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STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS Official Thread v.7 (Crosses $1 Billion Worldwide)

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Just got back from seeing it again in IMAX.

I still stick with 8/10. The last duel is still ridiculous (despite the explanations why Rey got the better of Ren).

Han did call Kylo Ben.

Feminist agenda is strong in this one (its basically been admitted "this one's for the ladies") - could have been called Star Wars E.7 ; I Am Women Hear Me Roar.

BB8 is cool.

Is something wrong with Carrie Fisher she was by far the weakest acting in the film (she has a weird lisp or something).

Seeing Han, Chewie, Leia and Luke made me feel old.

IMAX viewing was cool but had to close my eyes a few times as I started to get dizzy (haha).
 
ok i just went to see it and have the following comments

-in the flashback scene where Rei touches the lightsaber, there is a scene showing the Knights of Ren standing around dead jedi's - i swear i saw a figure that resembled the same outfit Boba Fett wore - can anyone confirm?

-Ben completely tooled Fin in the lightsaber battle - he was toying with him. Having said that, his sabre vs. anti-sabre battle with the other storm trooper clearly showed that he had some training with a sword. he was not a first timer at that, just not very good at it. Ben also started off toying with Rei until she focused.
 
Just got back from seeing it again in IMAX.

I still stick with 8/10. The last duel is still ridiculous (despite the explanations why Rey got the better of Ren).

Han did call Kylo Ben.

Feminist agenda is strong in this one (its basically been admitted "this one's for the ladies") - could have been called Star Wars E.7 ; I Am Women Hear Me Roar.

BB8 is cool.

Is something wrong with Carrie Fisher she was by far the weakest acting in the film (she has a weird lisp or something).


Seeing Han, Chewie, Leia and Luke made me feel old.

IMAX viewing was cool but had to close my eyes a few times as I started to get dizzy (haha).

its what happens when you've recently had a face lift.
 
Feminist agenda is strong in this one (its basically been admitted "this one's for the ladies") - could have been called Star Wars E.7 ; I Am Women Hear Me Roar.

If Rey was a dude would it be because of a masculinist agenda?

Does the gender of any character in this story actually matter to the story or could every single character have had their gender swapped and their choices and actions would still make just as much sense (which, of course, isn't the same as saying they make total sense)?
 
Oh and I just had a thought: how many people total did the Starkiller base blow up? Grand Moff Tarkin's little wannabe grandson killed like 10 billion people didn't he?

What little we saw of Hosnian Prime seemed to imply that it was an ecumenopolis like Coruscant, so the death toll could be in the trillions.

And that's leaving out all the people in the Republic Fleet and in the other planets of the Hosnian System.

Without The First Order to take over the Galaxy and replace the Republic - and without a recognized government for the Republic - individual planets and systems will no doubt descend into war-lordism. Gonna be a galactic free for all...

I don’t think so. The galaxy has had over 30 years to see the benefits of the New Republic and now they’ve seen that the First Order is as much of a threat as the Empire of old. If anything, it might galvanize them into fighting back.

Besides, they seem to be going for a WWII analogy this time around. Hosnian Prime would be the Pearl Harbor analogue. The New Republic might react in the same way the US did.
 
I think gender, race, etc., only become a problem in art/fiction (not just in film) when they're the reason people criticize or applaud the character.

"She's great because she's a woman" or "She sucks because she's a woman" are equally sexist statements.

"He's great because he represents a minority" or "He sucks because he represents a minority" are equally racist statements.

What matters is how interesting the characters are. And IMO Rey and Finn are great characters, period.
 
I felt so sorry for this poor little kid. When I left the theater yesterday, I overheard a 6 year old say, "Han Solos not dead. Someone secretly saved him from falling."

:(:(:( Somebody give that kid a hug.
 
I think gender, race, etc., only become a problem in art/fiction (not just in film) when they're the reason people criticize or applaud the character.

"She's great because she's a woman" or "She sucks because she's a woman" are equally sexist statements.

"He's great because he represents a minority" or "He sucks because he represents a minority" are equally racist statements.

What matters is how interesting the characters are. And IMO Rey and Finn are great characters, period.

Agreed. Star Wars has always had a sense of equality, at least to me. Anyone who watched Clone Wars or would at least join me in watching Rebels would see that there are quite a few powerful female characters. No agenda. Just good characters.

Prime Ahsoka Tano ("Rebels" adult version) would tool the fuck out of Kylo Ren. Fact. Dual White Light Sabers FTW.
 
The whole gender and race equality thing is a common theme in speculative and science fiction.
 
Prime Ahsoka Tano ("Rebels" adult version) would tool the fuck out of Kylo Ren. Fact. Dual White Light Sabers FTW.

Hell, Clone Wars era Ahsoka would could him a run for his money.
 
Just saw the force awakens 2/10. Just a rehash and money grab, a little flash and zero substance.
 
Does the gender of any character in this story actually matter to the story or could every single character have had their gender swapped and their choices and actions would still make just as much sense (which, of course, isn't the same as saying they make total sense)?
This is surprisingly true. Race and gender are interchangeable.
Agreed. Star Wars has always had a sense of equality, at least to me. Anyone who watched Clone Wars or would at least join me in watching Rebels would see that there are quite a few powerful female characters. No agenda. Just good characters.
Sometimes Lucas comes off as a stereotyper, which pleasantly cannot be accused of TFA. Then again I think I can appreciate the provincial colonialism because the STAR WARS of my heart is a post apocalyptic samurai western. And at least it's not Bay-level gratuitous.
 
If Rey was a dude would it be because of a masculinist agenda?

Does the gender of any character in this story actually matter to the story or could every single character have had their gender swapped and their choices and actions would still make just as much sense (which, of course, isn't the same as saying they make total sense)?


I dont think it was a feminist agenda or anything. However if the plot twist was that Finn was force sensitive and then closed his eyes and started beating down Ren with a light saber he picked up 30 seconds ago you'd have the same complaints, imo.
 
Saw it the second time around...and still a 5/10 for me. Movie almost seemed comedic...and goofy. Like you're watching a Pixar film or something, but the story line sucked.

I don't care what anyone says....The movie seemed very dumb down, just like most every other film plopping out these days. Hipsters would agree.

I thought I would never says this...Phantom Menace > Awaken
 
Saw it the second time around...and still a 5/10 for me. Movie almost seemed comedic...and goofy. Like you're watching a Pixar film or something, but the story line sucked.

I don't care what anyone says....The movie seemed very dumb down, just like most every other film plopping out these days. Hipsters would agree.

I thought I would never says this...Phantom Menace > Awaken

you gave the movie a 5 and then saw it again less than a week later?
 
I loved it and I had a lot of fun watching it. There were definitely some moments that didn't need to be in there and it took away from some of the plot lines that needed to be explored more but I think this sets up an even better movie for Rian Johnson to write and direct.
 
I loved it and I had a lot of fun watching it. There were definitely some moments that didn't need to be in there and it took away from some of the plot lines that needed to be explored more but I think this sets up an even better movie for Rian Johnson to write and direct.

I bet there is a ton of stuff on the cutting room floor that was sacrificed to the Gods of Pacing that would have made for a better overall movie. One can only hope that there is a Blu Ray "Director's Cut" in the future.


Hell, Clone Wars era Ahsoka would could him a run for his money.

Well I didn't want to totally emasculate him by him getting tooled by a female child, but seriously Ahsoka toyed with two Inquisitors and even caught one of them in mid strike and powered down their double saber bare handed. #alphaasfuck
 
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