Elections Steven A Smith.... For President?

[GearSolidMetal]

What prominent Democrats or Democrat organization is backing this guy? If anything, which I doubt he'd do any better than Kanye, he would run just to steal some votes from the Democrat candidate.

Kayne did it for attention.
At no point did he ever do anything to imply he was a serious candidate.

If Steven Smith actually did run the first thing he'd have to do is quit his $20 million a year ESPN gig.
If he thinks he can do both he won't be perceived as a serious candidate.

As for what prominent Democrats or organizations would back him, that wouldn't be revealed immediately but if he gains momentum in the polls that is likely to change.

If the superdelegates would eventually back him... that depends on backroom deals with the establishment.
Obama eventually got their support... And Bernie didn't.

 

[tabascojet]

You're not wrong.
But at the same time, he'd be an exciting candidate.
What other candidate on the Democrat Bench would be 'exciting?'

Shapiro or brassier… they appeal to independents and moderate republiicans

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Shapiro or brassier… they appeal to independents and moderate republiicans

There's a reason why Shapiro wasn't picked to be VP in 2024.
He's a Jew.
The last I checked in 2028 he'll still be a Jew.

[By the way, that's not me being antisemitic, Democrats were playing both sides of the Israel/Hamas conflict and placating to both sides in the media.
Picking a Jewish VP wouldn't be a good move for their growing Muslim Voting Block.]

Haven't even heard of 'Brassier' so that shows how relevant he is.

 

[nhbbear]

I’ve gotta say-I’ve never been a fan of his. I think he’s aggressive and loud to make his points over content. I appreciate that he is one of the few sports analysts that recognizes mma and has for a while unlike most of the analysts that focus only the boring ass sports like basketball. There’s very limited coverage on mma news and for decades, espn refused to even cover or acknowledge the sport.

But smith running for potus is a joke on all levels.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I’ve gotta say-I’ve never been a fan of his. I think he’s aggressive and loud to make his points over content. I appreciate that he is one of the few sports analysts that recognizes mma and has for a while unlike most of the analysts that focus only the boring ass sports like basketball. There’s very limited coverage on mma news and for decades, espn refused to even cover or acknowledge the sport.

But smith running for potus is a joke on all levels.

I 100% agree... I'm not a fan of his or his sports coverage... But I disagree about him automatically perceived as a joke.

I trust you've been paying attention to politics for the last 10 years 8 months, right?

A loud-mouth celebrity with no political experience won a major party's nomination... Twice.
And won the presidency ... Twice.


I like to think I can analyze politicians from a layman's perspective, rather than a 'Im rightwing and hate all leftwingers' perspective.

Steven A Smith has amazing communication skills. He communicates excitement with the way he speaks.
If you deny that then you're in complete denial how he attracted an audience to ESPN that has earned him a $20 million/year contract.
Disney ain't handing those out like they're eggs at a chicken farm.

If you have watched his interviews & monologues about politics over the last several months he communicates sincerity extremely effectively.
Most politicians that try to sound sincere come off as fake. He's very very good at it.

And Trump has changed politics in the fact that the voting public demands authenticity. Any politician that comes off as fake to them, against the other choice that is perceived as authentic, is guaranteed to lose.

Steven A Smith has a much higher chance at winning the nomination than Newsom, or AOC,.... If he plays to his advantages and goes after their weaknesses publicly.


BTW, Gavin Newsom has the biggest weakness in the history of anyone running for President... how California has gone downhill over his terms and how tens of billions for homelessness & bullet trains have disappeared.

He's a great speaker and does great interviews, don't get me wrong in that respect, but his baggage (California) is guaranteed to sink him in a general election against Vance.

 

[LangfordBarrow]

Kayne did it for attention.
At no point did he ever do anything to imply he was a serious candidate.

If Steven Smith actually did run the first thing he'd have to do is quit his $20 million a year ESPN gig.
If he thinks he can do both he won't be perceived as a serious candidate.

As for what prominent Democrats or organizations would back him, that wouldn't be revealed immediately but if he gains momentum in the polls that is likely to change.

If the superdelegates would eventually back him... that depends on backroom deals with the establishment.
Obama eventually got their support... And Bernie didn't.

I don't know bro I don't think he's a serious candidate. I don't see any serious Democrats backing him. Maybe sport dudes would vote for him but most people probably think of him as just a goofy dude. Skip Bayless probably gets more votes than he does.

 

[nhbbear]

I 100% agree... I'm not a fan of his or his sports coverage... But I disagree about him automatically perceived as a joke.

I trust you've been paying attention to politics for the last 10 years 8 months, right?

A loud-mouth celebrity with no political experience won a major party's nomination... Twice.
And won the presidency ... Twice.


I like to think I can analyze politicians from a layman's perspective, rather than a 'Im rightwing and hate all leftwingers' perspective.

Steven A Smith has amazing communication skills. He communicates excitement with the way he speaks.
If you deny that then you're in complete denial how he attracted an audience to ESPN that has earned him a $20 million/year contract.
Disney ain't handing those out like they're eggs at a chicken farm.

If you have watched his interviews & monologues about politics over the last several months he communicates sincerity extremely effectively.
Most politicians that try to sound sincere come off as fake. He's very very good at it.

And Trump has changed politics in the fact that the voting public demands authenticity. Any politician that comes off as fake to them, against the other choice that is perceived as authentic, is guaranteed to lose.

Steven A Smith has a much higher chance at winning the nomination than Newsom, or AOC,.... If he plays to his advantages and goes after their weaknesses publicly.


BTW, Gavin Newsom has the biggest weakness in the history of anyone running for President... how California has gone downhill over his terms and how tens of billions for homelessness & bullet trains have disappeared.

He's a great speaker and does great interviews, don't get me wrong in that respect, but his baggage (California) is guaranteed to sink him in a general election against Vance.

Complete respect in your opinion. Unfortunately for the whole wide world, you are correct in your pointing out that a reality star and completely morally bankrupt (as well as several actual bankruptcies) somehow was elected twice to the most powerful office in the world. I laughed when he first announced his run and laughed at him during the first debate. Boy, I couldn’t have been more wrong.

Smith couldn’t/wouldn’t be a worse choice as I seen few possible. Besides making 3-4 billion in one year of his second run, he has managed to undermine every possible relationship with other world leaders and entire countries and their populations now hating this country and its citizens-to the point that I am not sure I want to travel abroad next year like we’re planning. He pardoned tons of shitbags-especially white collar criminals just like himself in return for favors or to repay them. I can’t think of a darker time in US history aside from the slavery days and civil rights disasters-but on a global scale-nothing even comes close.

Sorry for the rant-it just spills out-almost daily now.

But I hope to all fucks that gavin gruesome doesn’t get the nom nor aoc or anyone super progressive like her. But I can tolerate vance, either. He’s probably better and much less harmful and evil than trump-but I don’t know by how much.

I don’t hate my country-not even close, but I loathe our political system and what it’s become. Watching politicians become obscenely wealthy through favors and suddenly becoming experts at the stock market they always seem to win as well as their family suddenly become very extremely “lucky” in all financial endeavors. Our two party system is corrupt af and every single election, I find myself having to decide-if I even vote for an actual human candidate, what rights I want to risk or give up depending on the candidate. Either my 1st and 4th with people like trump or my 2nd with the other side.

So it absolutely sucks to be an American sometimes with our very limited and very shitty choices in politics.

 

[Madmick]

Predicting the nominees two years in advance has always been risky.

Indeed. I'm banking on the Democrats' penchant for playing it safe.

Because in reality, if the economy doesn't get better, they could probably field someone far, far, far more extreme to the left. Someone like Mamdani who labels himself a "socialist" and whose chief of staff bluntly says, "Elect more Communists."

I didn't think Newsom embracing the troll-heel gimmick would work for him, but it has.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Complete respect in your opinion. Unfortunately for the whole wide world, you are correct in your pointing out that a reality star and completely morally bankrupt (as well as several actual bankruptcies) somehow was elected twice to the most powerful office in the world. I laughed when he first announced his run and laughed at him during the first debate. Boy, I couldn’t have been more wrong.

Same.

Smith couldn’t/wouldn’t be a worse choice as I seen few possible. Besides making 3-4 billion in one year of his second run, he has managed to undermine every possible relationship with other world leaders and entire countries and their populations now hating this country and its citizens-to the point that I am not sure I want to travel abroad next year like we’re planning. He pardoned tons of shitbags-especially white collar criminals just like himself in return for favors or to repay them. I can’t think of a darker time in US history aside from the slavery days and civil rights disasters-but on a global scale-nothing even comes close.

Sorry for the rant-it just spills out-almost daily now.

But I hope to all fucks that gavin gruesome doesn’t get the nom nor aoc or anyone super progressive like her. But I can tolerate vance, either. He’s probably better and much less harmful and evil than trump-but I don’t know by how much.

I don’t hate my country-not even close, but I loathe our political system and what it’s become. Watching politicians become obscenely wealthy through favors and suddenly becoming experts at the stock market they always seem to win as well as their family suddenly become very extremely “lucky” in all financial endeavors. Our two party system is corrupt af and every single election, I find myself having to decide-if I even vote for an actual human candidate, what rights I want to risk or give up depending on the candidate. Either my 1st and 4th with people like trump or my 2nd with the other side.

So it absolutely sucks to be an American sometimes with our very limited and very shitty choices in politics.

No objections to any of this.
I truly wish there was a way to make political positions truly 'serving the public's rather than 'the public serving them.'

But that's besides the point of what the topic is, and that is if Steven A Smith would have a chance at the Democrat Nomination if he would run.

In short, my position is his chances are much higher than what most would guess they are.... If he would play it smart.

And no, most politicians who would run would do so just to increase their public profile, sell books, and increase their campaign funds to use later for their state re-elections.

But Steven A Smith would likely lose money if he would to step away from ESPN. That's a major feather in his cap.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Indeed. I'm banking on the Democrats' penchant for playing it safe.

Because in reality, if the economy doesn't get better, they could probably field someone far, far, far more extreme to the left. Someone like Mamdani who labels himself a "socialist" and whose chief of staff bluntly says, "Elect more Communists."

I didn't think Newsom embracing the troll-heel gimmick would work for him, but it has.

Wouldn't say that 'troll heel' gimmick has worked well for him. His poll numbers would stay the same regardless.

He comes off as trying to be Trump, but mostly over Twitter, which makes me question is he's actually tweeting those troll comments out, or his staffers.

Let's see if he starts to be a troll in his campaign speeches and interviews.

 

[Madmick]

Wouldn't say that 'troll heel' gimmick has worked well for him. His poll numbers would stay the same regardless.

Contrary to what I expected, it has. Since he embraced that strategy with his social media accounts, and most visibly spearheaded the gerrymandering campaign in California to counter what Trump and the Republicans did in Texas, he has soared in polling asking the question of who Democrats would most likely elect as President. When Trump took office he wasn't even in second place. He was polling around 3%-4%, IIRC. Today he's ahead of Harris in the majority of polls:

2028 Democratic Presidential Nomination - 270toWin

Public opinion polling for the 2028 democratic nomination.

www.270towin.com

The clear Achilles Heel for Newsom is that he is tied to "politics-as-usual" perception, and while Trump & Republicans may be severely slumping in approval ratings, the Democrats aren't viewed positively. There is still a major negative regard for that party right now.

 

[PBAC]

I think we are due a presidential race similar to those California gov ones when Arnie first ran whenever it was. The wacky races.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

You're not wrong.
But at the same time, he'd be an exciting candidate.
What other candidate on the Democrat Bench would be 'exciting?'

Exciting isn't what people should be looking for.

Bring back presidents who are boring but good at their job

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Exciting isn't what people should be looking for.

Bring back presidents who are boring but good at their job

That's not how it's worked since the first televised presidential debate.

Don't take this as an endorsement, but an acknowledgement of reality, that to convince tens of millions to vote for a nominee for president they have to be convinced that person will bring meaningful change to the country, their city/state, and themselves personally.

If you disagree with this, please point out a nominee that won the presidency with "I'm boring & would be a good president" since debates were televised.

The Democrat nominee should at least be more exciting than JD Vance.
Shouldn't be too hard, right?

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Contrary to what I expected, it has. Since he embraced that strategy with his social media accounts, and most visibly spearheaded the gerrymandering campaign in California to counter what Trump and the Republicans did in Texas, he has soared in polling asking the question of who Democrats would most likely elect as President. When Trump took office he wasn't even in second place. He was polling around 3%-4%, IIRC. Today he's ahead of Harris in the majority of polls:

2028 Democratic Presidential Nomination - 270toWin

Public opinion polling for the 2028 democratic nomination.

www.270towin.com

The clear Achilles Heel for Newsom is that he is tied to "politics-as-usual" perception, and while Trump & Republicans may be severely slumping in approval ratings, the Democrats aren't viewed positively. There is still a major negative regard for that party right now.

I'm still not believing that there's a clear rise in his poll numbers because of his 'trolling' because he's not very good at it.
I can appreciate a good troll.

That is damn good trolling.
And Trump is practically the only politician with the balls to troll.

Just like when he flung mud first in the 2015 debates when the other candidates flung mug back it seemed like they were trying to imitate Trump, it seems like Newsom is trying to imitate Trump now, and he's failing.

If he was doing well with the trolling I'd commend him for it.

I troll @Ares Black constantly and he falls for it every time.

But Gavin Newsom's polls aren't rising because of his attempts at trolling, they're rising because people like to support who they believe who is going to be the eventual nominee.

That's not specifically a Democrat thing either, it was quite clear in 2015&2016 Trump wasn't changing his positions but as the other candidates were dropping out his poll numbers kept rising.

Who else could run and possibly win over Newsom?
AOC? Doubtful she's going to run, IMHO. Too much risk & too little reward when she can do nothing in Congress and get paid millions for it.

Mads, you mentioned you believe Newsom is going to win the nomination and I'd say you have a 90+% chance of being correct.

The 10-% is if Steven A Smith jumps in and does interviews like he has been doing interviews, can also do hostile interviews with tough questions, and give speeches with the same passion he tells athletes to stay off 'the weed.'

 

[Sweater of AV]

Lmao. His presidential addresses will be Michael Jordan highlight packages. I sure as hell won't complain.

SAS for Pres.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Unfortunately the overwhelming majority of educators, journalists and historians are left leaning. The idea that they are above their political bias is comical.

In 100 years Trump will be vilified entirely regardless of his successes. The history books (if there any remaining) will conveniently ignore anything other than gaffs, mistakes, and sensationalism content.

What would right leaning historians and journalists like about Trump exact;y?

What guarantees that in 100 years the majority of educators, journalists and historians are left leaning?

Sooo.... Only Obama was a 'strong candidate' in recent history?

His accomplishments as President, both domestic and foreign, will outshine his statements.

I don't consider Obama particularly strong, but stronger than the most recent ones. Being in a weak era does not mean he will be judged less.

He has to liberate China with troops and turn it into a multiparty democracy for that to happen.

 

[HereticBD]

I'm still not believing that there's a clear rise in his poll numbers because of his 'trolling' because he's not very good at it.

At this point, polls are pretty much useless, in terms of primary candidates. Newsom is up because of his name. That's it. The real test begins when his record starts getting picked apart on live TV and how he answers for it. I could see him becoming Jeb Bush, if he's up against some silver tongued leftist who goes for the kill shot. His failures are not hard to call out, and all of his opponents will sound like Trump when they go at him, and he is not good under pressure.

I don't see him taking it. California has too many issues. Even the celebrities who prop him up and live there, don't really like his policies.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

The democrat powers that be will push for Moore-AOC, after a bitter primary,.

However, I could see Smith having the trump effect on the democrats. Plain talks to voters, which is why he has had numerous viral clips with his political comments. Would attract and galvanized a largely disenfranchised group of voters in black males.

After a bitter primary, with Smith-Fetterman ticket emerging over Moore/AOC, they will be squaring off vs Blessent

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

I'm still not believing that there's a clear rise in his poll numbers because of his 'trolling' because he's not very good at it.
I can appreciate a good troll.

That is damn good trolling.
And Trump is practically the only politician with the balls to troll.

Just like when he flung mud first in the 2015 debates when the other candidates flung mug back it seemed like they were trying to imitate Trump, it seems like Newsom is trying to imitate Trump now, and he's failing.

If he was doing well with the trolling I'd commend him for it.

I troll @Ares Black constantly and he falls for it every time.

But Gavin Newsom's polls aren't rising because of his attempts at trolling, they're rising because people like to support who they believe who is going to be the eventual nominee.

That's not specifically a Democrat thing either, it was quite clear in 2015&2016 Trump wasn't changing his positions but as the other candidates were dropping out his poll numbers kept rising.

Who else could run and possibly win over Newsom?
AOC? Doubtful she's going to run, IMHO. Too much risk & too little reward when she can do nothing in Congress and get paid millions for it.

Mads, you mentioned you believe Newsom is going to win the nomination and I'd say you have a 90+% chance of being correct.

The 10-% is if Steven A Smith jumps in and does interviews like he has been doing interviews, can also do hostile interviews with tough questions, and give speeches with the same passion he tells athletes to stay off 'the weed.'

Martha's Vineyard immigrants stunt was pretty much that and Trump is pretty much terrible at baiting people period.

I 100% agree... I'm not a fan of his or his sports coverage... But I disagree about him automatically perceived as a joke.

I trust you've been paying attention to politics for the last 10 years 8 months, right?

A loud-mouth celebrity with no political experience won a major party's nomination... Twice.
And won the presidency ... Twice.


I like to think I can analyze politicians from a layman's perspective, rather than a 'Im rightwing and hate all leftwingers' perspective.

Steven A Smith has amazing communication skills. He communicates excitement with the way he speaks.
If you deny that then you're in complete denial how he attracted an audience to ESPN that has earned him a $20 million/year contract.
Disney ain't handing those out like they're eggs at a chicken farm.

If you have watched his interviews & monologues about politics over the last several months he communicates sincerity extremely effectively.
Most politicians that try to sound sincere come off as fake. He's very very good at it.

And Trump has changed politics in the fact that the voting public demands authenticity. Any politician that comes off as fake to them, against the other choice that is perceived as authentic, is guaranteed to lose.

Steven A Smith has a much higher chance at winning the nomination than Newsom, or AOC,.... If he plays to his advantages and goes after their weaknesses publicly.


BTW, Gavin Newsom has the biggest weakness in the history of anyone running for President... how California has gone downhill over his terms and how tens of billions for homelessness & bullet trains have disappeared.

He's a great speaker and does great interviews, don't get me wrong in that respect, but his baggage (California) is guaranteed to sink him in a general election against Vance.

So ESPN gave a ton of money for him to be their house clown...

And that is supposed to translate into politics...

The trends were moving towards authenticity regardless of Trump. Stepehn A does not even even have authentic sports opinions....