So what years was BJ PENN suppose to be in his "prime motivated"?

[CombatScience]

In the MMA community for years "motivated BJ PENN" (whatever that is) was suppose to be unbeatable (eventhough he lost every other fight throughout his career). So my question is...what years was motivated BJ PENN reign?

 

[BigTruck]

Fanboy excuse as to why he loses so much. One of the most overrated fighters of all time. I know I'm going to catch hell for this but it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

 

[DrunkMonkMeth]

Motivated bj was bj in his first ufc stint..(beating hughes koing carl uno in seconss etc) when he came back to fight gsp and stuff he was in his prime but not training at the proper level.

 

[TheAmericanGazelle]

The best version of BJ in my opinion was when he was working with the Marinovich brothers.

I mentally anchored his prime from about Joe Daddy to Diego.

Then the game outran him and he couldn't rely on his natural talent and inconsistent work ethic.

 

[Frozen Sea]

 

[peterparker66]

When he was completely outclassing guys around UFC 80 - 107 and the Frankie took his soul

 

[Pakman]

In the MMA community for years "motivated BJ PENN" (whatever that is) was suppose to be unbeatable (eventhough he lost every other fight throughout his career). So my question is...what years was motivated BJ PENN reign?

2007-2010

Fanboy excuse as to why he loses so much. One of the most overrated fighters of all time. I know I'm going to catch hell for this but it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

You’re most likely just a noob. Calling a guy who was a natural lightweight, who stepped up and beat Hughes at the time that he did overrated is beyond laughable.

Also, his destructions of Pulver, Stevenson, Sherk, Florian, and Diego, during the years that each of these guys were having success against the rest of the division, were all pretty amazing.

Not to mention he has wins over Caol Uno, Din Thomas, Matt Serra, Gomi, Bang, as well as wins at MW over Rodrigo and Renzo Gracie, lol, overrated?

B.J. has earned his place as one of the best to have competed.

Most of the people who say the old school fighters are overrated or are can crushers etcetc, weren’t around to watch these guys at the time it happened. You have to understand what was going on in MMA at the time.

 

[The guest]

I’ll give you the Reader’s Digest condensed version...

He was motivated BJ until halfway through his TC for the super fight with GSP. Running around on the ocean floor with big rocks in his arms, and shit. To the death, Georges, blah, blah, blah.

Then he decided he needed a break. Lied to Dana, and blew off training.

His corner stopped the fight after round four.

And, that’s all she wrote in the sad ballad of motivated BJ.

 

[Medical Marijuana Man]

Penn was fighting GSP, HuGhes, Lyoto, Renzo, Gomi and even challenged Wanderlei when Wand was in his prime

That Penn was one of the scariest fighters on the planet

 

[Wise1]

Pre-Edgar.

 

[Sansnom]

Fanboy excuse as to why he loses so much. One of the most overrated fighters of all time. I know I'm going to catch hell for this but it's my opinion and I'm sticking to it.

You're so brave.

 

[RyuHayabusa]

Year he fough machida... .... And lost

 

[Reach4theSky]

After the Edgar 1 robbery, BJ was never the same..

That fight took his soul..

 

[chinarice]

I’ll give you the Reader’s Digest condensed version...

He was motivated BJ until halfway through his TC for the super fight with GSP. Running around on the ocean floor with big rocks in his arms, and shit. To the death, Georges, blah, blah, blah.

Then he decided he needed a break. Lied to Dana, and blew off training.

His corner stopped the fight after round four.

And, that’s all she wrote in the sad ballad of motivated BJ.

I'd say the most motivated he was in his entire career was for his GSP 2 fight and it didn't matter because GSP had got so much better by that time that it negated any improvements BJ made during that time.

 

[Otto!]

When he met a Sherdogger at the airport.

 

[#1StockTrader]

After the Edgar 1 robbery, BJ was never the same..

That fight took his soul..

I always thought BJ won the first fight but after watching it I felt Frankie won and deserved to win.

 

[Reach4theSky]

I always thought BJ won the first fight but after watching it I felt Frankie won and deserved to win.

It was a close fight, I can't deny it. But I'm from the school, to be the champ you got to beat the champ(-Kenny Florian). I don't think Edgar did enough to get the nod..

 

[Phi-]

"Motivated BJ", "Prime Fedor" and "Sea level Cain" are basically the same thing. It's so called experts trying to rationalize losses of their favourites by saying that wasn't really him in the octagon.

Even if the fighters say there was nothing wrong with them, these "experts" have such a massive egos that they can't cope with simply being wrong and instead need to invent theories about the fighters so they don't have to admit anything to themselves.

Usually that's no problem, but if a guy has many "expert-fans" that were wrong they bond together and start a circle jerk about how they realize something nobody else does and start developing an elitist attitude. If you beat them down with arguments and facts, they'll come back with circumstantial "proof" and ad-hominems.

Just imagine a dumb guy refusing to admit that he said something dumb.

 

[tenniswhiz]

2007-2010



You’re most likely just a noob. Calling a guy who was a natural lightweight, who stepped up and beat Hughes at the time that he did overrated is beyond laughable.

Also, his destructions of Pulver, Stevenson, Sherk, Florian, and Diego, during the years that each of these guys were having success against the rest of the division, were all pretty amazing.

Not to mention he has wins over Caol Uno, Din Thomas, Matt Serra, Gomi, Bang, as well as wins at MW over Rodrigo and Renzo Gracie, lol, overrated?

B.J. has earned his place as one of the best to have competed.

Most of the people who say the old school fighters are overrated or are can crushers etcetc, weren’t around to watch these guys at the time it happened. You have to understand what was going on in MMA at the time.

I’m an old school fan and I think that Ken Shamrock was tremendously overrated.

 

[cmw43]

I'd say the most motivated he was in his entire career was for his GSP 2 fight and it didn't matter because GSP had got so much better by that time that it negated any improvements BJ made during that time.

That's the fight where he was skipping training for days at a time to go hang out at the beach with his girlfriend and his brother or someone was on the phone to Dana telling him he was actually training, it was on the embedded type show that was on at the time.

This was motivated Penn.