Simple Weight Cutting Solution

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With the issue of fighter safely and weight cutting why not make a rule that says all fighters must be hydrated when they weigh in? I see no downside to this.
 
Superman Elbow said:
With the issue of fighter safely and weight cutting why not make a rule that says all fighters must be hydrated when they weigh in? I see no downside to this.
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The UFC probably sees a downside of losing current champions because some of them would have to move up an additional weight class and they'd also have to create a new one for Light Heavyweight.
 
acannxr said:
The UFC probably sees a downside of losing current champions because some of them would have to move up an additional weight class and they'd also have to create a new one for Light Heavyweight.
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Any change to the weight cutting system would most likely cause change to the weight class most fighters fight in. But if it effects everyone it would still be a fair fight and those champions would most likely still be champions.

I was a highschool wrestler and my junior year they introduced a system that made it so at the beginning of the year we were all weighted, had our fat % calibrated and then they told us what our "alpha weight" was. The alpha weight was a number that we were not allowed to wrestle below, you could weigh less if you wanted but couldnt wrestle in a weight class below that number. Also at the initial weigh in you had to be hydrated and have at least 7% bodyfat. It pushed me up from being able to make 171 to having to wrestle 189 which I thought would be the death of me but almost all the guys I wrestled that year were in the same situation I was and it evened out.
 
good idea super man elbow
 
Why not just get rid of weight divisions?

Ruined the sport.
 
How about if you miss weight, you move up

Problem solved
 
Superman Elbow said:
For obvious reasons. I don't think the answer to my question is that obvious.
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I could see it happen.

Honestly,

Which do you think does more damage?

Some manlet getting thrashed by an alpha HW Sherbro?

Or years and years of weight cutting and potentially fighting dehydrated leading to, well death? I think the answer is obvious.

In terms of fairness, there is no fairness - welcome to life, if you were born a 6'0 midget then tough shit.

I'd even get rid of belts, such an outdated boxing model... just host tournaments with cash prizes once a month. Special rewards for brutality and holding onto submissions etc.
 
Superman Elbow said:
Any change to the weight cutting system would most likely cause change to the weight class most fighters fight in. But if it effects everyone it would still be a fair fight and those champions would most likely still be champions.

I was a highschool wrestler and my junior year they introduced a system that made it so at the beginning of the year we were all weighted, had our fat % calibrated and then they told us what our "alpha weight" was. The alpha weight was a number that we were not allowed to wrestle below, you could weigh less if you wanted but couldnt wrestle in a weight class below that number. Also at the initial weigh in you had to be hydrated and have at least 7% bodyfat. It pushed me up from being able to make 171 to having to wrestle 189 which I thought would be the death of me but almost all the guys I wrestled that year were in the same situation I was and it evened out.
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Demetrious Johnson fights at 140 lbs, which is 5 lbs over the new 135 lb limit.
Dominick Cruz fights at 150 lbs, which is 5 lbs over the new 145 lb limit.
Holloway is probably 160-165 lbs, which is 5-10 lbs over the new 155 lb limit.
Woodley fights at 190 lbs, which is 5 lbs over the new 185 lb limit.
Cormier fights at 235 lbs, which would probably be 15 lbs over the new Light Heavyweight division's weight limit.

A lot of fighters and champions would be in different divisions. I'm not necessarily opposed to shaking everything up, but these reasons are probably why the UFC is passive on this particular issue.
 
Same day weigh-ins.

You wanna fight extremely dehydrated? Go for it.
<{JustBleed}>
 
Superman Elbow said:
With the issue of fighter safely and weight cutting why not make a rule that says all fighters must be hydrated when they weigh in? I see no downside to this.
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I actually think this is a great idea, assuming that there's an accurate and feasible way to test hydration (which I honestly have no idea one way or the other).
 
TheIrishPsycho said:
I could see it happen.

Honestly,

Which do you think does more damage?

Some manlet getting thrashed by an alpha HW Sherbro?

Or years and years of weight cutting and potentially fighting dehydrated leading to, well death? I think the answer is obvious.

In terms of fairness, there is no fairness - welcome to life, if you were born a 6'0 midget then tough shit.

I'd even get rid of belts, such an outdated boxing model... just host tournaments with cash prizes once a month. Special rewards for brutality and holding onto submissions etc.
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We don't have to choose between weight classes and hydration, we could have both.
 
Superman Elbow said:
With the issue of fighter safely and weight cutting why not make a rule that says all fighters must be hydrated when they weigh in? I see no downside to this.
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that's the goal. there's a urine gravity test which apparently can do this. source.

Superman Elbow said:
It pushed me up from being able to make 171 to having to wrestle 189 which I thought would be the death of me but almost all the guys I wrestled that year were in the same situation I was and it evened out.
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that's the goal as well. most people will still be fighting the same each others (that sentence came out weird). a small handful who don't do extreme cutting now will be able to stay in their same division. a very small handful.

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the difficulty isn't finding a reasonable, rational solution. the difficulty is political; getting 45 different State AC's to agree to it. if UFC owned their own regulatory body in-house the way OneFC does, my guess is this would already be done.
 
Superman Elbow said:
Any change to the weight cutting system would most likely cause change to the weight class most fighters fight in. But if it effects everyone it would still be a fair fight and those champions would most likely still be champions.

I was a highschool wrestler and my junior year they introduced a system that made it so at the beginning of the year we were all weighted, had our fat % calibrated and then they told us what our "alpha weight" was. The alpha weight was a number that we were not allowed to wrestle below, you could weigh less if you wanted but couldnt wrestle in a weight class below that number. Also at the initial weigh in you had to be hydrated and have at least 7% bodyfat. It pushed me up from being able to make 171 to having to wrestle 189 which I thought would be the death of me but almost all the guys I wrestled that year were in the same situation I was and it evened out.
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I had to do this too, but it was sort of a joke. Let's be honest, u think those numbers were available to the "commissions". Also I went from 180ish to 130ish (I specifically joined wrestling to lose weight) and I wrestled at that lower weight. It meant nothing
 
Superman Elbow said:
Urine samples at weigh in can be tested for hydration.
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Not instantly. I dont think so. It takes time to get results back

Plus, people would then fail that test. Then what? You are just switching the thing that fights have to go through to be cleared from weight, to hydration test
 
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