Hi I've seen many threads where people say not to do weights on days that you spar. But I tried this out due to time constraints the other day (squats and bench 3x5 and deadlift 1x5 at 7am then sparred 830pm) and felt fine. If I feel ok can I keep doing it or will it lead to fatigue in the future if I make a habit out of it?
Sparring and weights on same day?
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I just did a bunch of squats and deadlifts tonight and got roped in to fighter sparring straight after. I was only planning to help some goofy dude out with stand up, but I ended up doing 5 intense rounds before hand, and I can honestly vouch that the lifting took a hit out of my sparring conditioning. I gassed quickly.
I think a lot of it has to do with CNS activity more than energy or muscular fatigue. Compound lifts fry your CNS, and striking is heavily reliant on CNS activity. My kicks also felt slower and lethargic.
If anything, I think I'll keep any lifting to after MMA training if I'm going to do so on the same day.
I think a lot of it has to do with CNS activity more than energy or muscular fatigue. Compound lifts fry your CNS, and striking is heavily reliant on CNS activity. My kicks also felt slower and lethargic.
If anything, I think I'll keep any lifting to after MMA training if I'm going to do so on the same day.
I felt ok during sparring but I had a 13 hour rest window of doing nothing but my office job in between the lifting and sparring. I guess it's also because it wasn't intense sparring and I'm not going all out during my lifting since I just started up again. Thanks guys
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Try it, see how it goes, and adjust or quit if it's not working out. Lifting in the morning, and then sparring in the evening with that much of a time between is certainly possible, provided you are eating plenty to support it. Do Not actively try to lose weight while doing this. If it was lifting, slamming a protein shake, and then driving to the kickboxing gym I'd say to drop it, but you have close to 12 hours to recover in this set-up. Just accept that your gains won't be as much, and you likely won't be able to spar for as long or as hard as you would have been able to otherwise. You'll improve slowly at both, rather than rapidly in one so up to you
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Nope....
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This really might be different from person to person. Everyone recovers at a different rate. Some guys might never have the gas to lift and spar in one day. As a general rule for most, though, it can be done.
It would still be best not to schedule your training sessions back to back. A few hours of rest between lifting and sparring would be ideal.
You might be able to lift and train on the same day, but schedule your lifting sessions for technique days at the fight gym. That way you're not fatigued for sparring.
The biggest reason I can think of to lift and spar on different days is confidence. The confidence you build from performing at your best in sparring sessions (because you're rested and full of energy) is huge for fighters!
In the end, I guess it's a matter of preference. Just be careful to keep the big picture in mind- get plenty of rest days, eat and sleep right. Take recovery seriously, and don't over-train.
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It would still be best not to schedule your training sessions back to back. A few hours of rest between lifting and sparring would be ideal.
You might be able to lift and train on the same day, but schedule your lifting sessions for technique days at the fight gym. That way you're not fatigued for sparring.
The biggest reason I can think of to lift and spar on different days is confidence. The confidence you build from performing at your best in sparring sessions (because you're rested and full of energy) is huge for fighters!
In the end, I guess it's a matter of preference. Just be careful to keep the big picture in mind- get plenty of rest days, eat and sleep right. Take recovery seriously, and don't over-train.
Joe
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If you're a fighter, you're better off getting more benefit from the sparring than from the squats and deadlifts.
SPP should always take place over GPP.
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What ever happened to adapting to increased training demands? Lately everybody "fries their CNS" as if CNS fatigue is as common as navel lint. This has become the equivalent excuse of chicks who "just want to tone." Suck it the fuck up.
To put it into perspective, at 45 - 46 years of age, I was able to do Sheiko MS and CMS programs while striking five days a week and rolling twice. Yeah, it sucked, and I was sore, but guess what? I worked harder and learned to deal with it.
Any more guys don't want to squat because it will "fry their CNS" prior to kicking, GTG will "fry their CNS" and compromise their ability to do pushups, for fucks sake, and possibly heavy overhead pressing will fry their CNS and compromise their ability to perform fellatio upon random amphibians or something equally stupid.
People can damn well adapt to increased training demands, unless, of course, the only time their family tree encountered testicles was when they were bouncing off someone's chin.
People really need to understand what CNS fatigue is. It sure as hell is not "I felt tired."
Saw title of thread and knew Eric Brown would reply with "When did everyone become giant &$@!#. Just @$&!'n train"
That you have to talk about this daily, just on this forum, in regards to programming leads me to believe there must be an infinite amount of people out there who have "fried CNS disease" :-(
That you have to talk about this daily, just on this forum, in regards to programming leads me to believe there must be an infinite amount of people out there who have "fried CNS disease" :-(
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If someone's past the novice stage, and lifting enough weights where the output is of consequence, I would actually advise doing your heaviest sparring in a week and heaviest lifting on the same day. Consolidating stressors helps make sure the rest/recovery days actually get to be light days.
Unless you're in competition prep, in which case you could ruthlessly cut out anything that isn't sport specific.
Unless you're in competition prep, in which case you could ruthlessly cut out anything that isn't sport specific.
