So I just rewatched Khabib vs McGregor...

[Dark Individual]

I loved how delusional his fans were thinking one left hook all it took and refused to acknowledge that his chin is iron!! With all his cheating he got destroyed

I especially enjoyed @PROlogic with months and months of his fight analysis and how Conor comes from the family of some ancient warriors and how it was classic Conor in all those media conferences and blue lips and shit. And then boom, Khabib proceeded to beat the absolute shit out of McGregor and didn't stop there and jumped out of the cage like a mad man at Conor's crew. It is as good as it gets for me in mma and sherdogging.

 

[Thaijitsu612]

It still bothers me how people acted like Khabib was a superior striker to Conor.

He obviously couldn't implement his striking nearly so well with the obvious threat of Khabib's take downs!

But according to conor everyone on the planet panic wrestles against him, therefore, nothing was different.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Outside of Tibau, it was the closest three rounds of Khabib's career. Tibau got Bib when he was a child too, so all things considered, it kind of proves how great McGregor is, especially since he was a featherweight (still lineal champ) and is much smaller than Bib. I think the equivalent would be Cruz/TJ/Cody going 2-1 vs Max and then getting finished. Size is no joke, especially when you are a grappler. It is funny people consider it a horrific failure but consider other similar fights to be entertaining or honorable efforts when guys go up and do decently for a bit then succumb. The bar for McGregor is such that anytime he loses, no matter if doing unprecedented things liker short replacement fights at two classes up from his last fight, or fighting Mayweather in boxing, anything other than a McGregor first round KO is seen as a gigantic failure.

 

[ImNotSurpisedDonks!]

Good analysis, that’s about how I saw it. McGregor did better than I thought he would. I can’t see a scenario where he ever beats Khabib, though.

This. The McGregor aura of invincibility ended long ago and we knew his limits. Holloway showed just how hard maintaining FW dominance at another class is. Even Henry was closed to being done and he was not even fighting a champ. Going up is no joke, and Khabib could never make FW like Poirier, walks at 195, and I expected it to be more one sided. McGregor still looked flat from a layoff or partying, but that may have been just because Khabib is so good. I still think Conor beats about every LW out there if switched on. The levels go Khabib>McG>Nate/Tony level>Cerrone/DP level>Al/Eddie/Gaethje level>fringe top ten etc.

Whenever Conor loses, people have no nuance, do not pay attention to details like match up, where he last fought, lay off time, etc, all things granted to other fighters. Then people think he sucks and he blitzes thru a guy like Eddie and people think "he is back to superman", but the reality is he is limited but still a great (border line insane) fighter. Aint no champion ever done what he's done, take on such risky replacements with so much to lose, go to other sports and risk sure failure to test himself and get a big pay day. Henry is actually showing that belief and I love it. Sooner or later tho, those BJ Penn balls of belief earn you an ass whooping......if Conor beat RDA, he likely would have kept going up until he lost. That insane belief (delusion) is why he got so good too, a truly double edged sword.

 

[frye666]

Pretty much what I watched. I was surprised with Conor’s ability to avoid getting gnp’ed until he starting gassing. That said I believe Khabib will be the better fighter if there is a rematch.

 

[DorianGray]

They were at least.

And posting this gif:

If they had a straight up kickbox or boxing match who do you see winning?

meh, it's not so different from the conor - paulie bullshit.

 

[Poirierfan]

I don't think that anybody had to tell Herb anything. He was clearly either consciously or subconsciously afraid of calling fouls on the biggest name in the sport.

You might be right, he does seem like he would be a pushover, especially considering it was Mcgregor like you said.

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

It still bothers me how people acted like Khabib was a superior striker to Conor.

He obviously couldn't implement his striking nearly so well with the obvious threat of Khabib's take downs!

They're just trolling. The argument is that if the threat of the takedown leads to you outstriking your opponent than you're a better striker because it's MMA and takedowns are a part of it. He's not a better striker but can outstrike these guys because they are too worried about the takedown. If Conor went in there without any fear of the TD he would dominant while on the feet at distance but it wouldn't remain standing for very long. Also Conor needs to start eating carbs, no wonder his cardio is so shit.

Edit: the weird thing is that I'd never seen anybody make this argument before this fight. I had never seen a single person claim a wrestler was a better striker because of the TD threat before, they only used it to explain why wrestlers manage to do well against strikers. I never saw anybody claiming Chad was a better striker than Aldo or Chael was a better striker than Silva. Same with the weight cutting thing, people don't rip into fighters who have actually missed weight before the way they did with Conor who had never missed weight.

 

[ScottAdams]

Still manages to defend 3 takedowns, keeps the fight standing and lands more strikes than Khabib (facts).

Why do people always say this? Khabib clearly didn't want to take him down because Conor was gassed and he wanted the KO. He was basically feinting takedowns to keep Conor guessing. It's the most obvious thing in the world.

 

[franklinstower]

Conor figured Khabib out in round three, but was too gassed to emulate the success he had. Come rematch time, a fresh Conor will STOP Khabib before it could even hit round four.

Or maybe Khabib wont choose to stand with him for the whole round. Conor did not figure out Khabib's ground game unless you mean figured out its unstoppable by Conor.

 

[BuddyGuy]

That makes khabib a better striker. Takedowns are part of the striking game in MMA just like they are in the king fu that Cung Le was a world champion of.

Sanshou.....may have spelled it wrong but if you look up his fights in it they are pretty entertaining

 

[Phisher]

You might be right, he does seem like he would be a pushover, especially considering it was Mcgregor like you said.

People underestimated his striking because it looks so bad, but he's so fast and durable that it really doesn't matter that he's technically flawed.

The big surprise was him dropping McGregor though. Even though Conor wasn't really hurt and was surprised by that shot more than anything, nobody ever expected that to happen.

 

[John makfresshi]

It still bothers me how people acted like Khabib was a superior striker to Conor.

He obviously couldn't implement his striking nearly so well with the obvious threat of Khabib's take downs!

That's called MMA striking my boy. And Khabib proved he is the better MMA striker in every minute of the fight

 

[mikesparrow]

His entire family got kidnapped by the russian mafio bro!

On top of all that? Wow! He's a tough guy...

 

[true_fan]

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I especially enjoyed @PROlogic with months and months of his fight analysis and how Conor comes from the family of some ancient warriors and how it was classic Conor in all those media conferences and blue lips and shit. And then boom, Khabib proceeded to beat the absolute shit out of McGregor and didn't stop there and jumped out of the cage like a mad man at Conor's crew. It is as good as it gets for me in mma and sherdogging.

 

[DatSamboKid]

Not gonna read your post but I guess you wanna say Conor was winning until he lost, yes?

You guessed wrong

 

[DatSamboKid]

Why do people always say this? Khabib clearly didn't want to take him down because Conor was gassed and he wanted the KO. He was basically feinting takedowns to keep Conor guessing. It's the most obvious thing in the world.

Well that would be assuming. Facts are they counted as take down defense.

 

[Vehap1]

They were at least.

And posting this gif:

If they had a straight up kickbox or boxing match who do you see winning?

Conor...
But a striking match would be more competitive than a wrestling match