So Are We In Agreement Khamzat's Win Was A Fluke?

[deadshot138]

If Whitaker already had fucked up teeth and elected to not get them fixed and they were already separating from the gum like that, is it safe to say Khamzats win is a fluke? I think it goes differently had Whitaker not had the preexisting mouth issue.

 

[don't ask]

Maybe, but Whitaker's teeth weren't the reason he was dominated so completely until the stoppage. That was shocking to me, as a Khamzat disliker. Maybe Bobby could have turned it around in the later rounds, IDK.

Wasn't there talk of an Usman / Khamzat rematch? I wouldn't mind seeing that now. I'm curious what Usman could do with a training camp.

 

[Subline]

It doesn't change that he got taken down with ease and controlled

 

[Only Here for Attachments]

Unless his teeth caused that half-assed sprawl, no.

 

[HolmeZy55]

I dunno about fluke, he was controlling Whittaker but obviously couldn't get him completely down and or do any real damage until the face crank. But yeah had the teeth/gum not given way I am certain Rob would've survived, how the rest of the fight plays out who knows, we may never know.

As Max would say, it is what it is.

 

[prime_lobov]

How did Whittaker’s “weak teeth” hold up the countless other times someone tried to choke him or punched him in the mouth? Just an excuse for a nasty injury, but not evidence of a fluke. Bobby knucks is approaching Big Nog or Bigg Rigg tier with this excuse.

 

[balkanbomber85]

I put this win in the same category as a I do with snapped shin bones from low kicks/low kick defense.

Khamzat controlled the ground for 3min but he really did no damage except one single elbow, thats all about it. If you know Khamzat and watched his fights you know that that was actually really little damage and sub attemps, which means that Rob did defend well and even stood up for a brief second. Those are all facts, even while dominting Khamzat did not look as good as he did against prior opponents in the same position.

Could he have kept on doing so in rd2 and beat Rob? Definitely, but he didnt! He applied a face crank, the same one he also did to Usman and others, and for the first time he pushed in somebodies teeth with that move becaue they had already been loose.

 

[loisestrad]

Perfect teeth are more important than anything in MMA.

Second only to bicep size.

 

[usernamee]

I dunno about fluke, he was controlling Whittaker but obviously couldn't get him completely down and or do any real damage until the face crank. But yeah had the teeth/gum not given way I am certain Rob would've survived, how the rest of the fight plays out who knows, we may never know.

As Max would say, it is what it is.

Not completely down? He had his back on two different occasions as well as mount. The two most dominant positions in grappling.

 

[moosaev]

If Whitaker already had fucked up teeth and elected to not get them fixed and they were already separating from the gum like that, is it safe to say Khamzats win is a fluke? I think it goes differently had Whitaker not had the preexisting mouth issue.

If if if if if if.......

Are you aware of how many fighters go into big fights with serious medical issues? No, we're not gonna put an asterisk on this. Nice try.

 

[El Fernas]

How did Whittaker’s “weak teeth” hold up the countless other times someone tried to choke him or punched him in the mouth? Just an excuse for a nasty injury, but not evidence of a fluke. Bobby knucks is approaching Big Nog or Bigg Rigg tier with this excuse.

I think he got some surgery work done, either way, an injury like that is nothing short of a fluke.

 

[usernamee]

I'm always gobbling on Chimmy's nuts but I wouldn't be completely honest if I didn't say that I'd rather have Whittaker's teeth hold up and see how it plays out. Does he get the choke anyways in rd1? If not can he repeat what he did in rd2? Etc..

 

[HolmeZy55]

Not completely down? He had his back on two different occasions as well as mount. The two most dominant positions in grappling.

Rob was fully mounted? Must not have been long as I don't recall it (was drinking so memory might not be the best)

As for having his back, yeah like I said he was being controlled, never said he wasn't in a bad position.

 

[jeff7b9]

Nope. He got a dominant position EASILY and squeezed to do damage

It did damage.

 

[OldBoy91]

Not a fluke. Rob still chose to take the fight.

If you watch his podcast MMArcade, it's been obvious for a while he's had fucked up teeth.

He missed a bunch of episodes getting dental surgery and when he came back he didn't have any teeth on the right side of his jaw on the bottom.

Still, he took the fight and sure, maybe he wouldn't have lost in that fashion if he had waited to get his shit fixed, but he was still getting thrown all over the place before that.

I would like to see a rematch down the line with a healthy Whittaker though.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Fluke? He would have still finished him with a guillotine perhaps.

 

[Young Calf Kick]

stfu

 

[Hazuki Ryo]

Dude, Khamzat toyed with him from the beginning. Don't give your back if you don't want to end up neck cranked

 

[Aerandria]

If you have a good squeeze you can put people out without even being under the chin. Bas Rutten even had a classic line about it:

"You tuck your chin? Fine, I'll choke you with your jaw bone."

I would expect Khamzat to be able to finish from that position but we'll never know.

 

[MuddyFugger]

Can you imagine teeth shattering Khammy vs Cuban missile Romero? This streamer would actually pay for that....