Stipe absorbed 162 significant strikes to the head, DC 86.

[EmbraceTheGrind]

 

[Timmahhhh]

He has been dominant in recent years against others but not against DC, they are 1-1 now. But is he the best/most skilled HW in UFC history? No, I don't think so. I would favor prime Cain and prime JDS against him, maybe prime Arlovski and some others as well. Stipe just happened to peak at the right time, when the last generation had started to decline badly.

You can call him UFC HW GOAT if you want, but only because he has the most title defenses in a weak era.

Cain declined after usada. It may be coincidence but he had unnatural cardio.

 

[listrahtes]

I don't think Stipe or DC are juiced out of their minds. I just don't.
I'm talking no fucks given PRIDE juicing like prime Wanderlei Silva, Mark Coleman, Don fry type shit shit

Stipe or DC would already beat anyone's ass in pride, but if you put them on that level of gym candy they would literally toy with Prime Fedor or Croy-Cop like a cat playing with a mouse.

You are delusional if you dont think the same happens today. Images of Costa and Romero would be your examples of juice monkeys if they would have fought in Pride but no they are in present day UFC. Cejudo underwent a body transformation while in UFC similar to Wanderleis idiotic HW run in Pride. Jones is on hardcore estrogen blockers that only users need that are on brutal amounts of roids for many years. Ngannou has added also an impossible amount of muscle but hey its a black man from africa its in their genetic code <Lmaoo> Its comical.

There is not less PED absuse nowadays but its simply a two class society. The ones who have the means to cheat and are supported when captured and the ones who get a kick in the ass for it.

Who would win with Stipe / DC vs Pride is talked to death and well I dont care much anymore to discuss it. Imo you could have a glimpse of the stand up quality back then when someone like Verhoeven would change into mma but will not happen.

 

[campbecc]

Stipe has taken huge shots from some of the biggest punchers in MMA. He has a very good chin. And DC's fight night weight was 247 he for some strange reason cut weight for a HW fight.

 

[Hatorade]

There is not less PED absuse nowadays .

I believe that there is. Yes, there are still plenty of fighters on PEDs, but not at the level of an organization that straight up allowed it. Come the fuck on man. There' s a difference between fighters using small amounts of PEDs in between fights while trying to cheat the system and fighters that are on everything under the sun that step into the cage mid-cycle looking almost fucking high.

 

[Squintz]

I can’t wait till Ngannou knocks Stipe the Fuck out in the rematch.

 

[listrahtes]

I believe that there is. Yes, there are still plenty of fighters on PEDs, but not at the level of an organization that straight up allowed it. Come the fuck on man. There' s a difference between fighters using small amounts of PEDs in between fights while trying to cheat the system and fighters that are on everything under the sun that step into the cage mid-cycle looking almost fucking high.

How do you get to the fighters back then being all on it. Yoki Kondo, Sakuraba ? And nowadays "small amounts" sorry you are joking. We have big teams that organize massive ped abuse. ATT at the forefront. These guys are not less on PEDs. Aldo had a drug tester escorted Out..etc and Jones is on hardcore roid cycles like they do in pro bodybuilding. You seriously underestimate whats going on. Epo, insulin,roids,blood Doping,IVs...

It has to be more sophisticated nowadays thats it. Costa is near as inflated as Monster Wanderlei at HW Back then. Ngannou is a joke in itself....etc. we havent even talkrd about diuretics etc. Look up at what in cage weight MWs did Fight Back then and nowadays

 

[frederick]

lol @ people downplaying Stipe's performance by calling DC an old fat guy, and the likes. This "old fat guy" was in serious contention for GOAT hw a day ago.

No shit Stipe had his difficulties.

Even an old fat DC is pretty formidable. But he did seem to get noticeably older and slower since his last fight.

 

[Hatorade]

How do you get to the fighters back then being all on it. Yoki Kondo, Sakuraba ? And nowadays "small amounts" sorry you are joking. We have big teams that organize massive ped abuse. ATT at the forefront. These guys are not less on PEDs. Aldo had a drug tester escorted Out..etc and Jones is on hardcore roid cycles like they do in pro bodybuilding. You seriously underestimate whats going on. Epo, insulin,roids,blood Doping,IVs...

It has to be more sophisticated nowadays thats it. Costa is near as inflated as Monster Wanderlei at HW Back then. Ngannou is a joke in itself....etc. we havent even talkrd about diuretics etc. Look up at what in cage weight MWs did Fight Back then and nowadays

Watch their fights the second they started getting tested. Also, why wouldn't they?

Most of the top PRIDE era guys were still doing shit in the states and a lot of them eventually got busted, but a big reason a lot of them were doing it is because they had to at that point from abusing it too hard when it was completely wide open. The problem is that taking juice for most of these fighters at that point was just to make it so they could still compete and not to turn them into the wrecking machines they were in Japan.

And yes, most of the guys using that get popped these days aren't going overboard with the shit because the type of testing in place makes that almost impossible to get away with now. Once again. preparing for a fight out of camp with PEDs and walking into the cage juiced to the gills mid-cycle is two completely different
animals. I fell like you've never done steroids.

 

[pride_is_back]

Patty cake strikes. Just shows how much of a fluke the first win was. DC fanboys are just as pathetic as Jones'.