So is it normal to get whipped by everyone at first?

[BoxingFan653]

I'm only about 14 sessions in...I'm seeing a lot of improvement but I'm still getting ragdolled by pretty much everyone. The gym I go to is very encouraging and by no means am I discouraged but man I suck right now. I'm in good shape physically I have a lot of strength but I gas out pretty fast and that kills me...I'm huffing and puffing way too much too early.

I know this is probably normal and I shouldn't be too alarmed but I'm just curious. I know most people say they got their first tap at 6 months and I've tapped out 2 people in 2 months (1 was like a 17 year old kid thats been doing this since hes 10 so not sure if that counts) but its kinda frustrating losing to jus tabout everyone especially because most of the times I just gas out.

 

[Allan san]

No. The average person that tries anything, especially jiu jitsu, for the first time is usually head and shoulders above everyone else in the room. Sound like this sport isn't for you.

 

[BoxingFan653]

No. The average person that tries anything, especially jiu jitsu, for the first time is usually head and shoulders above everyone else in the room. Sound like this sport isn't for you.

 

[andrewm2211]

Yeah took me about a year to get past that phase.

 

[lts5025]

If people who study a martial art for years aren't better than someone who just started, then why would you want to learn that art?

 

[magick]

If people who study a martial art for years aren't better than someone who just started, then why would you want to learn that art?

Exactly.

I don't get this sense that your inability to beat people who have been doing the sport longer than you means anything besides that you're inexperienced.

If I can actually go toe-to-toe against the dan-grade guy at my judo school who's been training since he was like 7 (we're both the same age and I've been practicing on and off for 4 years), then I wouldn't put too much stock in what I'm learning and practicing.

 

[metalbeat]

it is extremely normal to get destroyed by people who are more experienced than you, and that only proves the effectiveness of the martial art.

Don't bother comparing yourself to the progression of others online either, things can easily be fabricated. You will probably here about how someone tapped out a seasoned blue belt 6 months in but the day before they got caught by a newbie. everyone progresses at their on rate.

 

[These Two Hands]

If I can walk in the door, and hold my own on day one, I am in the wrong fucking place.

 

[BoxingFan653]

I think you guys kind of misunderstand what I'm trying to say or maybe I'm just ignorant to the fact but my gym is pretty packed with plenty of white belts...they're beating me up too. My bad on not making it clear on my original post. Most have a few months more experience than me and are easily dominating me (ie 9 months vs 2). I was just asking if that is normal?

 

[Old Man]

I think you guys kind of misunderstand what I'm trying to say or maybe I'm just ignorant to the fact but my gym is pretty packed with plenty of white belts...they're beating me up too. My bad on not making it clear on my original post. Most have a few months more experience than me and are easily dominating me (ie 9 months vs 2). I was just asking if that is normal?

So you are asking if it is normal that a guy that has more than 4 times as much experience in the sport will be better than you?

 

[magick]

I think you guys kind of misunderstand what I'm trying to say or maybe I'm just ignorant to the fact but my gym is pretty packed with plenty of white belts...they're beating me up too. My bad on not making it clear on my original post. Most have a few months more experience than me and are easily dominating me (ie 9 months vs 2). I was just asking if that is normal?

Why exactly are you expecting anything else?

 

[TehGwarch]

I think you guys kind of misunderstand what I'm trying to say or maybe I'm just ignorant to the fact but my gym is pretty packed with plenty of white belts...they're beating me up too. My bad on not making it clear on my original post. Most have a few months more experience than me and are easily dominating me (ie 9 months vs 2). I was just asking if that is normal?

Yes it's normal.

It's good you asked this question because often people get frustrated they can't beat people who started some time before them. They're improving, just not enough that they will beat that guy any time soon. Maybe they will never beat him but they are still improving.

If you want to see your improvement, roll with someone who just started.

I always thought I would be a fast learner since I'm usually that guy, it turned out not to be the case in BJJ.

It kind of evened out after a while. Fast learners slow down and slow learners catch up, some people just plain suck but they're still better than someone who never trained. Probably too early to tell in your case but consistent quality training is very important.

If you can train 3 times a week, train 3 times a week no matter what. I guarantee no matter what people say "I train 5 days a week brah" if you average it out, it's less.

 

[BoxingFan653]

Why exactly are you expecting anything else?

I wasn't tbh...just curious. Some guy claimed he was only training for a month and beat me easily. Others tell me I'm learning quickly.

Any advice on how to learn more? YouTube has so many videos its overwhelming. Right now, I can't seem to stop being swept from the guard.

 

[andrewm2211]

Just keep showing up. For most youtube videos don't help, it's unlikely you'll remember the technique correct in the heat of the moment. Also without a coach to correct the nuances in how you're executing you'll probably do it wrong..
And the first few months you're still getting introduced to the basics.

You said you are getting swept a lot. I would just think about how to stay solid and balanced in guard. And I would also really work on the basic escapes from bad positions(since you'll be in one after getting swept).

And just ride it out dude, getting beat is part of it.

Even if it wasn't normal, and you just aren't off too a quick start, what difference does it make? Would you quit because you aren't advancing as fast as the claims from an average sherdogger?

Only real advice I would give is do extra cardio, after class or at home.

 

[lechien]

I was expecting a thread about the gaunlet on new students. Lol

 

[freakroor]

i love ragdolling newbies. it takes a few months before they can do anything

but that was me too at one point

 

[T-Bone]

... but its kinda frustrating losing to jus tabout everyone especially because most of the times I just gas out.

Then don't gas out

You had a lot of good advice. I am no expert on rolling... I am only 3 months into bjj.

Blue and above always squash me. To be expected. I do okay with some white belts... but I have a my strategy that helps prevent gassing.

If my rolling partner is too good for me to effectively improve my position, I go into defense mode and defend. Let's me relax somewhat while they expend energy.

Take my advice with a grain of salt.

-T

 

[HtomSirveaux]

Any advice on how to learn more? YouTube has so many videos its overwhelming. Right now, I can't seem to stop being swept from the guard.

Don't spend too much time on YouTube. It's ok to watch stuff, we all do, but you can get way too many ideas in your head and then have a sort of paralysis by analysis in training. It's best to keep that to a minimum for a while and focus on implementing what your coach is teaching you. That's what you're paying him for, after all.

As for not getting swept, you really just have to keep rolling. You can't really teach or learn base intellectually, you just have to get swept hundreds and hundreds of times and your body starts to figure it out on its own.

 

[DrJitsu]

For what it's worth- I would not focus so much on "wins and losses" in training. I know that's hard. A little different mindset will go a long way towards your improvement, especially if you stick with this sport.

To use the example you have above, maybe you just focus on better base while in the guy's guard. Maybe you are happy if you can just keep base and posture. Maybe it takes higher ranks a few attempts to sweep you and that's a victory in your mind. Maybe that white belt can't sweep you at all and that's progress.

You are going to get beat up on. Persevere and progress.

 

[EndlessCritic]

I think you guys kind of misunderstand what I'm trying to say or maybe I'm just ignorant to the fact but my gym is pretty packed with plenty of white belts...they're beating me up too. My bad on not making it clear on my original post. Most have a few months more experience than me and are easily dominating me (ie 9 months vs 2). I was just asking if that is normal?

9 months vs 2 months is a massive gap in skill.

it's like someone who can tread water vs someone with no arms.