Social Steven crowder demonetized

[nac386]

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Lol. So, you just realized I never said it. Let's look at your claim again:

You're so much better than us . . . it burns.

I said Crowder caters to his audience (lowest common denominator, etc.) like every other comedian. My opinion.

You provided a list of comedians you deemed above that. Your opinion.

Then you decided to say that I equated Crowder to Carlin. I said I didn't. How did I misinterpret that?

I mean, you never miss an opportunity to give it up to yourself . . . but still. This is a weird flex. Even for you.

So, after I gave a list of comedians that do not cater to the "lowest denominator" which was apparently fine, then I decided to say you equated Crowder to Carlin? Show me that post. Spoiler, it doesn't exist. When you see a question mark, that means it's a question.

When you say that all comedians cater to the lowest denominator, you are including all the people I listed in that statement. They are all comedians. So my response is, those people that I listed are all catering to the lowest denominator like Crowder too? When you watch those comedians, you come away thinking they are just pandering to the easy targets?

 

[cincymma79]

This is one of those strange (but not unusual) Sherdog moments where I'm talking to two people continue to make absolutely no sense simply because they are being supported by another nonsensical poster.

Spam, go back and read our posts. You seem to have completely misinterpreted a very, very clear exchange.

Cincy, I honestly don't think you have the ability to interpret most of the posts on this forum, regardless of how clear they are. So I guess you could just keep on doing your thing, and I'll start ignoring it.

You have been posting for going on three years. You are just too busy resisting to see it.

 

[K1levelgrappler]

Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his platform? “No!” says the Trumpster, “It belongs to Steven Crowder.”

 

[spamking]

Lol. So, you just realized I never said it. Let's look at your claim again:


So, after I gave a list of comedians that do not cater to the "lowest denominator" which was apparently fine, then I decided to say you equated Crowder to Carlin? Show me that post. Spoiler, it doesn't exist. When you see a question mark, that means it's a question.

When you say that all comedians cater to the lowest denominator, you are including all the people I listed in that statement. They are all comedians. So my response is, those people that I listed are all catering to the lowest denominator like Crowder too? When you watch those comedians, you come away thinking they are just pandering to the easy targets?

All comedians cater to their specific audience . . . yes, they pander to them. Easy targets. Hard targets. A specific group that will bite on a specific topic.

Some are better at it than others.

 

[nac386]

You don’t understand
They don’t like crowder
Therefore anyone who does should be doxed and fired from their job and then harassed in their home
Then they can show everyone how virtuous they are from their phone without interacting with people in real

^ While we're at it, let's see where somebody said this. @spamking you can help him if he gets confused along the way.

 

[nac386]

All comedians cater to their specific audience . . . yes, they pander to them. Easy targets. Hard targets. A specific group that will bite on a specific topic.

Some are better at it than others.

Good comedians bring the audience to them. They do not cater to an audience, they force the audience to see their perspective through clever maneuvering. George Carlin can make Christians laugh at Christianity, Bill Burr can make feminists laugh at feminism, Louis CK told an incredibly offensive joke about children on SNL and brought the audience along through clever maneuvering, Norm MacDonald has a joke about serial killing that somehow becomes funny. That's not pandering to an audience.

John Oliver is obviously the lesser of the people I mentioned, and political comedians fall into the territory of pandering more easily than others. But even John Oliver also puts entire shows together around topics that nobody knows about or cares about, and somehow makes them interesting and comical. That shows that he does not have to pander to make people laugh. He's genuinely sharp and insightful, politics aside.

Crowder is an actual hack. Even people who like him on this board seem to think he's not funny the majority of the time.

 

[cincymma79]

^ While we're at it, let's see where somebody said this. @spamking you can help him if he gets confused along the way.

I rest my case

 

[spamking]

^ While we're at it, let's see where somebody said this. @spamking you can help him if he gets confused along the way.

Dude. Really? Are you 12?

 

[nac386]

Dude. Really? Are you 12?

This is where you guys fall apart.

He made a ridiculous statement. A complete lie, based on absolutely nothing. Agree? If not, show me where anybody made the statement he is claiming.

Yet instead of acknowledging that he's a liar, you made this weird request for me to disprove it. So why don't the two of you supply some evidence for the statement he made? You can't.

He does not seem to be able to follow, but you do, so maybe you could help him understand what a strawman is? At the very least, stop encouraging it.

 

[spamking]

Good comedians bring the audience to them. They do not cater to an audience, they force the audience to see their perspective through clever maneuvering. George Carlin can make Christians laugh at Christianity, Bill Burr can make feminists laugh at feminism, Louis CK told an incredibly offensive joke about children on SNL and brought the audience along through clever maneuvering, Norm MacDonald has a joke about serial killing that somehow becomes funny. That's not pandering to an audience.

John Oliver is obviously the lesser of the people I mentioned, and political comedians fall into the territory of pandering more easily than others. But even John Oliver also puts entire shows together around topics that nobody knows about or cares about, and somehow makes them interesting and comical. That shows that he does not have to pander to make people laugh. He's genuinely sharp and insightful, politics aside.

Crowder is an actual hack. Even people who like him on this board seem to think he's not funny the majority of the time.

 

[spamking]

This is where you guys fall apart.

He made a ridiculous statement. A complete lie, based on absolutely nothing. Agree? If not, show me where anybody made the statement he is claiming.

Yet instead of acknowledging that he's a liar, you made this weird request for me to disprove it. So why don't the two of you supply some evidence for the statement he made? You can't.

He does not seem to be able to follow, but you do, so maybe you could help him understand what a strawman is? At the very least, stop encouraging it.

The ENTIRE point of my request to you was that you relish the chance to prove someone wrong on here . . . yet in that particular case you didn't.

It's not up to me to prove anything related to his post to you . . . or help him/you do anything. So please, either move on and drop it or if you choose to pursue it further with him leave me out of it.

 

[nac386]

The ENTIRE point of my request to you was that you relish the chance to prove someone wrong on here . . . yet in that particular case you didn't.

It's not up to me to prove anything related to his post to you . . . or help him/you do anything. So please, either move on and drop it or if you choose to pursue it further with him leave me out of it.

I don't relish it at all. It's frustrating and annoying to deal with people who constantly lie, because every time they do, you have to waste time correcting them. Correcting people who put a steady stream of propaganda and nonsense into the forum is not enjoyable, it's an inconvenient aspect to talking politics.

 

[HereticBD]

Of course they don't. Most successful comedians are successful for that exact reason, they don't cater to the lowest denominator and that sets them apart from hacks that fall back on shock humor for Youtube videos. You really think comedians like George Carlin, Sebastian Maniscalco, Bill Burr, John Oliver, John Stewart, Louis CK, Norm MacDonald, etc, got the level of notoriety that they have by appealing to the lowest common denominator and are equals to a guy like Crowder?

Sheesh. No wonder people like Crowder are able to find an audience.

All of those people have talent. Writing, timing, delivery, etc. That's why they are not selling "Fig" T-shirts on Youtube to the least discerning audience in the country.

That's a rather broad generalization about comedians. For every Bill Burr, there's a Larry The Cable Guy, or Amy Schumer.

Let's not act like all successful comedians aren't hacks who don't appeal to the lowest common denominator. It's also a stretch to call Crowder a failed one, considering he hosts a very successful political comedy show at the moment. He's actually very similar to a John Oliver, whose stand up is completely forgettable, but manages to do extremely well as a comedic political commentator.

 

[nac386]

That's a rather broad generalization about comedians. For every Bill Burr, there's a Larry The Cable Guy, or Amy Schumer.

That's exactly the distinction I was making though. Not all comedians pander to their audiences. The good comedians bring their audience to them by having clever setups. As you go down the totum pole, you start getting to the panderers.

Let's not act like all successful comedians aren't hacks who don't appeal to the lowest common denominator. It's also a stretch to call Crowder a failed one, considering he hosts a very successful political comedy show at the moment. He's actually very similar to a John Oliver, whose stand up is completely forgettable, but manages to do extremely well as a comedic political commentator.

I never called Crowder a failed comedian. I honestly never even knew he was a comedian until people said so on this board. I don't consider every guy who makes some jokes while ranting about politics on Youtube a comedian. I always thought of Crowder as being more of a Ben Shapiro than a Bill Burr.

What I have said is that he's a hack. Like his bit about painting Muhammed. It's not smart or clever, or even funny (to me). It's just shock jock stuff, almost like a Youtube Howard Stern (but politically based and far less successful). I don't see the appeal.

John Oliver seems like a comedian, doing political commentary. Crowder seems like a political commentator, trying to be funny.

 

[TheOneAboveAll3]

I never said anything about the political views of the advertisers/companies. I'm saying these companies get spooked by liberal nutjobs who have nothing better to do with their lives than go on social media or head out in the streets and try to drum up bad publicity for a company because they advertised on a platform with right wing views.

If you're going to participate in the War Room, work on your reading comprehension, junior.

Are you slow? What about "Socialism is for s" do you think is friendly for advertisers? How about this, what if that loser who approves those tshirts grows the hell up or just deals with the consequences of his actions and gets a job that produces something tangible for this country instead of just more hatred? Or does god not allow that now?

Also you think a company would want to advertise with a person who is known to approve of products that say "whites are cock sucking bitches"? Tell me which company would be down to advertise with such company that makes a product with that tag line? There arent any dont be stuck on stupid. Freedom of speech is fine but there are consequences to Freedom of speech and if he can't take then he should grow the hell up.

You dont like youtube then you know whats the solution? STOP going on it. This is a capitalize country and youtube is able to do what they want with their company. You guys have to quit your whining already, pretty pathetic.

 

[TheOneAboveAll3]

Lol. So, you just realized I never said it. Let's look at your claim again:


So, after I gave a list of comedians that do not cater to the "lowest denominator" which was apparently fine, then I decided to say you equated Crowder to Carlin? Show me that post. Spoiler, it doesn't exist. When you see a question mark, that means it's a question.

When you say that all comedians cater to the lowest denominator, you are including all the people I listed in that statement. They are all comedians. So my response is, those people that I listed are all catering to the lowest denominator like Crowder too? When you watch those comedians, you come away thinking they are just pandering to the easy targets?

The best part is that idiot keeps trying to argue that he is right and youre wrong. Someone should go back to school, looking straight at you @spamking LMAO!!! I love it when Conservatives are proven wrong and still can't admit they are wrong, what a clown. You should be dubbed SpamCanReadKing from now on dude.

 

[nac386]

The best part is that idiot keeps trying to argue that he is right and youre wrong. Someone should go back to school, looking straight at you @spamking LMAO!!! I love it when Conservatives are proven wrong and still can't admit they are wrong, what a clown. You should be dubbed SpamCanReadKing from now on dude.

Eh, he’s one of the better “conservative” posters here. I consider it a miscommunication, we moved on.

 

[HereticBD]

That's exactly the distinction I was making though. Not all comedians pander to their audiences. The good comedians bring their audience to them by having clever setups. As you go down the totum pole, you start getting to the panderers.

It's all subjective, honestly. No comedian has true universal appeal. Some people think vulgarity in general, panders to the lowest common denominator.

The stuff about "bringing audiences to them" doesn't hold much water, because all big comedians do that. There's not some cheap trick to it. They were all once small time, and grew their audience. Hacks and talent succeed and fail all the same. There's no magic formula to it. People like you, or they don't.

I never called Crowder a failed comedian. I honestly never even knew he was a comedian until people said so on this board. I don't consider every guy who makes some jokes while ranting about politics on Youtube a comedian. I always thought of Crowder as being more of a Ben Shapiro than a Bill Burr.

There's a fine line. There are pure stand up comedians, like Bill Burr, and then there are hosts, or actors, or whatever. If you're talking pure stand up, then yeah, Crowder didn't exactly light the world on fire with his act. In his realm though, of comedic political commentary, like a Stewart, Maher, Bee, or Oliver, he's very successful.

It's not smart or clever, or even funny (to me). It's just shock jock stuff

Well, that's just it isn't it? You don't like his humor, so he's a hack. I could say the exact same thing about Stephen Colbert or Bill Maher and all the cheap shots they take at Trump. At the end of the day, it's all subjective.

John Oliver seems like a comedian, doing political commentary. Crowder seems like a political commentator, trying to be funny.

They're essentially the same thing.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

That's a rather broad generalization about comedians. For every Bill Burr, there's a Larry The Cable Guy, or Amy Schumer.

Let's not act like all successful comedians aren't hacks who don't appeal to the lowest common denominator. It's also a stretch to call Crowder a failed one, considering he hosts a very successful political comedy show at the moment. He's actually very similar to a John Oliver, whose stand up is completely forgettable, but manages to do extremely well as a comedic political commentator.

The big difference there being Oliver doesn't write his own shit.

 

[ObamaPhoneLady]

That's exactly the distinction I was making though. Not all comedians pander to their audiences. The good comedians bring their audience to them by having clever setups. As you go down the totum pole, you start getting to the panderers.



I never called Crowder a failed comedian. I honestly never even knew he was a comedian until people said so on this board. I don't consider every guy who makes some jokes while ranting about politics on Youtube a comedian. I always thought of Crowder as being more of a Ben Shapiro than a Bill Burr.

What I have said is that he's a hack. Like his bit about painting Muhammed. It's not smart or clever, or even funny (to me). It's just shock jock stuff, almost like a Youtube Howard Stern (but politically based and far less successful). I don't see the appeal.

John Oliver seems like a comedian, doing political commentary. Crowder seems like a political commentator, trying to be funny.

You can't claim to know what is/isn't funny if you say the Bob Ross painting Mohammed bit wasn't funny.

That just shows you are a typical heckler who goes to comedy shows and claps at stuff he agrees with and seethes at jokes he doesn't agree with regardless of humour.

I'm one of the biggest Trump supporters on here and even I can admit Michelle Woolf's correspondent's dinner set had some funny parts.

Grow up.