STAR WARS: THE FORCE AWAKENS Official Thread v.7 (Crosses $1 Billion Worldwide)

[BAM]

The only thing I really hated was the cinematography for the last scene, with a helicopter shot circling Rey and Luke in the wind. Just awful. Have some subtlety ffs Abrams. That scene should not have been a cliffhanger, should not have been shot that way and probably should have had a journey of more than 30 seconds - save it for film 8.

 

[BAM]

I was about to post this as well.

how does it feel dragon, how does it feel to not be able to break the news. I can feel the anger flowing through you, good, good.

 

[Madmick]

All the guys who are complaining that Ren is more powerful than Vader need to watch this 4-minute clip. Kanan is actually a pretty perfect stand-in. He and Ren are appear to be nearly identical in terms of their skill, training, and general composure. LOL at his silly force push against Rey being stronger than Vader.

This IS canon:

Spoiler

 

[Madmick]

When I was watching the film, I thought of a few of the gripes people had and noticed they were answered fairly easily. For example, there is a contingent that said 'how can you have a black clone', well right off the bat, they say they're not clones, but essentially child soldiers, bereft of identity and family.

A lot of the complaints in this thread I can see being resolved easily in a few ways, I'm not that worried. For example, I've seen a bit of 'Ren isn't a badass'. I think that's the whole point, he's obviously still just a kid, mal-adjusted, immature, weak. He's not really the bad guy, that's either going to be Snoke, or if Snoke has a dark side superior. Snoke might just be the political tool of someone else ala Dooku/Palpatine.

Also saw a bit of 'how could he lose a lightsaber battle'. Well, he did get his guts blown out by Chewey's crossbow which they spent the entire film building up as a devastating killing machine. He walked that shit off, essentially defeated and left Finn (a soldier) for dead and I'm pretty sure he took her too lightlly. With him giong to get 'training' from Snoke and his wounds healed he'll be formidable. He already has shown some impressive force shit - mind reading, froze a lazer shot mid flight, telekinesis, etc.

Precisely. There haven't been any clones since the clone wars. Storm troopers in the original films (Ep. 4-6) were NOT clones. All of these gripes are made in ignorance. Abrams nailed it. He carefully crafted his film. Everything he did is easily explained within the Star Wars universe.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

Update: December 23, 2015

J.J. Abrams Regrets Not Directing STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII

In a rare moment of revealing honesty from Star Wars: Episode VII director, J.J. Abrams, he admitted regret towards not staying aboard the Star Wars ship for Episode XIII.

Greg Grunberg, who has been working with Abrams on various projects since Felicity and LOST, where he played Oceanic 815's pilot, says Abrams wishes he was sticking around for the next installment. "He read it and said something he never, ever says," Grunberg told The Washington Post about Abrams' reaction to Episode VIII's script. "He said, 'It's so good, I wish I were making it."

Though the millions of us who have seen Episode VII wish Abrams was sticking around, his seal of approval and admiration for Episode VIII's script should be reassuring. "He may have said something one time on Lost with Damon [Lindelof]," Grunberg continued, "but I never hear him express regret like that."

Abrams is not completely hands-off with the Star Wars franchise. He'll still be around, producing the franchise, as he does with Star Trek. Star Wars: Episode VIII hits theaters May 27, 2017.

Episode VIII will be directed by Rian Johnson of Looper, Brick and The Brothers Bloom. Prior to The Force Awakens' release, Abrams and Johnson would share early cuts of the film to make the franchise's transition into a new director more seamless.


J.J. Abrams Regrets That He's Not Directing Star Wars Episode VIII

 

[Prime Ang]

Precisely. There haven't been any clones since the clone wars. Storm troopers in the original films (Ep. 4-6) were NOT clones. All of these gripes are made in ignorance. Abrams nailed it. He carefully crafted his film. Everything he did is easily explained within the Star Wars universe.

Yea, I was really confused as to why people were asking how a black guy could be a clone. People are really fucking stupid tho, so there's that.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

how does it feel dragon, how does it feel to not be able to break the news. I can feel the anger flowing through you, good, good.

*Insert Kylo Ren temper tantrum gif*

 

[Amerikuracana]

I was so convinced that Luke was going to show up at a surprise moment of turmoil the whole film, I too was disappointed by the end on a couple levels. Still liked the movie, but it was a bit too 'poppy,' which I expected. Maybe not as much as I expected, actually. Luke should have showed up when all was lost, and the movie could have ended there. They still could have had a 'big win' at the end, like the weapon being blown up, but Luke should have made an entrance at an important time.

 

[Katsumi Yamada]

And the stupid shit like "red armed 3p0" is plunked in after the fact so that they can sell two 3p0 toys...

fuckers.

People hate on C3PO but that scene made me laugh out loud. Classic threepio

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

*Insert Kylo Ren temper tantrum gif*

*insert disgrunted Sansara and BVG posts*

 

[BAM]

People hate on C3PO but that scene made me laugh out loud. Classic threepio

c3po even threw in some classic cockblocking on han just like the good old days.

 

[Dragonlordxxxxx]

DrBdan, just remembered that there were murmurs that Hayden Christensen might show up in some form or another in Episode VIII.

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Update: September 21, 2015

Rumor: Hayden Christensen to Appear in STAR WARS: EPISODE VIII?

Making Star Wars has heard through the Jedi grapevine that Hayden Christensen, who portrayed young Anakin Skywalker in the prequels, is making an appearance in Rian Johnson's Star Wars: Episode VIII. They report: "A team in the U.K. are soon heading to the U.S. to begin training Hayden Christensen for a Star Wars: Episode VIII appearance of some sort."

Training?! That doesn't sound like a mere appearance from a ghost of Anakin. So that leaves us with two possibilities: Anakin flashback scene(s) or he is resurrected -- from the dead or as a clone -- by Kylo Ren, who is obsessed with Darth Vader. There is a popular fan theory that is currently circulating that seems very relevent to this latest rumor.

Making Star Wars also has some additional info regarding Darth Vader appearing Star Wars: Rogue One. "The most I have heard at this juncture is that a fully operational Darth Vader chest piece along with the helmet made it to the creature shop for the next film," they report. "The lights on the chest piece work and everything."

However, only one was spotted, indicating Darth Vader's screentime would be very limited -- no action scenes of any sort. Though, this chest piece might just be used a reference for the prop shop to churn out multiple pieces. Filming has already begun and you would figure multiple suits would've been dealt with in pre-production.


Rumor: Hayden Christensen Training for an Appearance in Star Wars: Episode VIII

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[hearthstone25]

Despite defending the Ren vs Rey + Finn battle, I do somewhat question what the writers were thinking when they made that scene. Like even the guys defending battle like myself, I can admit it would've been better if Finn got his ass kicked much faster and instead of Rey winning she holds her for a little bit but gets overwhelmed before they get separated.

Yes, Chewie fucked his world up via bow shot is a valid defense BUT obviously the story is better with him being a bigger badass by raping Finn and beating Rey even with the bow shot.

What were the writers thinking??

 

[BVG]

People hate on C3PO but that scene made me laugh out loud. Classic threepio

Classic 3p0 but didn't need a different colored arm that I see as toy placement. He could have said anything looking the exact same as he did in the final shot...and still had been classic 3p0.

I looked into that red arm, thinking they were playing fan service to some cartoon canon back story...and it's really just a "hey it's been some time, 3p0's old...we wanted to showcase that by having him wearing replacement limbs that didn't match the rest of his pieces in color..."


and then the last shot shows that they finally found him a gold arm...

yup! toy placement.

 

[240p]

luke had better be op as fuck, like have saber in hand and another than he he controls with the force float around and wreck like an invisible swordsman.
not just he 's so strong in the force he can lift bigger stuff. really hope he's not like yoda in the OT, we need some next level shit.

 

[BAM]

Hayden can't act at all, no way Disney lets him have more than a few lines in a flashback. They ain't bringing that mothefucker back.

 

[BAM]

luke had better be op as fuck, like have saber in hand and another than he he controls with the force float around and wreck like an invisible swordsman.
not just he 's so strong in the force he can lift bigger stuff. really hope he's not like yoda in the OT, we need some next level shit.

Luke looking like that fat drunk bum in the bar who used to be good at high school football 30 years ago and can't move on.

 

[Dizzy]

Classic 3p0 but didn't need a different colored arm that I see as toy placement. He could have said anything looking the exact same as he did in the final shot...and still had been classic 3p0.

I looked into that red arm, thinking they were playing fan service to some cartoon canon back story...and it's really just a "hey it's been some time, 3p0's old...we wanted to showcase that by having him wearing replacement limbs that didn't match the rest of his pieces in color..."


and then the last shot shows that they finally found him a gold arm...

yup! toy placement.

 

[BAM]

Despite defending the Ren vs Rey + Finn battle, I do somewhat question what the writers were thinking when they made that scene. Like even the guys defending battle like myself, I can admit it would've been better if Finn got his ass kicked much faster and instead of Rey winning she holds her for a little bit but gets overwhelmed before they get separated.

Yes, Chewie fucked his world up via bow shot is a valid defense BUT obviously the story is better with him being a bigger badass by raping Finn and beating Rey even with the bow shot.

What were the writers thinking??

probably that having lost Ren will be even more desperate and more willing to go even further down the dark path to get more power. It's a common theme in these types of stories. By the third movie he will either be god-tier bad guy or a flipped good guy. Ren will surpass him, of course.

 

[240p]

Luke looking like that fat drunk bum in the bar who used to be good at high school football 30 years ago and can't move on.

al bundy as a jedi master