Slavery is divinely inspired, straight from God. Slavery has health benefits that prison does not.

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This isn't an anti-Christianity thread because even the craziest Christians I know would not advocate slavery. I just had to share this because I found this and am equally baffled and fascinated. I can't wrap my head around the fact that these people have decided to address the shortcomings of our legal system with a much worse system.

If anyone has experience with this branch of Christianity before, I'd be very interested in hearing how this crap sprung up, how popular it is and who it resonates with.

Slavery Instead of Jails in Mosaic Legal System!
Have you ever noticed that there were no prisons in the law of Moses? People were stoned, beaten, fined but NEVER sent to prison or confined in any way including shackles or stocks etc. This brand new study sheds a positive light on the role slavery had in rehabilitating criminals and providing welfare for the poor. Confinement was something completely foreign in the Jewish Legal system.



Introduction:

  1. God never instructed Jews in the Law of Moses to ever put anyone in prison. There were no jails in the original judicial system of the Hebrews.
    1. In place of prisons, God provided a better system: slavery.
    2. Confinement of any type including jail, stocks, shackles, hooks etc. was something completely foreign in the Jewish Legal system.

http://www.bible.ca/sin-no-jails-pr...f-moses-slavery-welfare-jewish-comparison.htm


And also some thoughts on capital punishment:

Capital Punishment commanded in the New Testament: Romans 13:1-7
Christians should support governments that practice Capital punishment. While some church leaders call Capital Punishment unbiblical, we ask them this question: "If you can't get the simple stuff right, like baptism by immersion, how can anyone trust you on the finer details?

http://www.bible.ca/s-capital-punishment-commanded-in-bible.htm
 
Also, because the topic is so maddening, I give you this:

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Slavery wasn't the result of a religion. It was never exclusive to Christians.
 
Its a middle eastern religion after all.
 
Slavery wasn't the result of a religion. It was never exclusive to Christians.

No one has said anything like that in this thread.

It's hard for me to look at your posts now without remembering the Christmas thread that discussed the wonders of humanity and you felt personally attacked.

I would hate to live in your head.
 
No one has said anything like that in this thread.

It's hard for me to look at your posts now without remembering the Christmas thread that discussed the wonders of humanity and you felt personally attacked.

I would hate to live in your head.
"Slavery is divinely inspired, straight from God...." :rolleyes:

I'm not religious, friend. I don't recall the Christmas thread, either. Who did I think was attacking me?
 
"Slavery is divinely inspired, straight from God...." :rolleyes:

I'm not religious, friend. I don't recall the Christmas thread, either. Who did I think was attacking me?

Ah, I see. I did not think you would interpret that as the literal start of slavery / slavery being exclusive to Christians since many things that are divinely inspired have never been claimed to have been created by Christianity or religion. Things like prayer, devotion, flowers, etc. But if you didn't leap to that conclusion, then you wouldn't have anything to whine about.

You're regularly taking stands on religious threads. You sure feel the need to defend it a lot for someone who's not religious.

As for the Christmas thread, it was not your finest moment. Basically a thread united on the wonders, good and bad, of humanity and you came in whining that you're sick of feeling attacked all the time.
 
Please list any VERSES from the bible promoting slavery
especially new testament

basically, this is just another one of Dred's threads where he has no fucking evidence and wants to post shit from some nutjob.

Now, believe it or not, slavery was a good thing back in the day. Say if you conquered a people if you did not take them as slaves you would flat out kill them all. So in that sense it was good.
Some slaves offered their freedom chose to stay slaves as a slave eats every day, a laborer eats every day he works.

but the OT had laws that you could only keep a jewish slave for 6 years before offering them a chance at freedom

PS- did America originally have jails???

PPS- the abolitionists responsible for ending slavery in US and england were christians . . . I wonder why????
 
basically, this is just another one of Dred's threads where he has no fucking evidence and wants to post shit from some nutjob.

I agree. TS is an ignorant, anti-religious troll who has no business wondering why crazy assholes are crazy assholes.
 
I agree. TS is an ignorant, anti-religious troll who has no business wondering why crazy assholes are crazy assholes.

No, just has no supporting evidence or logical argument
how about making some threads about liking turtles?
 
Ah, I see. I did not think you would interpret that as the literal start of slavery / slavery being exclusive to Christians since many things that are divinely inspired have never been claimed to have been created by Christianity or religion. Things like prayer, devotion, flowers, etc. But if you didn't leap to that conclusion, then you wouldn't have anything to whine about.

You're regularly taking stands on religious threads. You sure feel the need to defend it a lot for someone who's not religious.

As for the Christmas thread, it was not your finest moment. Basically a thread united on the wonders, good and bad, of humanity and you came in whining that you're sick of feeling attacked all the time.
I generally "take stands" in religious threads because the jerkoffery of the atheists on this site makes me want to puke. I'm just not a believer myself, though much of my family is devout. I just don't see the boogey men that the outspoken atheists on this site see when they talk about religion. When I see people attacking people based solely on their beliefs, I DO take that sort of personally because people I care about are believers and the assumptions that the "enlightened" always make are so inaccurate. I see a lot of bigotry from people who consider themselves special because they have no belief.

The problem with atheism and religion alike is that the most outspoken of those on either side are the worst representatives.
 
No, just has no supporting evidence or logical argument

The thread title is paraphrasing the links I posted. The first line I wrote on this thread should have cleared that up even for the dumbest people.

I found some crazy assholes and deliberately made a point of saying no Christian I know would agree with them. I explain that I wanted to know more about how far and wide their craziness has spread.

I'd love to know what problem you have with this. I have a feeling you didn't read anything and just had a knee-jerk reaction.

how about making some threads about liking turtles?

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/n...hredder-with-a-dumpster-and-a-toilet.3071919/http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/n...hredder-with-a-dumpster-and-a-toilet.3071919/
 
The thread title is paraphrasing the links I posted. The first line I wrote on this thread should have cleared that up even for the dumbest people.

I found some crazy assholes and deliberately made a point of saying no Christian I know would agree with them. I explain that I wanted to know more about how far and wide their craziness has spread.

I'd love to know what problem you have with this. I have a feeling you didn't read anything and just had a knee-jerk reaction.



http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/n...hredder-with-a-dumpster-and-a-toilet.3071919/http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/n...hredder-with-a-dumpster-and-a-toilet.3071919/
I am arguing with your title alone "
Slavery is divinely inspired, straight from God."
. The little excerpts you posted aren't really saying anything.

Slavery was a fact of life before Abraham was born. There are laws regarding slavery in the OT.
I wouldn't call that "divinely inspired"

Evidence of slavery predates written records. Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[10] Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war, child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves.

Now, debt slavery makes sense as going to jail doesn't really pay back the person you owe money to
the second about conquered people get enslaved instead of killed

but again, there is no proof slavery is divinely inspired. if you say that, then you need fucking proof.

divine inspiration - Divine inspiration is the concept of a supernatural force, typically a deity, causing a person or people to experience a creative desire. Divine inspiration has been a commonly reported aspect of many religions, for thousands of years. Divine inspiration is often closely tied to the concept of revelation, the belief in information being revealed or disclosed through communication with a deity or other supernatural entity or entities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_inspiration
 
Well Muslims can't keep Muslim slaves

So everyone convert
 
I am arguing with your title alone "
Slavery is divinely inspired, straight from God."
. The little excerpts you posted aren't really saying anything.

Slavery was a fact of life before Abraham was born. There are laws regarding slavery in the OT.
I wouldn't call that "divinely inspired"

Evidence of slavery predates written records. Slavery was known in civilizations as old as Sumer, as well as almost every other ancient civilization, including Ancient Egypt, Ancient China, the Akkadian Empire, Assyria, Ancient India, Ancient Greece, the Roman Empire, the Islamic Caliphate, and the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas.[10] Such institutions were a mixture of debt-slavery, punishment for crime, the enslavement of prisoners of war, child abandonment, and the birth of slave children to slaves.

Now, debt slavery makes sense as going to jail doesn't really pay back the person you owe money to
the second about conquered people get enslaved instead of killed

but again, there is no proof slavery is divinely inspired. if you say that, then you need fucking proof.

divine inspiration - Divine inspiration is the concept of a supernatural force, typically a deity, causing a person or people to experience a creative desire. Divine inspiration has been a commonly reported aspect of many religions, for thousands of years. Divine inspiration is often closely tied to the concept of revelation, the belief in information being revealed or disclosed through communication with a deity or other supernatural entity or entities.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_inspiration

The thread title is paraphrasing the links I posted. I do not know how to make it any more apparent to you that I do not agree with it and am bashing the idiots saying that in the websites I linked to. I do not know how that is not obvious from how I have criticized them.

Serious question, because you're wasting your time demanding proof from me: how do I have to phrase it for you to understand that I do not agree with what these people are saying and am actually criticizing them for saying it, just as you are criticizing me because you think I said it?

I do not believe slavery never existed before Christians. I am not criticizing Christianity for past relationships with slavery. I do not believe modern Christians support slavery.

What do you need to hear to get this through your head? Serious question.
 
The thread title is paraphrasing the links I posted. I do not know how to make it any more apparent to you that I do not agree with it and am bashing the idiots saying that in the websites I linked to. I do not know how that is not obvious from how I have criticized them.

Serious question, because you're wasting your time demanding proof from me: how do I have to phrase it for you to understand that I do not agree with what these people are saying and am actually criticizing them for saying it, just as you are criticizing me because you think I said it?

I do not believe slavery never existed before Christians. I am not criticizing Christianity for past relationships with slavery. I do not believe modern Christians support slavery.

What do you need to hear to get this through your head? Serious question.

could you quote some reputable article that you do not agree? i can't believe it coming from you.

lol, sorry, bro, I am already a couple beers into things today

:p
 
A true what the hell is going on around here exchange. As if you guys were speaking different languages. Lol.
 
Wow Skip is putting in some serious work to win that coveted "worst poster of the year" award.
 
Please list any VERSES from the bible promoting slavery
especially new testament

basically, this is just another one of Dred's threads where he has no fucking evidence and wants to post shit from some nutjob.

Now, believe it or not, slavery was a good thing back in the day. Say if you conquered a people if you did not take them as slaves you would flat out kill them all. So in that sense it was good.
Some slaves offered their freedom chose to stay slaves as a slave eats every day, a laborer eats every day he works.

but the OT had laws that you could only keep a jewish slave for 6 years before offering them a chance at freedom

PS- did America originally have jails???

PPS- the abolitionists responsible for ending slavery in US and england were christians . . . I wonder why????
Yikes, it didn't take long for someone to rationalize slavery.

I can't imagine ever getting to a place where I can agree that slavery is "a good thing" because it's better than being killed. Duh, but not better than being alive and free, yes?
 
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