against a guy who doesn't understand leg locks.

Edit: Misread. If this is all in a BJJ school then go forth and do whatever, according to the norms of your school.

Only BJJ understands the holy mysteries of the banana split. LOL

 

[EGDM]

Only BJJ understands the holy mysteries of the banana split. LOL

I was mostly referring to surprising someone with a calf slicer or vaporizer. =)

 

[winterbike]

Must be quite a sight to see you huge monsters grapple!

 

[MrBen]

At 0:53 and 1:56 there are some examples of attacking the leg when going against the turtle.

 

[selfcritical]

Igor Kurinnoy made a habit of attacking ankle locks from top turtle that worked pretty well. I'll see if i can find a video, but i don't speak a lick of russian so that's just a maybe.

 

[cjd]

Vlad Koulikov teaches the ankle lock against turtle on "illegal leg locks"

 

[BJJ_Rage]

At 0:53 and 1:56 there are some examples of attacking the leg when going against the turtle.

That was a beutiful hl, thanks

 

[rmongler]

At 0:53 and 1:56 there are some examples of attacking the leg when going against the turtle.

I had to replay the 0:53 sequence a few extra times to let it sink in properly.

 

[jcandoitbig]

That was a beutiful hl, thanks

2:05 though.....