***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY***

Someone(Sherbro) went to his room and he said he was okay and didn't need anything - Though this potentially has implications if any of his story is true..

He has also communicated since the threads were made on Instagram Chat.. Though all of this was hours ago now.. And also along the same panicky lines as OP.

He's not been back on Sherdog since the threads(originally 3) were made, at least on this account.

I think someone should maybe try to communicate to him via Instagram again.
He's just having a manic episode and is for sure on thai meth.
 
I ignored this thread when it was brand new and was shocked just now to see it was 71 fuckin pages. thought holy shit, this must be a serious SOS? figured it was just a joke/troll by the title

can someone give me a cliffs rundown of what has taken place over this massive ass thread?

@jojoRed
 
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TS reminds me of Tweek now that you bring that up.
 
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There are many many stories about this guy back in Canada.
I dont want to get much into it, but in general, amongst the fight community in Montreal (mid to high level amateurs and coaches) he is regarded as a joke and a fraud.

His Muay Thai technique is iffy, and his record and fight history is questionable at best. If one were to research his fight record you would find maybe one or two amateur Muay Thai fights where he claims he was in “division A”. The Muay Thai scene in Montreal was so small back then that there was no division of skill. If anything everyone was division c or lower.

As a professional MMA fighter I believe he has a losing record (no big deal) and his last few fights were cancelled last minute. One of those fights i heard he cancelled minutes before his walkout.

As a coach, he claims an outrageous record of hundred and hundreds of wins in a very short amount of time. I don’t think there were even enough events in Canada to match the amount of wins he says he has.

All that being said, some of those in Montreal who are aware of his current story and plea for help believe he is trying to pull a scam to make some money.

Well he did run afoul Liam Harrison back in 2019



unless there two Josh harleys that used to run Muay Thai gyms in Montreal.

Also the math doesn’t really add up. He says he’s been living in Thailand for 6 years and has kids but this seminar was in 2019?


https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/st-henr...ggers-calls-for-more-police-patrols-1.3521451

A St. Henri resident is calling for more police patrols along the Lachine Canal after two people tried to mug him.

Joshua Harley was walking home from work Tuesday when he was approached by two men.

"The one guy said to give him everything I had in my pocket, and the other guy stepped forward," said Harley.

When one of them stepped closer to him, he lashed out.

The martial arts instructor and Mixed Martial Arts fighter grabbed one man and knocked him to the ground, prompting the other man to flee.

"I have a black belt in karate, I've done Muy Thai for 17-18 years, I've fought professionally in Muy Thai and mixed martial arts so I've been around the block," he said.

Harley then called police and explained what happened.

It's not an approach Harley recommends to everyone, but as he pointed out, he specifically trains to fight.

Eight months ago, following a rash of attacks in the neighbourhood, including an assault on a 22-year-old, Harley began offering self-defence courses at his gym, Tritton Performance/Harley Muay Thai.

Harley said it would be better to improve lighting around the canal, and for police to increase their foot patrols in the region.

But police say walking on the street is a safer option.

"If you can walk on the street it's better for you, the lighting is more persistent, there are more people, but if people feel safe going on the bike path it's okay for them, but one thing is for sure, we won't be able to take our car at night and patrol the bike path," said officer Sylvain Parent.

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Created an account just to write this.

I've known this guy semi-personally. Josh is notorious in Montreal for being a fraudster and a complete liar. He constantly lies about his marital arts credentials, experience, fights. Check his record.

He constantly scammed people in Canada, has scammed people in Thailand (according to here-say). He opened a gym with a partner (with his then fiancées money, he never had money) with zero fight credentials or experience to teach others. A good example is: he was supposed to host a seminar for Liam Harrison in Montreal. He flaked out, left his gym partner and took everyones money for the seminar and left Liam out to dry. Thats when he left to Thailand (I think this was in 2019). Liam actually posted about Josh on his FB account about him being a scammer and a liar. He has not been in Thailand for 6 years, thats 100% (Its about 1.5 years now, more lies). I have nothing against the dude, but I'm very iffy about him being victimized. It could easily be a scam. If it was anyone else, I would give them the benefit of the doubt, but Josh is a shady character.

If you ask me, with the history of rumors that he was scamming Canadians in Thailand, my assumption is that he was dabbling in some shady activities with locals and got himself into hot water.

I'd like to reiterate that I've known this guy and I have nothing against him personally. He did some very backhanded/dishonest things to people who have helped him out and it's coming back to him. I just feel people should understand who this person is. I hope he's ok and I'm not surprised.

I'll gladly answer questions if anyone has about this guy.



The timing of the new account makes sense imo.

He fucked over some people in in the MMA community in 2019 and made a new account because he no longer wanted to post under his real name.

He figured they would go all Bullshido on his ass like our new friends @Mookimooki @FongWong if he kept posting under his real name with Pro Fighter tags.

Also has an old Youtube account


He got kicked out of this gym, then another one in Montreal for refusing to fight his opponents the day-of.

He lies so much that he cannot keep up with it

Some of his fighters did well, but the ones that did had training at other gyms previously.

He also used a Zapp Brannigan type strategy where he would sign up wave after wave of people to fight then post about the ones that won.

He preached basics but had none himself.

He criticized and insulted “flashy moves” but would post up his own “flashy moves” he “invented” on his social media.


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She actually woke him up. He was sleeping. He was groggy when I talked to him. He’s like, “Who are you?” I told him “You posted on sherdog that you needed help. A bunch of sherbros are worried.” He said, “I’m good.” Asking him if he needed anything and he said no.

Girlfriend (or a Thai woman) seemed fine. She was the one who opened the door. When he came to the doorway, she walked away out of sight. Both seemed really mellow and relaxed. So relaxed I assumed Joshua was napping but apparently he wasn’t.

Interesting.. I knocked hard on the door 3 times before the woman opened it (which is why I assumed I woke them up). Did he say he was ok? He didn’t say anything about the stuff he wrote you. Guy needs help.
 
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This is my opinion on TS (Joshua Harley), why I decided to contact him, and what happened. At approximately 3:45pm-ish (Bangkok time - Los Angeles time would be 12:45am) I was on the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit Line returning from the immigration satellite office in northwestern Bangkok As I normally do, I opened the Sherdog forum to catch up on mma news. As an aside, the only forum I go on (mma or otherwise) is Sherdog because 1) mma is the only sport I watch, and 2) you guys are not only entertaining as fk, but always provide good mma info.

The first thread that caught my eye was Joshua’s ***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY*** post. I read his post, and what immediately caught my attention was his location. As I was reading it, the skytrain happened to be approaching Nana Station (the area Joshua stated he was at). I thought to myself, what are the chances of that. There were only two pages so far on his post, so my thought was his posting was relatively current.

I got off at my stop (2 stops from Nana), and messaged my friend in Los Angeles (see photo). I told him no way I’m going to get involved with this sh#t even though I am close. I walked back to my hotel and read a few more pages to see what my fellow Sherbros were doing. Many of you were sending emails to the Canadian embassy and contacting whoever you could to help.

I settled in and I thought about the situation. My gut said the Thai mafia isn’t going to kill him…at least not today. I thought he may in fact have gotten involved with the wrong people, and be in some sort of trouble though. But based on prior experience, what I believed was Joshua was having some type of drug triggered paranoia and/or maybe a schizophrenic type episode (I’m not sure on the exact medical verbiage so my apologies in regards to mental illness).

I thought to myself, the guy definitely needs some type of help. I’ll swing by the hotel, and assess it from the outside. If it seems relatively safe, I’ll make sure he doesn’t need medical help. If anything gets remotely sketchy, I’ll back out and call the police. That was my basic plan.

Around 5pm-ish I headed out to Soi 4 (about a 30 minute walk from my location). When I got relatively close, I typed “White Orchid Inn) on Google Maps. A location near Soi 7 popped up (nothing on Soi 4). In the back of my mind the fact (or so I thought at the time) Joshua got his location wrong further solidify my opinion Joshua was having a paranoia/mental/episode. During this time, @GearSolidMetal (a Sherbro) was conversing with Joshua online and trying to help Joshua.

I got to where Google Maps was directing me, but there was no White Orchid Inn. There was a hotel there, but it was called Syama. The business to the right of Syama is a massage parlor. A ladyboy and a lady were sitting outside waiting for customers. They could see I looked perplexed, and asked me what I was looking for. I showed them the map with White Orchid Inn. The ladyboy looked at the map, and after trying to figure it out, he told me it’s probably on Soi 7.

I walked around Soi 7 and the surrounding area, but no luck. Soi 7 is an area full of bars, billiards, and prostitutes. I ended up back at Syama. The ladyboy and lady both asked me to show them the map again. After doing some searches in Thai, they concluded the White Orchid Inn had renamed to Syama.

I thanked them for their help, and reported to you guys that this whole thing was probably a load of sh#t. Just in case, I headed over to Soi 4 (the street Joshua gave as his location) to see if there was a White Orchid Inn that wasn’t popping up on Google Maps. Soi 4 is a few minutes from Soi 7. I did not see a White Orchid Inn.

As I was getting ready to leave, a Sherbro posted a link to a White Orchid Inn on Agoda (a hotel booking website) and asked me “What about here?” The location was about a minute from me, so I walked over…and there it was.

The location is down a small alley off of Soi 4. I looked down the alley, and it seemed quiet. There were two older ladies sitting by the White Orchid Inn chatting and a kitty cat chilling in front. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I stepped inside the small front lobby area. There was a guy with glasses and longer than average hair for a guy sitting at the front desk. He was looking at something on his phone and barely paid any attention to me walking in. I did not see anyone else. I asked him, “Is Joshua Harley here?” Without skipping a beat, he said “202.” Based on the way he said “202” I surmised this guy speaks English pretty well.

I thanked him and walked back out. At this point I let you guys know Joshua was where he said he was. I thought of a few options, and what I would do in case of each option.

I walked around the perimeter of the place again, this time with more attention to detail since Joshua’s story about his location had some credibility now. Again, nothing noteworthy that caught my eye.

I walked back in, and asked the front desk guy “Can you call up to Joshua and have him come down? I just want to make sure he’s ok.” Again, without skipping a beat or looking up from his phone, the guys said something to the effect of “Up to you to go see him.”

Okay, plan B. I did a quick assessment of the first floor (not hard to do since it was so small), and then walked up the small stairwell to the 2nd floor. To the left of the stairwell exit on the second floor were a couple rooms, and a couple rooms to the right of the exit. Joshua’s room was to the right of the stairwell exit. It is a tiny hotel. I paused and listened. It was quiet.

I knocked on the door and retreated into the stairwell to get some distance and cover as well as an avenue of escape. No answer. I knocked again and said, “Joshua, you in there? Are you okay?” I could hear some movement.

I knocked a third time and asked if he was okay again. I could hear more movement. A Thai woman opened the door. From what I recall, she was wearing a brown casual dress. She looked somewhat disheveled and older. Her demeanor was calm, and nonchalant. Nothing that alerted me. I asked her if Joshua was there. She looked over her shoulder and called over to Joshua and told him someone was here for him. I could hear movement, and a guy walked to the doorway. He was wearing white shorts or boxers and had no shirt on. The first thing I noticed was he had tattoos on his arms. The reason the arms got my attention is I immediately directed my attention to his hands when he came to the doorway. If anything will get you, it’s the hands. He also seemed disheveled and half awake. I asked him if he was Joshua and if he was okay. He said, “Yeah….for now. Who are you?” I told him he posted a help message on Sherdog and had people worried. I asked him, “For now? What do you mean? Are you okay?” He responded, “Yeah…yeah, I’m okay.” I said, “Are you sure? You need anything?” He responded, “No, I’m good. I’m going to shower and get going,” He was somewhat mumbling and seemed half awake. I told him take care and then left.

There were no apparent signs he was being held against his will. He didn’t seem afraid or in need of anything urgent. There were no signs of anything suspicious at the hotel. He didn’t seem to need medical attention. He answered all my questions coherently enough for me to be satisfied he was okay. And so I left. My plan was if he seemed disoriented I was going to call for EMS, and if anything seemed remotely dangerous I was going to call LE.

This is just my opinion…. I’ve seen people in the past use drugs, and the drugs trigger some type of paranoia. The paranoia can last long after the drugs wear off. I don’t know if the drugs can act as a catalyst to trigger mental illness like paranoia or schizophrenia, but it seems that way. The cases I’ve seen all have the same elements… people are doing things to set you up, people are after you to harm you or kill you, people are watching you….

I hope Joshua gets some help. From what I’ve read from other posters, he seems like a decent dude who just got involved with bad people and bad substances. It was good to see many Sherbros contacting whoever they could to help someone in potential danger. Stay safe Sherbros. Crazy world we live in. Thank goodness there are people willing to duke it out in a cage to give us temporary reprieve from the craziness of life.
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This is my opinion on TS (Joshua Harley), why I decided to contact him, and what happened. At approximately 3:45pm-ish (Bangkok time - Los Angeles time would be 12:45am) I was on the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit Line returning from the immigration satellite office in northwestern Bangkok As I normally do, I opened the Sherdog forum to catch up on mma news. As an aside, the only forum I go on (mma or otherwise) is Sherdog because 1) mma is the only sport I watch, and 2) you guys are not only entertaining as fk, but always provide good mma info.

The first thread that caught my eye was Joshua’s ***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY*** post. I read his post, and what immediately caught my attention was his location. As I was reading it, the skytrain happened to be approaching Nana Station (the area Joshua stated he was at). I thought to myself, what are the chances of that. There were only two pages so far on his post, so my thought was his posting was relatively current.

I got off at my stop (2 stops from Nana), and messaged my friend in Los Angeles (see photo). I told him no way I’m going to get involved with this sh#t even though I am close. I walked back to my hotel and read a few more pages to see what my fellow Sherbros were doing. Many of you were sending emails to the Canadian embassy and contacting whoever you could to help.

I settled in and I thought about the situation. My gut said the Thai mafia isn’t going to kill him…at least not today. I thought he may in fact have gotten involved with the wrong people, and be in some sort of trouble though. But based on prior experience, what I believed was Joshua was having some type of drug triggered paranoia and/or maybe a schizophrenic type episode (I’m not sure on the exact medical verbiage so my apologies in regards to mental illness).

I thought to myself, the guy definitely needs some type of help. I’ll swing by the hotel, and assess it from the outside. If it seems relatively safe, I’ll make sure he doesn’t need medical help. If anything gets remotely sketchy, I’ll back out and call the police. That was my basic plan.

Around 5pm-ish I headed out to Soi 4 (about a 30 minute walk from my location). When I got relatively close, I typed “White Orchid Inn) on Google Maps. A location near Soi 7 popped up (nothing on Soi 4). In the back of my mind the fact (or so I thought at the time) Joshua got his location wrong further solidify my opinion Joshua was having a paranoia/mental/episode. During this time, Metal Gear Solid (a Sherbro) was conversing with Joshua online and trying to help Joshua.

I got to where Google Maps was directing me, but there was no White Orchid Inn. There was a hotel there, but it was called Syama. The business to the right of Syama is a massage parlor. A ladyboy and a lady were sitting outside waiting for customers. They could see I looked perplexed, and asked me what I was looking for. I showed them the map with White Orchid Inn. The ladyboy looked at the map, and after trying to figure it out, he told me it’s probably on Soi 7.

I walked around Soi 7 and the surrounding area, but no luck. Soi 7 is an area full of bars, billiards, and prostitutes. I ended up back at Syama. The ladyboy and lady both asked me to show them the map again. After doing some searches in Thai, they concluded the White Orchid Inn had renamed to Syama.

I thanked them for their help, and reported to you guys that this whole thing was probably a load of sh#t. Just in case, I headed over to Soi 4 (the street Joshua gave as his location) to see if there was a White Orchid Inn that wasn’t popping up on Google Maps. Soi 4 is a few minutes from Soi 7. I did not see a White Orchid Inn.

As I was getting ready to leave, a Sherbro posted a link to a White Orchid Inn on Agoda (a hotel booking website) and asked me “What about here?” The location was about a minute from me, so I walked over…and there it was.

The location is down a small alley off of Soi 4. I looked down the alley, and it seemed quiet. There were two older ladies sitting by the White Orchid Inn chatting and a kitty cat chilling in front. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I stepped inside the small front lobby area. There was a guy with glasses and longer than average hair for a guy sitting at the front desk. He was looking at something on his phone and barely paid any attention to me walking in. I did not see anyone else. I asked him, “Is Joshua Harley here?” Without skipping a beat, he said “202.” Based on the way he said “202” I surmised this guy speaks English pretty well.

I thanked him and walked back out. At this point I let you guys know Joshua was where he said he was. I thought of a few options, and what I would do in case of each option.

I walked around the perimeter of the place again, this time with more attention to detail since Joshua’s story about his location had some credibility now. Again, nothing noteworthy that caught my eye.

I walked back in, and asked the front desk guy “Can you call up to Joshua and have him come down? I just want to make sure he’s ok.” Again, without skipping a beat or looking up from his phone, the guys said something to the effect of “Up to you to go see him.”

Okay, plan B. I did a quick assessment of the first floor (not hard to do since it was so small), and then walked up the small stairwell to the 2nd floor. To the left of the stairwell exit on the second floor were a couple rooms, and a couple rooms to the right of the exit. Joshua’s room was to the right of the stairwell exit. It is a tiny hotel. I paused and listened. It was quiet.

I knocked on the door and retreated into the stairwell to get some distance and cover as well as an avenue of escape. No answer. I knocked again and said, “Joshua, you in there? Are you okay?” I could hear some movement.

I knocked a third time and asked if he was okay again. I could hear more movement. A Thai woman opened the door. From what I recall, she was wearing a brown casual dress. She looked somewhat disheveled and older. Her demeanor was calm, and nonchalant. Nothing that alerted me. I asked her if Joshua was there. She looked over her shoulder and called over to Joshua and told him someone was here for him. I could hear movement, and a guy walked to the doorway. He was wearing white shorts or boxers and had no shirt on. The first thing I noticed was he had tattoos on his arms. The reason the arms got my attention is I immediately directed my attention to his hands when he came to the doorway. If anything will get you, it’s the hands. He also seemed disheveled and half awake. I asked him if he was Joshua and if he was okay. He said, “Yeah….for now. Who are you?” I told him he posted a help message on Sherdog and had people worried. I asked him, “For now? What do you mean? Are you okay?” He responded, “Yeah…yeah, I’m okay.” I said, “Are you sure? You need anything?” He responded, “No, I’m good. I’m going to shower and get going,” He was somewhat mumbling and seemed half awake. I told him take care and then left.

There were no apparent signs he was being held against his will. He didn’t seem afraid or in need of anything urgent. There were no signs of anything suspicious at the hotel. He didn’t seem to need medical attention. He answered all my questions coherently enough for me to be satisfied he was okay. And so I left. My plan was if he seemed disoriented I was going to call for EMS, and if anything seemed remotely dangerous I was going to call LE.

This is just my opinion…. I’ve seen people in the past use drugs, and the drugs trigger some type of paranoia. The paranoia can last long after the drugs wear off. I don’t know if the drugs can act as a catalyst to trigger mental illness like paranoia or schizophrenia, but it seems that way. The cases I’ve seen all have the same elements… people are doing things to set you up, people are after you to harm you or kill you, people are watching you….

I hope Joshua gets some help. From what I’ve read from other posters, he seems like a decent dude who just got involved with bad people and bad substances. It was good to see many Sherbros contacting whoever they could to help someone in potential danger. Stay safe Sherbros. Crazy world we live in. Thank goodness there are people willing to duke it out in a cage to give us temporary reprieve from the craziness of life.
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This is my opinion on TS (Joshua Harley), why I decided to contact him, and what happened. At approximately 3:45pm-ish (Bangkok time - Los Angeles time would be 12:45am) I was on the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit Line returning from the immigration satellite office in northwestern Bangkok As I normally do, I opened the Sherdog forum to catch up on mma news. As an aside, the only forum I go on (mma or otherwise) is Sherdog because 1) mma is the only sport I watch, and 2) you guys are not only entertaining as fk, but always provide good mma info.

The first thread that caught my eye was Joshua’s ***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY*** post. I read his post, and what immediately caught my attention was his location. As I was reading it, the skytrain happened to be approaching Nana Station (the area Joshua stated he was at). I thought to myself, what are the chances of that. There were only two pages so far on his post, so my thought was his posting was relatively current.

I got off at my stop (2 stops from Nana), and messaged my friend in Los Angeles (see photo). I told him no way I’m going to get involved with this sh#t even though I am close. I walked back to my hotel and read a few more pages to see what my fellow Sherbros were doing. Many of you were sending emails to the Canadian embassy and contacting whoever you could to help.

I settled in and I thought about the situation. My gut said the Thai mafia isn’t going to kill him…at least not today. I thought he may in fact have gotten involved with the wrong people, and be in some sort of trouble though. But based on prior experience, what I believed was Joshua was having some type of drug triggered paranoia and/or maybe a schizophrenic type episode (I’m not sure on the exact medical verbiage so my apologies in regards to mental illness).

I thought to myself, the guy definitely needs some type of help. I’ll swing by the hotel, and assess it from the outside. If it seems relatively safe, I’ll make sure he doesn’t need medical help. If anything gets remotely sketchy, I’ll back out and call the police. That was my basic plan.

Around 5pm-ish I headed out to Soi 4 (about a 30 minute walk from my location). When I got relatively close, I typed “White Orchid Inn) on Google Maps. A location near Soi 7 popped up (nothing on Soi 4). In the back of my mind the fact (or so I thought at the time) Joshua got his location wrong further solidify my opinion Joshua was having a paranoia/mental/episode. During this time, Metal Gear Solid (a Sherbro) was conversing with Joshua online and trying to help Joshua.

I got to where Google Maps was directing me, but there was no White Orchid Inn. There was a hotel there, but it was called Syama. The business to the right of Syama is a massage parlor. A ladyboy and a lady were sitting outside waiting for customers. They could see I looked perplexed, and asked me what I was looking for. I showed them the map with White Orchid Inn. The ladyboy looked at the map, and after trying to figure it out, he told me it’s probably on Soi 7.

I walked around Soi 7 and the surrounding area, but no luck. Soi 7 is an area full of bars, billiards, and prostitutes. I ended up back at Syama. The ladyboy and lady both asked me to show them the map again. After doing some searches in Thai, they concluded the White Orchid Inn had renamed to Syama.

I thanked them for their help, and reported to you guys that this whole thing was probably a load of sh#t. Just in case, I headed over to Soi 4 (the street Joshua gave as his location) to see if there was a White Orchid Inn that wasn’t popping up on Google Maps. Soi 4 is a few minutes from Soi 7. I did not see a White Orchid Inn.

As I was getting ready to leave, a Sherbro posted a link to a White Orchid Inn on Agoda (a hotel booking website) and asked me “What about here?” The location was about a minute from me, so I walked over…and there it was.

The location is down a small alley off of Soi 4. I looked down the alley, and it seemed quiet. There were two older ladies sitting by the White Orchid Inn chatting and a kitty cat chilling in front. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I stepped inside the small front lobby area. There was a guy with glasses and longer than average hair for a guy sitting at the front desk. He was looking at something on his phone and barely paid any attention to me walking in. I did not see anyone else. I asked him, “Is Joshua Harley here?” Without skipping a beat, he said “202.” Based on the way he said “202” I surmised this guy speaks English pretty well.

I thanked him and walked back out. At this point I let you guys know Joshua was where he said he was. I thought of a few options, and what I would do in case of each option.

I walked around the perimeter of the place again, this time with more attention to detail since Joshua’s story about his location had some credibility now. Again, nothing noteworthy that caught my eye.

I walked back in, and asked the front desk guy “Can you call up to Joshua and have him come down? I just want to make sure he’s ok.” Again, without skipping a beat or looking up from his phone, the guys said something to the effect of “Up to you to go see him.”

Okay, plan B. I did a quick assessment of the first floor (not hard to do since it was so small), and then walked up the small stairwell to the 2nd floor. To the left of the stairwell exit on the second floor were a couple rooms, and a couple rooms to the right of the exit. Joshua’s room was to the right of the stairwell exit. It is a tiny hotel. I paused and listened. It was quiet.

I knocked on the door and retreated into the stairwell to get some distance and cover as well as an avenue of escape. No answer. I knocked again and said, “Joshua, you in there? Are you okay?” I could hear some movement.

I knocked a third time and asked if he was okay again. I could hear more movement. A Thai woman opened the door. From what I recall, she was wearing a brown casual dress. She looked somewhat disheveled and older. Her demeanor was calm, and nonchalant. Nothing that alerted me. I asked her if Joshua was there. She looked over her shoulder and called over to Joshua and told him someone was here for him. I could hear movement, and a guy walked to the doorway. He was wearing white shorts or boxers and had no shirt on. The first thing I noticed was he had tattoos on his arms. The reason the arms got my attention is I immediately directed my attention to his hands when he came to the doorway. If anything will get you, it’s the hands. He also seemed disheveled and half awake. I asked him if he was Joshua and if he was okay. He said, “Yeah….for now. Who are you?” I told him he posted a help message on Sherdog and had people worried. I asked him, “For now? What do you mean? Are you okay?” He responded, “Yeah…yeah, I’m okay.” I said, “Are you sure? You need anything?” He responded, “No, I’m good. I’m going to shower and get going,” He was somewhat mumbling and seemed half awake. I told him take care and then left.

There were no apparent signs he was being held against his will. He didn’t seem afraid or in need of anything urgent. There were no signs of anything suspicious at the hotel. He didn’t seem to need medical attention. He answered all my questions coherently enough for me to be satisfied he was okay. And so I left. My plan was if he seemed disoriented I was going to call for EMS, and if anything seemed remotely dangerous I was going to call LE.

This is just my opinion…. I’ve seen people in the past use drugs, and the drugs trigger some type of paranoia. The paranoia can last long after the drugs wear off. I don’t know if the drugs can act as a catalyst to trigger mental illness like paranoia or schizophrenia, but it seems that way. The cases I’ve seen all have the same elements… people are doing things to set you up, people are after you to harm you or kill you, people are watching you….

I hope Joshua gets some help. From what I’ve read from other posters, he seems like a decent dude who just got involved with bad people and bad substances. It was good to see many Sherbros contacting whoever they could to help someone in potential danger. Stay safe Sherbros. Crazy world we live in. Thank goodness there are people willing to duke it out in a cage to give us temporary reprieve from the craziness of life.
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Don't let anyone tell you any different
 
This is my opinion on TS (Joshua Harley), why I decided to contact him, and what happened. At approximately 3:45pm-ish (Bangkok time - Los Angeles time would be 12:45am) I was on the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit Line returning from the immigration satellite office in northwestern Bangkok As I normally do, I opened the Sherdog forum to catch up on mma news. As an aside, the only forum I go on (mma or otherwise) is Sherdog because 1) mma is the only sport I watch, and 2) you guys are not only entertaining as fk, but always provide good mma info.

The first thread that caught my eye was Joshua’s ***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY*** post. I read his post, and what immediately caught my attention was his location. As I was reading it, the skytrain happened to be approaching Nana Station (the area Joshua stated he was at). I thought to myself, what are the chances of that. There were only two pages so far on his post, so my thought was his posting was relatively current.

I got off at my stop (2 stops from Nana), and messaged my friend in Los Angeles (see photo). I told him no way I’m going to get involved with this sh#t even though I am close. I walked back to my hotel and read a few more pages to see what my fellow Sherbros were doing. Many of you were sending emails to the Canadian embassy and contacting whoever you could to help.

I settled in and I thought about the situation. My gut said the Thai mafia isn’t going to kill him…at least not today. I thought he may in fact have gotten involved with the wrong people, and be in some sort of trouble though. But based on prior experience, what I believed was Joshua was having some type of drug triggered paranoia and/or maybe a schizophrenic type episode (I’m not sure on the exact medical verbiage so my apologies in regards to mental illness).

I thought to myself, the guy definitely needs some type of help. I’ll swing by the hotel, and assess it from the outside. If it seems relatively safe, I’ll make sure he doesn’t need medical help. If anything gets remotely sketchy, I’ll back out and call the police. That was my basic plan.

Around 5pm-ish I headed out to Soi 4 (about a 30 minute walk from my location). When I got relatively close, I typed “White Orchid Inn) on Google Maps. A location near Soi 7 popped up (nothing on Soi 4). In the back of my mind the fact (or so I thought at the time) Joshua got his location wrong further solidify my opinion Joshua was having a paranoia/mental/episode. During this time, Metal Gear Solid (a Sherbro) was conversing with Joshua online and trying to help Joshua.

I got to where Google Maps was directing me, but there was no White Orchid Inn. There was a hotel there, but it was called Syama. The business to the right of Syama is a massage parlor. A ladyboy and a lady were sitting outside waiting for customers. They could see I looked perplexed, and asked me what I was looking for. I showed them the map with White Orchid Inn. The ladyboy looked at the map, and after trying to figure it out, he told me it’s probably on Soi 7.

I walked around Soi 7 and the surrounding area, but no luck. Soi 7 is an area full of bars, billiards, and prostitutes. I ended up back at Syama. The ladyboy and lady both asked me to show them the map again. After doing some searches in Thai, they concluded the White Orchid Inn had renamed to Syama.

I thanked them for their help, and reported to you guys that this whole thing was probably a load of sh#t. Just in case, I headed over to Soi 4 (the street Joshua gave as his location) to see if there was a White Orchid Inn that wasn’t popping up on Google Maps. Soi 4 is a few minutes from Soi 7. I did not see a White Orchid Inn.

As I was getting ready to leave, a Sherbro posted a link to a White Orchid Inn on Agoda (a hotel booking website) and asked me “What about here?” The location was about a minute from me, so I walked over…and there it was.

The location is down a small alley off of Soi 4. I looked down the alley, and it seemed quiet. There were two older ladies sitting by the White Orchid Inn chatting and a kitty cat chilling in front. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I stepped inside the small front lobby area. There was a guy with glasses and longer than average hair for a guy sitting at the front desk. He was looking at something on his phone and barely paid any attention to me walking in. I did not see anyone else. I asked him, “Is Joshua Harley here?” Without skipping a beat, he said “202.” Based on the way he said “202” I surmised this guy speaks English pretty well.

I thanked him and walked back out. At this point I let you guys know Joshua was where he said he was. I thought of a few options, and what I would do in case of each option.

I walked around the perimeter of the place again, this time with more attention to detail since Joshua’s story about his location had some credibility now. Again, nothing noteworthy that caught my eye.

I walked back in, and asked the front desk guy “Can you call up to Joshua and have him come down? I just want to make sure he’s ok.” Again, without skipping a beat or looking up from his phone, the guys said something to the effect of “Up to you to go see him.”

Okay, plan B. I did a quick assessment of the first floor (not hard to do since it was so small), and then walked up the small stairwell to the 2nd floor. To the left of the stairwell exit on the second floor were a couple rooms, and a couple rooms to the right of the exit. Joshua’s room was to the right of the stairwell exit. It is a tiny hotel. I paused and listened. It was quiet.

I knocked on the door and retreated into the stairwell to get some distance and cover as well as an avenue of escape. No answer. I knocked again and said, “Joshua, you in there? Are you okay?” I could hear some movement.

I knocked a third time and asked if he was okay again. I could hear more movement. A Thai woman opened the door. From what I recall, she was wearing a brown casual dress. She looked somewhat disheveled and older. Her demeanor was calm, and nonchalant. Nothing that alerted me. I asked her if Joshua was there. She looked over her shoulder and called over to Joshua and told him someone was here for him. I could hear movement, and a guy walked to the doorway. He was wearing white shorts or boxers and had no shirt on. The first thing I noticed was he had tattoos on his arms. The reason the arms got my attention is I immediately directed my attention to his hands when he came to the doorway. If anything will get you, it’s the hands. He also seemed disheveled and half awake. I asked him if he was Joshua and if he was okay. He said, “Yeah….for now. Who are you?” I told him he posted a help message on Sherdog and had people worried. I asked him, “For now? What do you mean? Are you okay?” He responded, “Yeah…yeah, I’m okay.” I said, “Are you sure? You need anything?” He responded, “No, I’m good. I’m going to shower and get going,” He was somewhat mumbling and seemed half awake. I told him take care and then left.

There were no apparent signs he was being held against his will. He didn’t seem afraid or in need of anything urgent. There were no signs of anything suspicious at the hotel. He didn’t seem to need medical attention. He answered all my questions coherently enough for me to be satisfied he was okay. And so I left. My plan was if he seemed disoriented I was going to call for EMS, and if anything seemed remotely dangerous I was going to call LE.

This is just my opinion…. I’ve seen people in the past use drugs, and the drugs trigger some type of paranoia. The paranoia can last long after the drugs wear off. I don’t know if the drugs can act as a catalyst to trigger mental illness like paranoia or schizophrenia, but it seems that way. The cases I’ve seen all have the same elements… people are doing things to set you up, people are after you to harm you or kill you, people are watching you….

I hope Joshua gets some help. From what I’ve read from other posters, he seems like a decent dude who just got involved with bad people and bad substances. It was good to see many Sherbros contacting whoever they could to help someone in potential danger. Stay safe Sherbros. Crazy world we live in. Thank goodness there are people willing to duke it out in a cage to give us temporary reprieve from the craziness of life.
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<TheWire1>
 
Just finished reading this whole saga as I went to sleep instead of following it last night.

@Wormwood definite legend, great work.

Also the idea of a guy being woken up to be told a bunch of Sherbros are worried about him is great.

Just the sherdog neighborhood patrol doing their civic duties.

We have agents throughout the developed world. Wherever innocents are in danger Sherdoggers will answer the call.

When I saw this I assumed the guy was losing it. Also remember seeing Wormwood's post that he passed by on the BTS and would check in an hour. Had no idea he would come through in such legendary fashion. Strolling in, knocking on his door, and telling him Sherdog is worried about him is amazing. The picture with the fork is hilarious.

I just can't stop fucking thinking about how much I would've wanted to see TS face when a Korean guy wakes him up in a shitty hostel in Thailand telling him he's from Sherdog

LMAO
Even better, GF mist have been utterly dumfounded... "Is my BF in the CIA or wtf?" haha!

@Wormwood should get a field promotion to Uber Mod for his exemplary work in dangerous conditions
The forum should bestow the title of Groundhog Expert on @Wormwood

Dude popped his head into that shithole, procraimed spring is on the way, then went about his biz hahahaa!!

**edit**
Honorable mention to @GearSolidMetal for DMing this fraud, came up with the receipts finally after getting a lot of grief/doubt
 
This is my opinion on TS (Joshua Harley), why I decided to contact him, and what happened. At approximately 3:45pm-ish (Bangkok time - Los Angeles time would be 12:45am) I was on the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit Line returning from the immigration satellite office in northwestern Bangkok As I normally do, I opened the Sherdog forum to catch up on mma news. As an aside, the only forum I go on (mma or otherwise) is Sherdog because 1) mma is the only sport I watch, and 2) you guys are not only entertaining as fk, but always provide good mma info.

The first thread that caught my eye was Joshua’s ***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY*** post. I read his post, and what immediately caught my attention was his location. As I was reading it, the skytrain happened to be approaching Nana Station (the area Joshua stated he was at). I thought to myself, what are the chances of that. There were only two pages so far on his post, so my thought was his posting was relatively current.

I got off at my stop (2 stops from Nana), and messaged my friend in Los Angeles (see photo). I told him no way I’m going to get involved with this sh#t even though I am close. I walked back to my hotel and read a few more pages to see what my fellow Sherbros were doing. Many of you were sending emails to the Canadian embassy and contacting whoever you could to help.

I settled in and I thought about the situation. My gut said the Thai mafia isn’t going to kill him…at least not today. I thought he may in fact have gotten involved with the wrong people, and be in some sort of trouble though. But based on prior experience, what I believed was Joshua was having some type of drug triggered paranoia and/or maybe a schizophrenic type episode (I’m not sure on the exact medical verbiage so my apologies in regards to mental illness).

I thought to myself, the guy definitely needs some type of help. I’ll swing by the hotel, and assess it from the outside. If it seems relatively safe, I’ll make sure he doesn’t need medical help. If anything gets remotely sketchy, I’ll back out and call the police. That was my basic plan.

Around 5pm-ish I headed out to Soi 4 (about a 30 minute walk from my location). When I got relatively close, I typed “White Orchid Inn) on Google Maps. A location near Soi 7 popped up (nothing on Soi 4). In the back of my mind the fact (or so I thought at the time) Joshua got his location wrong further solidify my opinion Joshua was having a paranoia/mental/episode. During this time, Metal Gear Solid (a Sherbro) was conversing with Joshua online and trying to help Joshua.

I got to where Google Maps was directing me, but there was no White Orchid Inn. There was a hotel there, but it was called Syama. The business to the right of Syama is a massage parlor. A ladyboy and a lady were sitting outside waiting for customers. They could see I looked perplexed, and asked me what I was looking for. I showed them the map with White Orchid Inn. The ladyboy looked at the map, and after trying to figure it out, he told me it’s probably on Soi 7.

I walked around Soi 7 and the surrounding area, but no luck. Soi 7 is an area full of bars, billiards, and prostitutes. I ended up back at Syama. The ladyboy and lady both asked me to show them the map again. After doing some searches in Thai, they concluded the White Orchid Inn had renamed to Syama.

I thanked them for their help, and reported to you guys that this whole thing was probably a load of sh#t. Just in case, I headed over to Soi 4 (the street Joshua gave as his location) to see if there was a White Orchid Inn that wasn’t popping up on Google Maps. Soi 4 is a few minutes from Soi 7. I did not see a White Orchid Inn.

As I was getting ready to leave, a Sherbro posted a link to a White Orchid Inn on Agoda (a hotel booking website) and asked me “What about here?” The location was about a minute from me, so I walked over…and there it was.

The location is down a small alley off of Soi 4. I looked down the alley, and it seemed quiet. There were two older ladies sitting by the White Orchid Inn chatting and a kitty cat chilling in front. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I stepped inside the small front lobby area. There was a guy with glasses and longer than average hair for a guy sitting at the front desk. He was looking at something on his phone and barely paid any attention to me walking in. I did not see anyone else. I asked him, “Is Joshua Harley here?” Without skipping a beat, he said “202.” Based on the way he said “202” I surmised this guy speaks English pretty well.

I thanked him and walked back out. At this point I let you guys know Joshua was where he said he was. I thought of a few options, and what I would do in case of each option.

I walked around the perimeter of the place again, this time with more attention to detail since Joshua’s story about his location had some credibility now. Again, nothing noteworthy that caught my eye.

I walked back in, and asked the front desk guy “Can you call up to Joshua and have him come down? I just want to make sure he’s ok.” Again, without skipping a beat or looking up from his phone, the guys said something to the effect of “Up to you to go see him.”

Okay, plan B. I did a quick assessment of the first floor (not hard to do since it was so small), and then walked up the small stairwell to the 2nd floor. To the left of the stairwell exit on the second floor were a couple rooms, and a couple rooms to the right of the exit. Joshua’s room was to the right of the stairwell exit. It is a tiny hotel. I paused and listened. It was quiet.

I knocked on the door and retreated into the stairwell to get some distance and cover as well as an avenue of escape. No answer. I knocked again and said, “Joshua, you in there? Are you okay?” I could hear some movement.

I knocked a third time and asked if he was okay again. I could hear more movement. A Thai woman opened the door. From what I recall, she was wearing a brown casual dress. She looked somewhat disheveled and older. Her demeanor was calm, and nonchalant. Nothing that alerted me. I asked her if Joshua was there. She looked over her shoulder and called over to Joshua and told him someone was here for him. I could hear movement, and a guy walked to the doorway. He was wearing white shorts or boxers and had no shirt on. The first thing I noticed was he had tattoos on his arms. The reason the arms got my attention is I immediately directed my attention to his hands when he came to the doorway. If anything will get you, it’s the hands. He also seemed disheveled and half awake. I asked him if he was Joshua and if he was okay. He said, “Yeah….for now. Who are you?” I told him he posted a help message on Sherdog and had people worried. I asked him, “For now? What do you mean? Are you okay?” He responded, “Yeah…yeah, I’m okay.” I said, “Are you sure? You need anything?” He responded, “No, I’m good. I’m going to shower and get going,” He was somewhat mumbling and seemed half awake. I told him take care and then left.

There were no apparent signs he was being held against his will. He didn’t seem afraid or in need of anything urgent. There were no signs of anything suspicious at the hotel. He didn’t seem to need medical attention. He answered all my questions coherently enough for me to be satisfied he was okay. And so I left. My plan was if he seemed disoriented I was going to call for EMS, and if anything seemed remotely dangerous I was going to call LE.

This is just my opinion…. I’ve seen people in the past use drugs, and the drugs trigger some type of paranoia. The paranoia can last long after the drugs wear off. I don’t know if the drugs can act as a catalyst to trigger mental illness like paranoia or schizophrenia, but it seems that way. The cases I’ve seen all have the same elements… people are doing things to set you up, people are after you to harm you or kill you, people are watching you….

I hope Joshua gets some help. From what I’ve read from other posters, he seems like a decent dude who just got involved with bad people and bad substances. It was good to see many Sherbros contacting whoever they could to help someone in potential danger. Stay safe Sherbros. Crazy world we live in. Thank goodness there are people willing to duke it out in a cage to give us temporary reprieve from the craziness of life.
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That was some Good Samaritan shit right there.
<GinJuice>
I'd buy you a round if I could.
 
This is my opinion on TS (Joshua Harley), why I decided to contact him, and what happened. At approximately 3:45pm-ish (Bangkok time - Los Angeles time would be 12:45am) I was on the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit Line returning from the immigration satellite office in northwestern Bangkok As I normally do, I opened the Sherdog forum to catch up on mma news. As an aside, the only forum I go on (mma or otherwise) is Sherdog because 1) mma is the only sport I watch, and 2) you guys are not only entertaining as fk, but always provide good mma info.

The first thread that caught my eye was Joshua’s ***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY*** post. I read his post, and what immediately caught my attention was his location. As I was reading it, the skytrain happened to be approaching Nana Station (the area Joshua stated he was at). I thought to myself, what are the chances of that. There were only two pages so far on his post, so my thought was his posting was relatively current.

I got off at my stop (2 stops from Nana), and messaged my friend in Los Angeles (see photo). I told him no way I’m going to get involved with this sh#t even though I am close. I walked back to my hotel and read a few more pages to see what my fellow Sherbros were doing. Many of you were sending emails to the Canadian embassy and contacting whoever you could to help.

I settled in and I thought about the situation. My gut said the Thai mafia isn’t going to kill him…at least not today. I thought he may in fact have gotten involved with the wrong people, and be in some sort of trouble though. But based on prior experience, what I believed was Joshua was having some type of drug triggered paranoia and/or maybe a schizophrenic type episode (I’m not sure on the exact medical verbiage so my apologies in regards to mental illness).

I thought to myself, the guy definitely needs some type of help. I’ll swing by the hotel, and assess it from the outside. If it seems relatively safe, I’ll make sure he doesn’t need medical help. If anything gets remotely sketchy, I’ll back out and call the police. That was my basic plan.

Around 5pm-ish I headed out to Soi 4 (about a 30 minute walk from my location). When I got relatively close, I typed “White Orchid Inn) on Google Maps. A location near Soi 7 popped up (nothing on Soi 4). In the back of my mind the fact (or so I thought at the time) Joshua got his location wrong further solidify my opinion Joshua was having a paranoia/mental/episode. During this time, Metal Gear Solid (a Sherbro) was conversing with Joshua online and trying to help Joshua.

I got to where Google Maps was directing me, but there was no White Orchid Inn. There was a hotel there, but it was called Syama. The business to the right of Syama is a massage parlor. A ladyboy and a lady were sitting outside waiting for customers. They could see I looked perplexed, and asked me what I was looking for. I showed them the map with White Orchid Inn. The ladyboy looked at the map, and after trying to figure it out, he told me it’s probably on Soi 7.

I walked around Soi 7 and the surrounding area, but no luck. Soi 7 is an area full of bars, billiards, and prostitutes. I ended up back at Syama. The ladyboy and lady both asked me to show them the map again. After doing some searches in Thai, they concluded the White Orchid Inn had renamed to Syama.

I thanked them for their help, and reported to you guys that this whole thing was probably a load of sh#t. Just in case, I headed over to Soi 4 (the street Joshua gave as his location) to see if there was a White Orchid Inn that wasn’t popping up on Google Maps. Soi 4 is a few minutes from Soi 7. I did not see a White Orchid Inn.

As I was getting ready to leave, a Sherbro posted a link to a White Orchid Inn on Agoda (a hotel booking website) and asked me “What about here?” The location was about a minute from me, so I walked over…and there it was.

The location is down a small alley off of Soi 4. I looked down the alley, and it seemed quiet. There were two older ladies sitting by the White Orchid Inn chatting and a kitty cat chilling in front. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I stepped inside the small front lobby area. There was a guy with glasses and longer than average hair for a guy sitting at the front desk. He was looking at something on his phone and barely paid any attention to me walking in. I did not see anyone else. I asked him, “Is Joshua Harley here?” Without skipping a beat, he said “202.” Based on the way he said “202” I surmised this guy speaks English pretty well.

I thanked him and walked back out. At this point I let you guys know Joshua was where he said he was. I thought of a few options, and what I would do in case of each option.

I walked around the perimeter of the place again, this time with more attention to detail since Joshua’s story about his location had some credibility now. Again, nothing noteworthy that caught my eye.

I walked back in, and asked the front desk guy “Can you call up to Joshua and have him come down? I just want to make sure he’s ok.” Again, without skipping a beat or looking up from his phone, the guys said something to the effect of “Up to you to go see him.”

Okay, plan B. I did a quick assessment of the first floor (not hard to do since it was so small), and then walked up the small stairwell to the 2nd floor. To the left of the stairwell exit on the second floor were a couple rooms, and a couple rooms to the right of the exit. Joshua’s room was to the right of the stairwell exit. It is a tiny hotel. I paused and listened. It was quiet.

I knocked on the door and retreated into the stairwell to get some distance and cover as well as an avenue of escape. No answer. I knocked again and said, “Joshua, you in there? Are you okay?” I could hear some movement.

I knocked a third time and asked if he was okay again. I could hear more movement. A Thai woman opened the door. From what I recall, she was wearing a brown casual dress. She looked somewhat disheveled and older. Her demeanor was calm, and nonchalant. Nothing that alerted me. I asked her if Joshua was there. She looked over her shoulder and called over to Joshua and told him someone was here for him. I could hear movement, and a guy walked to the doorway. He was wearing white shorts or boxers and had no shirt on. The first thing I noticed was he had tattoos on his arms. The reason the arms got my attention is I immediately directed my attention to his hands when he came to the doorway. If anything will get you, it’s the hands. He also seemed disheveled and half awake. I asked him if he was Joshua and if he was okay. He said, “Yeah….for now. Who are you?” I told him he posted a help message on Sherdog and had people worried. I asked him, “For now? What do you mean? Are you okay?” He responded, “Yeah…yeah, I’m okay.” I said, “Are you sure? You need anything?” He responded, “No, I’m good. I’m going to shower and get going,” He was somewhat mumbling and seemed half awake. I told him take care and then left.

There were no apparent signs he was being held against his will. He didn’t seem afraid or in need of anything urgent. There were no signs of anything suspicious at the hotel. He didn’t seem to need medical attention. He answered all my questions coherently enough for me to be satisfied he was okay. And so I left. My plan was if he seemed disoriented I was going to call for EMS, and if anything seemed remotely dangerous I was going to call LE.

This is just my opinion…. I’ve seen people in the past use drugs, and the drugs trigger some type of paranoia. The paranoia can last long after the drugs wear off. I don’t know if the drugs can act as a catalyst to trigger mental illness like paranoia or schizophrenia, but it seems that way. The cases I’ve seen all have the same elements… people are doing things to set you up, people are after you to harm you or kill you, people are watching you….

I hope Joshua gets some help. From what I’ve read from other posters, he seems like a decent dude who just got involved with bad people and bad substances. It was good to see many Sherbros contacting whoever they could to help someone in potential danger. Stay safe Sherbros. Crazy world we live in. Thank goodness there are people willing to duke it out in a cage to give us temporary reprieve from the craziness of life.
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LEGEND AND HERO
 
Just finished reading this whole saga as I went to sleep instead of following it last night.

@Wormwood definite legend, great work.










Even better, GF mist have been utterly dumfounded... "Is my BF in the CIA or wtf?" haha!


The forum should bestow the title of Groundhog Expert on @Wormwood

Dude popped his head into that shithole, procraimed spring is on the way, then went about his biz hahahaa!!

**edit**
Honorable mention to @GearSolidMetal for DMing this fraud, came up with the receipts finally after getting a lot of grief/doubt

A Groundhog Expert custom belt for @Wormwood as a reward would be the chef's kiss this story needs
 
This is my opinion on TS (Joshua Harley), why I decided to contact him, and what happened. At approximately 3:45pm-ish (Bangkok time - Los Angeles time would be 12:45am) I was on the BTS Skytrain Sukhumvit Line returning from the immigration satellite office in northwestern Bangkok As I normally do, I opened the Sherdog forum to catch up on mma news. As an aside, the only forum I go on (mma or otherwise) is Sherdog because 1) mma is the only sport I watch, and 2) you guys are not only entertaining as fk, but always provide good mma info.

The first thread that caught my eye was Joshua’s ***SOS HELP ME IMMEDIATELY*** post. I read his post, and what immediately caught my attention was his location. As I was reading it, the skytrain happened to be approaching Nana Station (the area Joshua stated he was at). I thought to myself, what are the chances of that. There were only two pages so far on his post, so my thought was his posting was relatively current.

I got off at my stop (2 stops from Nana), and messaged my friend in Los Angeles (see photo). I told him no way I’m going to get involved with this sh#t even though I am close. I walked back to my hotel and read a few more pages to see what my fellow Sherbros were doing. Many of you were sending emails to the Canadian embassy and contacting whoever you could to help.

I settled in and I thought about the situation. My gut said the Thai mafia isn’t going to kill him…at least not today. I thought he may in fact have gotten involved with the wrong people, and be in some sort of trouble though. But based on prior experience, what I believed was Joshua was having some type of drug triggered paranoia and/or maybe a schizophrenic type episode (I’m not sure on the exact medical verbiage so my apologies in regards to mental illness).

I thought to myself, the guy definitely needs some type of help. I’ll swing by the hotel, and assess it from the outside. If it seems relatively safe, I’ll make sure he doesn’t need medical help. If anything gets remotely sketchy, I’ll back out and call the police. That was my basic plan.

Around 5pm-ish I headed out to Soi 4 (about a 30 minute walk from my location). When I got relatively close, I typed “White Orchid Inn) on Google Maps. A location near Soi 7 popped up (nothing on Soi 4). In the back of my mind the fact (or so I thought at the time) Joshua got his location wrong further solidify my opinion Joshua was having a paranoia/mental/episode. During this time, Metal Gear Solid (a Sherbro) was conversing with Joshua online and trying to help Joshua.

I got to where Google Maps was directing me, but there was no White Orchid Inn. There was a hotel there, but it was called Syama. The business to the right of Syama is a massage parlor. A ladyboy and a lady were sitting outside waiting for customers. They could see I looked perplexed, and asked me what I was looking for. I showed them the map with White Orchid Inn. The ladyboy looked at the map, and after trying to figure it out, he told me it’s probably on Soi 7.

I walked around Soi 7 and the surrounding area, but no luck. Soi 7 is an area full of bars, billiards, and prostitutes. I ended up back at Syama. The ladyboy and lady both asked me to show them the map again. After doing some searches in Thai, they concluded the White Orchid Inn had renamed to Syama.

I thanked them for their help, and reported to you guys that this whole thing was probably a load of sh#t. Just in case, I headed over to Soi 4 (the street Joshua gave as his location) to see if there was a White Orchid Inn that wasn’t popping up on Google Maps. Soi 4 is a few minutes from Soi 7. I did not see a White Orchid Inn.

As I was getting ready to leave, a Sherbro posted a link to a White Orchid Inn on Agoda (a hotel booking website) and asked me “What about here?” The location was about a minute from me, so I walked over…and there it was.

The location is down a small alley off of Soi 4. I looked down the alley, and it seemed quiet. There were two older ladies sitting by the White Orchid Inn chatting and a kitty cat chilling in front. Nothing seemed out of the ordinary. I stepped inside the small front lobby area. There was a guy with glasses and longer than average hair for a guy sitting at the front desk. He was looking at something on his phone and barely paid any attention to me walking in. I did not see anyone else. I asked him, “Is Joshua Harley here?” Without skipping a beat, he said “202.” Based on the way he said “202” I surmised this guy speaks English pretty well.

I thanked him and walked back out. At this point I let you guys know Joshua was where he said he was. I thought of a few options, and what I would do in case of each option.

I walked around the perimeter of the place again, this time with more attention to detail since Joshua’s story about his location had some credibility now. Again, nothing noteworthy that caught my eye.

I walked back in, and asked the front desk guy “Can you call up to Joshua and have him come down? I just want to make sure he’s ok.” Again, without skipping a beat or looking up from his phone, the guys said something to the effect of “Up to you to go see him.”

Okay, plan B. I did a quick assessment of the first floor (not hard to do since it was so small), and then walked up the small stairwell to the 2nd floor. To the left of the stairwell exit on the second floor were a couple rooms, and a couple rooms to the right of the exit. Joshua’s room was to the right of the stairwell exit. It is a tiny hotel. I paused and listened. It was quiet.

I knocked on the door and retreated into the stairwell to get some distance and cover as well as an avenue of escape. No answer. I knocked again and said, “Joshua, you in there? Are you okay?” I could hear some movement.

I knocked a third time and asked if he was okay again. I could hear more movement. A Thai woman opened the door. From what I recall, she was wearing a brown casual dress. She looked somewhat disheveled and older. Her demeanor was calm, and nonchalant. Nothing that alerted me. I asked her if Joshua was there. She looked over her shoulder and called over to Joshua and told him someone was here for him. I could hear movement, and a guy walked to the doorway. He was wearing white shorts or boxers and had no shirt on. The first thing I noticed was he had tattoos on his arms. The reason the arms got my attention is I immediately directed my attention to his hands when he came to the doorway. If anything will get you, it’s the hands. He also seemed disheveled and half awake. I asked him if he was Joshua and if he was okay. He said, “Yeah….for now. Who are you?” I told him he posted a help message on Sherdog and had people worried. I asked him, “For now? What do you mean? Are you okay?” He responded, “Yeah…yeah, I’m okay.” I said, “Are you sure? You need anything?” He responded, “No, I’m good. I’m going to shower and get going,” He was somewhat mumbling and seemed half awake. I told him take care and then left.

There were no apparent signs he was being held against his will. He didn’t seem afraid or in need of anything urgent. There were no signs of anything suspicious at the hotel. He didn’t seem to need medical attention. He answered all my questions coherently enough for me to be satisfied he was okay. And so I left. My plan was if he seemed disoriented I was going to call for EMS, and if anything seemed remotely dangerous I was going to call LE.

This is just my opinion…. I’ve seen people in the past use drugs, and the drugs trigger some type of paranoia. The paranoia can last long after the drugs wear off. I don’t know if the drugs can act as a catalyst to trigger mental illness like paranoia or schizophrenia, but it seems that way. The cases I’ve seen all have the same elements… people are doing things to set you up, people are after you to harm you or kill you, people are watching you….

I hope Joshua gets some help. From what I’ve read from other posters, he seems like a decent dude who just got involved with bad people and bad substances. It was good to see many Sherbros contacting whoever they could to help someone in potential danger. Stay safe Sherbros. Crazy world we live in. Thank goodness there are people willing to duke it out in a cage to give us temporary reprieve from the craziness of life.
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Mods @TeTe @Slobodan Give this guy free platinum account.

He the real sherdog MVP.
 
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