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STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS v.10 (Dragonlord's Review)

If you have seen STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS, how would you rate it?


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Over-rated? At the beginning of the movie, he is so powerful that he is able to stop, in mid-air, a laser bolt from a gun and carry on talking.

Darth Vader could deflect bullets, but even he couldn't do that ... So, in the beggining, we are told that this new character, Ren, is a f**king badass and more powerful than Vader ... But, by the end of the movie, we are shown to believe that he is whiny, unthreatening and gets his ass whooped by a girl that just found out moments ago what the force was.

Also I think the deflecting bullets is just a 2015 movie adding cool new shit and effects. I'm sure Darth Vader would be deflecting shit too in a new movie. It's like if Yoda fought in the original trilogy, he would look nothing like he did in the prequels where he was doing all kinds of crazy flips.
 
I can see your point.

Sorry Im tired. I mean Darth Vader could stop bullets mid air too if the original triolgy was today.

I do see your points as well and I was almost at that point too where I was thinking WTF? I think they could've does things a tad different but like I said I could probably beat up a shot Fedor. That's one of the thoughts that let me accept that fight scene. I do have issues have with the movie though like I wish they hadn't gone the Death Star route again.
 
Sorry Im tired. I mean Darth Vader could stop bullets mid air too if the original triolgy was today.

I do see your points as well and I was almost at that point too where I was thinking WTF? I think they could've does things a tad different but like I said I could probably beat up a shot Fedor. That's one of the thoughts that let me accept that fight scene. I do have issues have with the movie though like I wish they hadn't gone the Death Star route again.
Yeah, honestly, I'm not hating on the movie (although, it definitely sounds like I am, lol). It was fun and I definitely enjoyed my time in the cinema! But, just feel like it could have been so much more.
 
I'm not against strong female protagonists, I'm a huge fan of the resident evil movies (I have all of them on DVD) and those films have a female protagonist that is way over-powered. But, the rules of that universe had not been established (like they had in Star Wars). I feel like JJ Abrams took the piss a bit with the plot and portrayal of characters.
 
Each one of those guys you mentioned from Jack Reacher, Taken, Equalizer.... those guys had something called "TRAINING" and "EXPERIENCE." They didn't start out as nothing and then 30 minutes later wreck shit, suddenly becoming experts with no training whatsoever.

Ripley and Connor earned the prowess they were given in Aliens and T2 by suffering through the events of Alien and T1. By T2, Sarah was hardened, so seeing her in that tough badass role was perfectly acceptable. Same thing with Ripley.

Pretty sure using a lightsaber (and the force) has a much steeper learning curve than firing a pulse rifle or flame thrower.

Plus, the Marines' mission wasn't purely to "lets immediately go to the depths of the nest, get the girl, and then get out ASAP." Their mission was entirely different, so your comparison doesn't compute. Further, by that point, the aliens had been fighting for hours against the Marines, so they weren't all just sitting down there cozy, waiting for Ripley. Most were scattered all over the compound. Ripley had a nice direct route down and back, with minimal aliens to fight along the way.

So yeah. There's a difference between strong female characters that work, and near-infallible Mary Sues that don't. The only things you can point to that Rey wasn't good at was not getting captured. She got captured once, and would have gotten captured again at the end if it wasn't for Finn, but that's it. Otherwise, she goes from nothing, to better than where Luke was at the end of ESB, with no training, in 30 minutes....... that's ridiculous.


The ass kickers were brought up to counter the "Character Arc" argument, where the protagonist needs failure and can't be infallible (Rey isn't despite what people are arguing). Which it does pretty succinctly. And again, Rey has superpowers and yet doesn't accomplish anything remotely like the badassery that those character drop kick all over everybody. She could have lost, gotten trained by Luke and then come back in the second movie and wrecked shop like that and the same people would still be complaining that it's a feminist agenda.

Like has been mentioned so many times already, people are predicting this isn't her first foray into force powers. If in the coming movies it's revealed that she has training does that mean your position is going to change?

I didn't mention Sarah Connor. Her arc of badassery is perfectly suitable. But Ripley? Come on now. That's all screenplay necessity. If she "earned" it by suffering through the movies, then Rey earned it by suffering as a slave on a desert planet for years and then being captured. These standards are so blatantly contradictory. Ripley doesn't become adept at using a pulse rifle because she blew a Xeno out of an airlock in the first movie. C'mon now, that's nonsense and you're grasping at straws.
 
The movie being feminist propaganda isn't even my biggest complaint with the movie.

My biggest complaint is that it ripped off episode 4: a new hope. And it wasn't even a good rip off.

So many things about the plot/storyline just don't make any sense. Everything just happens by coincidence and it makes the Star Wars universe feel small. For example, they crash on Jakku, and just so happen to be walking distance from bb8, they escape on the millennium falcon and just so happen to bump into Han Solo and Chewbacca ... This kind of shit makes the Star Wars universe feel small ... You realize how big a f**king galaxy is??? Heck, Or even a planet??

This movie is supposed to continue from episode 6: the RETURN of the Jedi. I thought the Jedi was supposed to have returned?? But episode 7 rolls by and the empire are stronger than ever!! And we are back to episode 4 storyline being rehashed almost frame for frame!!!

Did the actions of the heroes from episode 4, 5, 6 count for ANYTHING???? It cheapens those movies when you think about it.

In terms of this movie, Rey being a super-saiyan level 3 after knowing what the force is 5 minutes ago is LOW priority on my complaints. Albeit a legit complaint. Heck, if they had made a gripping, new, innovative storyline and had a badass, all knowing female protagonist, I probably would have looked past it.

You are right, it's getting praise, but so did episode 1, when that was released. I reckon the praise is mainly down to nostalgia of seeing Han Solo and Chewbacca on screen together. 10+ years of no Star Wars movies (so anticipation was sky high), a loyal fan base (seriously, slap the Star Wars brand on anything and it will sell). Fast paced action and the biggest hype train ever.

It certainly isn't because of the plot/storyline.

Thats fine, that's your opinion and its perfectly valid. But it doesn't have anything to do with what I said.
 
I'm pretty positive I could kick Fedor's ass if he had just been shot in the stomach. It doesn't mean shit though.

Damn. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to come up with this analogy.
 
Damn. I'm surprised it took so long for someone to come up with this analogy.

It was a wound from a weapon that should have torn him apart. This has been mentioned several times and it's been ignored.
 
It was a wound from a weapon that should have torn him apart. This has been mentioned several times and it's been ignored.

Oh, I agree completely. Even though I had my own issued with how the climax played out, the more I see the complaints the more I see the double standards. Was it perfect? No, I think they needed one more extra step. But holy crap it isn't a youtube worthy political agenda.
 
Oh, I agree completely. Even though I had my own issued with how the climax played out, the more I see the complaints the more I see the double standards. Was it perfect? No, I think they needed one more extra step. But holy crap it isn't a youtube worthy political agenda.

I agree.

Thing is, that worthiness has little to do with merit. Come up with an argument about a hot topic and the views will roll in.
 
I don't see any feminist agende in there tbh. This time the main protagonist is a girl, big fucking deal.
 
These guys hit the nail on the head perfectly.


Mr. Plinkett deserves better than this garbage.

Why is he being used as a screen cap on this video? The guys at RLM enjoyed TFA.
 
I don't see any feminist agende in there tbh. This time the main protagonist is a girl, big fucking deal.

To guys who are afraid of women, any strong woman in fiction is a part of the feminist agenda.
 
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