Spike gets rid of PBC

[JayE]

Is Spike still something people watch?

 

[Queen B]

Not a big loss imo... I rarely watch Spike anymore. I can't remember what PBC fights they had on there. I think they had Algieri vs. Khan, but I can't remember what others they had.

I dont think its a huge loss either but the fact that PBC was dropped doesnt make it look good for another networks considering a network a deal with PBC

 

[Queen B]

Spike, NBC, and other networks bailing on PBC

This is the last year of PBC I thinks, which at minimum was a 3 year plan anyway

 

[DannyNL]

That sucks. RIP PBC, lots of great moments

 

[Marc A]

Interesting turn of events , I am curious to see how Haymon and investors take this lesson amd improve on the management and marketing end of things

Nothing new , a business venture going through tough times . Now we get to see how committed Haymon is to his vision and if he is then we will see greater things to come

I am sure a certain banker is reaching out

 

[Mr2urbo]

Spike spokesman David Schwarz disputed the portion of the ESPN.com story that stated Spike executives were unhappy with the quality of fights PBC offered as part of the series. “Spike and the PBC have enjoyed a very successful relationship with great fights, featuring high production values,” Schwarz said in a statement released to boxingscene.com

“The network was very satisfied with the quality of fights that produced strong ratings and many memorable moments. Any inference to the contrary is inaccurate. Now that our 2-year deal is complete, we are having ongoing discussions to potentially air future events that make sense for both parties.”

Schwarz also said the network wants to televise more Bellator MMA cards. Bellator is owned by Viacom, also Spike’s parent company. “We have a great relationship and running dialogue with Al and the PBC,” Schwarz told ESPN.com. “

"Our focus is on Bellator right now, but if the right fight arises we are all ears.” Spike soon will be renamed The Paramount Network as part of a rebranding initiative by Viacom and will focus more on scripted entertainment than in the past.



**** Looks like some misleading information from the espn article!!!



http://www.boxingscene.com/spike-tv...-champions-ended--115552#sthash.yZCrygXp.dpuf

Glad you brought that up cause I forgot about all that, they are going to revamp their image and demographic target next year, and dont forget Viacom also owns Showtime who have strong ties with PBC and Haymon

Cable tv is going through a rough time right now (eventually becoming obsolete) because of Netflix and stand alone premium channels that offered through streaming, infact PBC and Showtime boxing being offered for a low monthly subscription isnt a far fetched idea.

 

[rerun406]

well it does, but its not for the causal. casuals love drama. that's why diaz Mcgregor makes money, why mayweather makes money , etc."

I don't think it's just the drama that draw people in. He's (Conor) a bigger name and well known, everything he does is newsworthy. Look how many views and comments a simple video of McGregor sparring net. Boxing purists will pin point the quality of McGregor's stand up in the videos, but that's not the point a sparring video generates a ton of interest.

The Contender, it started on NBC on Primetime, but only lasted 1 season there because of bad ratings. They moved to ESPN for like 3 more seasons and it was axed.

The show was shit because the fights were all edited with music. It started the same time as TUF 1 started and Dana was poking fun at that show

Agree x100. It's like the actual fight isn't interesting enough so lets edit it down, throw in some background music and of course SLOWWWWW MOTION ... SMH ..

If I remember correctly it was Season 2 ( K9, Grady Brewer, Stevie Forbes) or 3 (Sakio Bika, David Banks, Sam Soliman, Jaidon Cordington) that was the first to show full length fights and when I watched a couple I noticed the crowd BOOING. So yeah if you edit the fights, add some music and sound effects and all that jazz you get rid of the boos, but you end up with a much more artificial result. bad look for the sport. You shouldn't have to edit down 5 round fights.

Really sucks about PBC, because with Spike gone, expect the other networks to follow. I'm not gonna pretend to be a network exec (love that line)

but with the PBC format, I'd prefer quality over quantity. Instead of expanding all over the place (NBC, ABC, FS1, Bounce, Spike, ESPN)

Why not start on 1-2 Networks with the best match ups you can, and go from there? Avoid wasting time/money on filler cards because PBC isn't anywhere near an established brand like the UFC

 

[null]

I always find Queen B's posts so distasteful because he almost seems like he is rubbing his hands together giddily and is so happy when he posts negative things about boxing tv ratings or television deals, especially if they concern the PBC.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Glad you brought that up cause I forgot about all that, they are going to revamp their image and demographic target next year, and dont forget Viacom also owns Showtime who have strong ties with PBC and Haymon

Cable tv is going through a rough time right now (eventually becoming obsolete) because of Netflix and stand alone premium channels that offered through streaming, infact PBC and Showtime boxing being offered for a low monthly subscription isnt a far fetched idea.

The way Netflix is throwing around money for new content and talent its only a matter of time before they get into sports.
Netflix and Youtube seem perfect for boxing. Cant wait to eventually a promotion tries this exclusively.

 

[Shoemaker]

Is Spike still something people watch?

You don't watch it so much as it invades you.

 

[JayE]

I always find Queen B's posts so distasteful because he almost seems like he is rubbing his hands together giddily and is so happy when he posts negative things about boxing tv ratings or television deals, especially if they concern the PBC.

He does the same thing with MMA ratings in the heavies. He trolls wherever he goes. Why someone would put this much effort into trolling about something as obscure as combat sports ratings is a question that I choose not to put that much time into. I figure it's better that he's being this strange on the internet as opposed to being this strange in real life.

 

[Queen B]

I always find Queen B's posts so distasteful because he almost seems like he is rubbing his hands together giddily and is so happy when he posts negative things about boxing tv ratings or television deals, especially if they concern the PBC.

Its not negativity. I just posted facts in this thread.

PBC had some good fights, but lots of terrible decisions. None of us have to like it, but we have no choice but to support it and cheer for its success, because it is in a position to carry the sport.





Here's a quote from Kathy Duva this morning.

If you dont know, Kathy Duva got a paid network deal with NBCSN and was building up people like Kovalev in her shows. PBC came along and NBCSN dumped her shows. Now it sounds like shes not even sure NBCSN will renew her network deal with them because of their recent bad experience with boxing.

‘I’m not afraid Al (Haymon) will succeed. I’m afraid he will fail.’ If he succeeded and the world decided boxing was the number two sport in America – I would only profit from that. The fear was that he would fail and the networks would lose interest and sadly that is exactly what happened.

http://ucnlive.com/breakfast-roosevelt-hotel-ms-duva/

 

[Queen B]

The way Netflix is throwing around money for new content and talent its only a matter of time before they get into sports.
Netflix and Youtube seem perfect for boxing. Cant wait to eventually a promotion tries this exclusively.

Supposedly they were in serious talks about distributing the Pacquiao vs Bradley 3 PPV.

However they dont do any live regular shows as far as I know.

 

[Sunfish]

Supposedly they were in serious talks about distributing the Pacquiao vs Bradley 3 PPV.

However they dont do any live regular shows as far as I know.

Dude all you do is complain about cards, rejoice at poor viewing figures and practically gave every card that underperformed in pbc a standing ovation, you're very transparent.

 

[WklySportsMemes]

Supposedly they were in serious talks about distributing the Pacquiao vs Bradley 3 PPV.

However they dont do any live regular shows as far as I know.

Wow thats promising. Live streaming shouldn't be that hard for them especially since YouTubes been doing it easily for a while.
I think you can even live stream UFC PPV on youtube now.

 

[CatchnShoot]

lol... Viacom is getting rid of Spike

 

[Mob69]

Al Haymon seems to have used the PBC concept as a device to get hundreds of millions of hedge fund dollars and pay it *to himself* as both manager of all the fighters (15-20% cut per fighter I'd guess) and producer of the project. I mean he sets the purses himself, and then pays himself 20%, using someone else's money.

This is a mafia-type scheme.

 

[CatchnShoot]

I said it when the funding was first revealed for PBC... if it isn't illegal, if fucking well should be.
To me it seems like those investors were defrauded.

 

[Sunfish]

So you are both out there accusing someone of fraud, hope you have good legal teams.

 

[rerun406]

Its not negativity. I just posted facts in this thread.

PBC had some good fights, but lots of terrible decisions. None of us have to like it, but we have no choice but to support it and cheer for its success, because it is in a position to carry the sport.



Here's a quote from Kathy Duva this morning.

If you dont know, Kathy Duva got a paid network deal with NBCSN and was building up people like Kovalev in her shows. PBC came along and NBCSN dumped her shows. Now it sounds like shes not even sure NBCSN will renew her network deal with them because of their recent bad experience with boxing.


http://ucnlive.com/breakfast-roosevelt-hotel-ms-duva/

** ^ I find it kinda funny how nobody has any rude snotty remarks for this.