Some of you might not want to hear this but Leon Edwards surpassed Robbie Lawler as a WW champ.

[achoo42]

Yes, I get it. Leon is one of the most boring WWs of all time; he may in fact be the most boring WW champ of all time. And Lawler is the most exciting WW champ ever and one of the most exciting fighters in the history of the sport. We were spoiled with Lawler. But don't let that color the facts:

1. Usman x2 is better than anyone Lawler ever beat. Colby is whatever and didn't deserve the title shot, but the significance of beating an ATG welterweight twice is not to be understated.
2. Leon's wins were more decisive. He finished Usman in a fight he was losing (like Lawler finished Rory in a fight he was losing) but his subsequent wins over Usman and Colby are decisive wins while the Condit and Hendricks fights are considered robberies by many fans.
3. Leon was never anything other than a top level talent. His 13 fight unbeaten streak proves this. Lawler on the other hand was batting .500 in Strikeforce and was considered an exciting but middling fighter.

If you have an argument for putting Robbie over Leon, I'd like to hear it.

 

[Luthien]

If you have an argument for putting Robbie over Leon, I'd like to hear it.

 

[SuperNerd]

Cool, I think Robbie beats him up.

 

[egk]

LOL Why should people need to give you a reason when you did it yourself?

Yes, I get it. Leon is one of the most boring WWs of all time; he may in fact be the most boring WW champ of all time. And Lawler is the most exciting WW champ ever and one of the most exciting fighters in the history of the sport.

 

[ArtardFiesta]

leon is more forgettable fughter

5 years from now people won't even remember leon was a champ. could be true with belal as well. people will go form usman to shavkat

 

[RiskiestCookie]

No

 

[Leinster Rugby]

You're right. I don't want to hear it.

 

[daniel san]

Not like either of them achieved much as champ though so who cares? Robbie will however go down in the history books for his exciting fight style, Edwards is already forgotten.

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Not in my book, buddy

 

[FreddieRoachsVoice]

Rankings are all silly and subjective. Fans will be talking about Lawler's fights a lotttt longer than they will the careers of Belal, Leon, Usman, and Woodley. Legacy is made up of much more than any on-paper record

 

[jikjik]

Delusion is strong in this one

WAR Ruthless Robbie Lawler!

 

[Carrotman23]

I feel as if I'm on both sides of the fence on this one.
Yeah people will remember Robbie longer, he has an amazing story with how he came to the UFC young then left and came back to become champ, and his fights are all action, some of the nastiest KO's you'll see in MMA.

But Leon has a more refined skillset, has a very "modern MMA" game that wins fights but isn't the most exciting.
Would he beat Lawler prime for prime? probably
Does he have a better title reign? yes
Will he go down as a Just Bleed Disciple? no, not even remotely.

And honestly in terms of the stuff that makes legends the latter is way more important.
Lawler always put it all on the line, while Leon quiets and lacks a killer instinct.

 

[The Siege]

leon is more forgettable than leon

 

[filthybliss]

Yes, I get it. Leon is one of the most boring WWs of all time; he may in fact be the most boring WW champ of all time. And Lawler is the most exciting WW champ ever and one of the most exciting fighters in the history of the sport. We were spoiled with Lawler. But don't let that color the facts:

1. Usman x2 is better than anyone Lawler ever beat. Colby is whatever and didn't deserve the title shot, but the significance of beating an ATG welterweight twice is not to be understated.
2. Leon's wins were more decisive. He finished Usman in a fight he was losing (like Lawler finished Rory in a fight he was losing) but his subsequent wins over Usman and Colby are decisive wins while the Condit and Hendricks fights are considered robberies by many fans.
3. Leon was never anything other than a top level talent. His 13 fight unbeaten streak proves this. Lawler on the other hand was batting .500 in Strikeforce and was considered an exciting but middling fighter.

If you have an argument for putting Robbie over Leon, I'd like to hear it.

Well, I think I would give Lawler the edge off volume and name recognition of opponents. I think Leon's win over Usmans outweighs all of Lawler's best. But I can't say I feel strongly about it either way.

Lawler's Notable Wins
-Rory
-Condit
-Hendricks
-Brown
-Trigg
-Kosheck


Leon's Notable Wins
-Usmanx2
-Luque
-LW Diaz
-Colby (being generous)

 

[HHJ]

.

How can he beat Lawler prime for prime when he got dominated by Belal?

 

[Mammothman]

Lawler will loved and talked for generations, his legendary fights set a high standard for quality title fights.

Leon Edwards in the other hand just had that nice hail mary against Usman, people will forget about Edwards in 3 years top, Lawler will be remembered forever.

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

The oriental Lawler known as shavkat will save us from Bernard

 

[sonhow]

I for one wanted to hear this.

Thank you ts

 

[Dorkman]

Robbies title reign will be remembered for far longer. Being one of the most action packed title reigns ever. Tooth and nail fight to earn the belt, two fight of the year winners for defenses, and even went out on his shield losing it.

 

[CasualBot]

No one will remember B-LOL or Leon.

Robbie will never be forgotten.



this is like a "justmark" thread.