Stipe wouldn't even survive during Fedor's era

[LilNicky95]

CroCop got KTFO by Gonzaga well within his prime, and owned by Kongo too.

Stop making excuses, he got exposed.

So like 15 years into the career of a brutal combat sport, one hits their prime?

Tell me more genius....

 

[LilNicky95]

Stipe is the greatest heavyweight fighter we’ve ever seen in this sport

No likes.

 

[beroisimo**]

The rose tinted glasses pride guys are quite annoying aren’t they.

Are they ever dude

 

[Bamboozled]

No he dixn't.

You're a fucking idiot if you didn't recognize this as the championship

 

[Dirge]

So why are noobs acting like if he was the GOAT HW ? For sake he'd lost to big Nog or Mirko 10/10.

The result is pretty fresh so I understand the fervor but please let's not forget what the real GOAT has accomplished.

Fedor would have never go life and death with 5'8 Cormier and he would have zulu'd Franck in one round without having to hold for his life during 25 minutes.

Edit : some peoples are accusing me of trolling. My title thread may be exagerated so I'll bring some shade. Stipe could be a solid top 10 fighter but honestly I can't see him doing better. The ring wouldn't be good for him. For exemple he couldn't apply his gameplan for Ngannou under the Pride rules.

Yes because Big Nog had crappy striking and minimal (as in zero) takedown abilities. Stipe would maul him on the feet. That's why big nog liked to pull guard similar to old school werdum in order to get the fight where he was best.

Crocrop on the other hand had crappy TDD. All the striking in the world won't help a kick boxer when he is laying on his back and Stipe has already demonstrated how good his wrestling is.

Unless of course you think Crocrop hits harder than Ngannou....

Gotta love these threads that are cropping up. Setting aside that 99% of the prime Pride guys would be pissing hot walking to a USADA test.

Stipe is already 5 years older than Fedor was when he started losing. And sure we can talk about mileage but if you subtract the 20 or so can smashes that Fedor had, fights where he was in zero risk of damage, he's in the same range of relevant fights that Stipe has had against guys that could actually hurt you.

Besides why is this even a topic? Pride is long dead bud and the juicers that were its superstars did not fare well in the UFC with a couple of exceptions.

 

[Vehap1]

You do realize Stipe finished fighters who Fedor freaking refused to fight xD

Edit: Ok it was Ubereem and not Alistair Overeem,
but stil

 

[gono btw]

Yes because Big Nog had crappy striking and minimal (as in zero) takedown abilities

That's why big nog liked to pull guard similar to old school werdum in order to get the fight where he was best.

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Spoiler

 

[Bamboozled]

Yes because Big Nog had crappy striking and minimal (as in zero) takedown abilities. Stipe would maul him on the feet. That's why big nog liked to pull guard similar to old school werdum in order to get the fight where he was best.

Crocrop on the other hand had crappy TDD. All the striking in the world won't help a kick boxer when he is laying on his back and Stipe has already demonstrated how good his wrestling is.

Unless of course you think Crocrop hits harder than Ngannou....

Gotta love these threads that are cropping up. Setting aside that 99% of the prime Pride guys would be pissing hot walking to a USADA test.

Stipe is already 5 years older than Fedor was when he started losing. And sure we can talk about mileage but if you subtract the 20 or so can smashes that Fedor had, fights where he was in zero risk of damage, he's in the same range of relevant fights that Stipe has had against guys that could actually hurt you.

Besides why is this even a topic? Pride is long dead bud and the juicers that were its superstars did not fare well in the UFC with a couple of exceptions.

This is one of the most absurd shitty takes in the history of sherdog, and you're a TUF n00b on top of it. I'm not surprised you say such dumb shit. You never liked to learn about the sport, you liked melodrama and low IQ TV

Nog seemed just fine out striking almost everyone not name Fedor or CC, or holding up against them, he had some sick trips and throws too if you ever actually watched his fights. He did well staying on his feet vs "great" wrestlers like Couture etc.

Cro Cop while he had his issues shrugged off great wrestlers consistently

 

[WHITE ANDERSON]

the only reason stipe would lose is because the PRIDE gloves make it impossible to land eyepokes

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Isn’t it a coincidence that Fedor was suddenly “out of his prime” when he got to Strikeforce and lost to 3 guys that were more dangerous than 95% of the Comp he faced in Pride, M-1 or Rings? Seems like most of the Pride HW guys were suddenly “past it“ when they moved on to other promotions and started losing.

Werdum and Hendo were both ex Pride fighters and they both lost multiple times in Pride, the idea they represented an improvement in comp seems pretty flimsy to me.

If Fedor was going to start losing when he stepped outside his Pride environment because the comp was better in the UFC it would have been to Sylvia and Arlovski.

 

[Dbreiden83080]

Sure he does, Stipe was 29 and right at his peak.

First pro fight was at 27..

 

[weaselkenievil]

Cro cop, Nog, Fedor, Stipe - All suck, exposed etc

sherdoggers you are dicks.

 

[JsinLegacy]

These threads are getting ridiculous. Every time Stipe fights and wins there is always these threads. The dude can't get any respect from some people it seems.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

Crocrop on the other hand had crappy TDD.

If your going to take nonsense to this level why not just leave reality behind?

Nog only had one arm, Crocop was only 8 inchs tall, Fedor was just a wooden statue, etc.

 

[Dirge]

This is one of the most absurd shitty takes in the history of sherdog, and you're a TUF n00b on top of it. I'm not surprised you say such dumb shit. You never liked to learn about the sport, you liked melodrama and low IQ TV

Nog seemed just fine out striking almost everyone not name Fedor or CC, or holding up against them, he had some sick trips and throws too if you ever actually watched his fights. He did well staying on his feet vs "great" wrestlers like Couture etc.

Cro Cop while he had his issues shrugged off great wrestlers consistently

First off you know where you can put your attitude. Tuf noob... lol you are funny.

Second, how many finishes due to strikes did Big Nog have? I'll give you a hint, it was 3 out of 34 wins. For a 240 pound heavyweight, that's absurdly low by any standard. Michael Bisping who takes a ton of shit for being pillow fisted in his striking (And fought at two weight classes lower) has 18 finishes by strikes out of 30 wins....

Third, his takedown accuracy is just 29% and his TDD sat at 36%. There is a reason fighters feared going to the ground with him and yet didn't seem to be too worried about being taken down.

So just based on facts his wrestling was abyssmal and his striking largely ineffective. Didn't mean he wasn't a great fighter, just not much of a wrestler with very little power.

 

[NotoriousHendo]

So why are noobs acting like if he was the GOAT HW ? For sake he'd lost to big Nog or Mirko 10/10.

The result is pretty fresh so I understand the fervor but please let's not forget what the real GOAT has accomplished.

Fedor would have never go life and death with 5'8 Cormier and he would have zulu'd Franck in one round without having to hold for his life during 25 minutes.

Edit : some peoples are accusing me of trolling. My title thread may be exagerated so I'll bring some shade. Stipe could be a solid top 10 fighter but honestly I can't see him doing better. The ring wouldn't be good for him. For exemple he couldn't apply his gameplan for Ngannou under the Pride rules.

Here is a fact for you. Fedor had a good run in PRIDE with little to no drug testing. When he came to fight in a cage, he was then tested and got knocked out by a middleweight. He was never the same outside of pride
Red flag . His career is an asterisk

 

[Dirge]

If your going to take nonsense to this level why not just leave reality behind?

Nog only had one arm, Crocop was only 8 inchs tall, Fedor was just a wooden statue, etc.

When you get taken down 4 times by Brendan Schaub, I'd say your TDD is not the best.

 

[The XL]

DC would ragdoll Fedor like he did to Hendo. Francis would shrug off Fedors panic takedown attempts and put him in the hospital. Stipe dominated Francis and won 2 out of 3 vs Cormier.

Stipe is easily the HW GOAT. Fedor was losing to middleweights and gatekeeper HWs like Bigfoot(Who DC buried with hilarious ease) when he was only 33/34.

 

[BBMN]

to big Nog or Mirko...

Eh. Mirko lost to Randleman. MMA is unpredictable, especially at Heavyweight. I'm not sure I'm feeling the rest of whatever it is you're about to say.

let's not forget what the real GOAT has accomplished.

Most of us haven't.

 

[Deleted member 110072]

When you get taken down 4 times by Brendan Schaub, I'd say your TDD is not the best.

Years past his best and fighting injuried, in Pride totally shut down Coleman, the first fighter ever to do so.

Seriously even as bias claimed on Sherdog go the idea Mirko had bad takedown defence is pretty out there.

Its the style of argument where persistence and self belief is all it has going for it.