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So when Ngannou said he had 'learned a lot' from the Stipe fight...

I can't remember the last time I watched a fight where I knew one guy couldve just really got aggressive a little bit and put his opponent away but instead did absolutely nothing and took a loss to someone for no reason.I mean, did he get hurt vs Stipe besides getting taken down?
#sylviaarlovski-3-moveover
 
SamSpade said:
Come on, we all saw the same fight. The announcers could barely keep themselves from calling it a fraud.

Two alternatives:
- #1 is that DL/FN colluded to win Vegas bets (odds to go to decision were massive, etc.)
- #2 is that either of DL/FN was injured and WME could not let another fight drop on this card, and gave them an incentive to play it soft for 3 rounds.

Please explain what I'm missing. And PS I'm not Eddie Bravo / Alex Jones mental on conspiracy theories. This is not one of those.
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You forgot to mention the lizard people were judging the fight
 
SamSpade said:
Come on, we all saw the same fight. The announcers could barely keep themselves from calling it a fraud.

Two alternatives:
- #1 is that DL/FN colluded to win Vegas bets (odds to go to decision were massive, etc.)
- #2 is that either of DL/FN was injured and WME could not let another fight drop on this card, and gave them an incentive to play it soft for 3 rounds.

Please explain what I'm missing. And PS I'm not Eddie Bravo / Alex Jones mental on conspiracy theories. This is not one of those.
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It is actually quite simple.

Lewis' back was quite clearly very injured. He mentioned it to his corner several times and they trudged him back out there.

NGannou tried to retool his game and this gameplan predicated on countering Lewis. Since Lewis didn't commit to much of anything he didn't have a plan B. He was scared of Derrick's power.
 
Francis was fighting a weakened Derrick Lewis too. The guy had been dealing with an ongoing back issue. He was wounded animal. Fucked that opportunity right up. Worse Heavyweight fight I've seen in a while.
 
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Its all heart

Ngannou doesn't have it

When the going gets tough..Ngannou folds like a cheap chair

This fight told me all I needed to know about the future of his mma career

Now Lewis doesn't get a pass either but he was less terrible than Ngannou was
 
I blame the UFC for treating Ngannou as if he were the second coming of christ instead of allowing his raw talents to appreciate some breathing room in a division that is more shallow than a rain puddle in your driveway.

fortunately for Ngannou he still has at least 10+ years until he reaches his prime in the UFC’s heavyweight division.
 
Ngannou seems really dumb and I dont mean just in the octagon. He sounds slow and laughs about stupid things. I dont think he will go up from here on out. Another prospect fail.
 
JDragon said:
...this is what he came up with? Really?

What do you guys think drove this guy?
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Ngannou looked broken. Which is strange, considering he lost by gassing and getting out wrestled vs Stipe. Not a KO or TKO.
 
Ruprecht said:
Ngannou looked broken. Which is strange, considering he lost by gassing and getting out wrestled vs Stipe. Not a KO or TKO.
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Sometimes those kind of losses are much worse. They take a physical/mental toll that changes them.
 
Andrusz said:
Sometimes those kind of losses are much worse. They take a physical/mental toll that changes them.
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I wonder whether it was the actual events of the fight though, or just that his self belief crashed and burned with the hype train.
 
He really does need to get himself into a quality camp ASAP.
 
Well as watching the fight I was rooting for Ngannou for some reason even tho Lewis is a real af guy, especially in the post interview. (Current HW's are cool af atm)
Anyways I sparred when I was a noob and Was TERRIFIED of getting punched in my big ass nose. I was terrified and cautious of even exchanging... I feel Ngannou was a little timid.. I felt it like I was him.. I Dont think cutting was smart for him.... He has more security in his bigger weight... Lewis?
I think he was a little intimidated also . He has a bad back and is pretty slow in general... I think he senced Ngannous timidness but he also admitted he knew Francis counter gameplan..
Ngannou fought a lot like Overeem. Same vibe i got from him..
 
Ruprecht said:
I wonder whether it was the actual events of the fight though, or just that his self belief crashed and burned with the hype train.
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"Gun-shy Ngannou" is now a thing.
 
StoneWT said:
Well, Cameroon isn't in the best shape as a country and isn't known for producing geniuses. Being from there may have genuinely stunted his intelligence.
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Racist, if not for white colonialism Cameroon would be the global leader in the hard sciences.
 
Somalian pirates had his family as hostages making a bet on fight ending in decision
 
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