Similar resume to Hendo or Rampage from an active fighter that didn't fought in PRIDE?

[Hellowhosthat]

What about Frankie?

Aldo twice, BJ three times, Maynard three times, Bendo twice, Max, Mendes, Faber, Ortega, Sherk, Sandhagen, Yair, Oliveira.

Crazy motherfucker.

 

[mihailovich]

I don't think anyone has fought as many fighters who won championships with Pride, the UFC, Rings, Strikeforce, Bellator, Dream or other major organisations as Hendo did.

Gegard Mousasi? Cris Cyborg?

 

[superpunch]

How come we don't see a resume from a fighter today similar to Hendo or Rampage? It's the Golden Era of MMA, no? At least the new fans keep saying that. <45>

Both of them fought nothing but killers nonstop and the fighters today fight like 15 cans and only 3,4 good opponents in total and retire smh and people call them GOATS <45>

These days everyone wants to be undefeated and take the easiest matchups only

Back in the day, since there were multiple top orgs with guys not fighting each other, and thus not eliminating each other, there were twice as many "great fighters".

Guys that are ranked like #10 in the UFC that no one cares about would have been #2 or #3 in the UFC or PRIDE if the UFC was split into multiple organizations. So wins over the #10 guy would be considered "elite", and you'd have tons of "elite fighters" piling up resumes of "elite" wins.

This is exemplified at 205. If PRIDE never existed and Chuck, Wand, Hendo, Rampage, Machida, Shogun, Tito, Sakuraba, Belfort, Randy, and Overeem were all in the UFC at the same time for their entire careers.. You'd only remember Chuck, Tito, Randy, Shogun, and maybe Wand. The other guys would be considered 'gatekeepers', and the wins they piled up over rank 5-10 "elite fighters" in their organization (UFC or PRIDE) would just be wins over rank 10-20 "bums" in a singular UFC.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Actually, I think the rankings era has made it more likely to fight a laundry list of killers. If you look at some of the streaks of opponents some perennially ranked fighters are on at the moment.

Bobby Knuckes last 7 fights are Cannonier, Till, Adesanya, Romero, Romero, Jacare and Brunson.


Volkan's last 7 are Prochazka, Rakic, Latifi, Reyes, Smith, DC and Manuwa

Marlon Moraes just got done with Font, Sandhagen, Aldo, Cejudo, Assunacao, Rivera, Aljo, Dodson and Assuncao

 

[Morning Star]

Eddie Alvarez has fought a who's who.

• Poirier x 2
• Gaethje
• Conor
• RDA
• Pettis
• Melendez
• Cerrone
• Chandler x 2
• Curran
• Aoki x 2
• Kawajiri
• Hansen

 

[Rear Naked Toke]

How come we don't see a resume from a fighter today similar to Hendo or Rampage? It's the Golden Era of MMA, no? At least the new fans keep saying that. <45>

Both of them fought nothing but killers nonstop and the fighters today fight like 15 cans and only 3,4 good opponents in total and retire smh and people call them GOATS <45>

These days everyone wants to be undefeated and take the easiest matchups only

So this is a Khabib thread?

 

[Richard Fannin]

Donald Cerrone, just look at his last 40 fights lol, seriously he's fought the who's who of MMA in his weight divisions.

His resume is legit as hell, dude fought prime Njokuani and Jesse Brock within his first 6 pro fights lol.

Dude has over 50 fights and it's hard to find more than 2-3 cans in there, just a list of killers.

Masvidal, Charles Oliviera, Max Holloway, Poirier, Whittaker, Ferguson, Aldo, Black Beast, Glover Teixera, RDA, Thiago Santos, Jeremy Stephens and many more.

All of them has a shit ton of fights against best fighters ever.

RDA, Cowboy, Pettis, Woodley, Holloway, Aldo.

Maia

When it comes to not having fought in PRIDE, the simpler reason for the guys is that they all started fighting, or at least fighting outside of their regional small ORG in 2007/2008, when PRIDE was closing/closed.

Look into it, I was surprised at how many of these guys got into WEC/UFC/DREAM/Strikeforce right when PRIDE was closing.

I hesitate to put Eddie Alvarez in that category, because he fought 4 times for Bodog, starting in 2006 and then joined DREAM in 2008 (fought 4 times there that year, that's crazy)
Bodog is above regional level, but he fought a couple tough guys too, like Nick "The goat" Thompson who TKO'd him there
or Aaron Riley.

For our younger readers, Nick "The goat" Thompson

Spoiler

(nicknamed after the fainting goat by his first training partners, because he used to get knocked out a lot in sparring at the The Minnesota Martial Arts Academy; at the time he trained with Sean Sherk, Pat Barry, Nik Lentz, Dane Menne, etc etc; yeah, yeah it's was early MMA, shit happened)

had a shtick: he did his weigh-ins & face-offs with only a jock-strap

Gegard Mousasi? Cris Cyborg?

Mousasi fought like 3 times in PRIDE; against Akihiro Gono, Judoka Gold Medalist Makoto Takimoto, and Hector Lombard.

And Cris Cyborg couldn't, because, well, it was another time...

 

[blaseblah]

Back in the day, since there were multiple top orgs with guys not fighting each other, and thus not eliminating each other, there were twice as many "great fighters".

Guys that are ranked like #10 in the UFC that no one cares about would have been #2 or #3 in the UFC or PRIDE if the UFC was split into multiple organizations. So wins over the #10 guy would be considered "elite", and you'd have tons of "elite fighters" piling up resumes of "elite" wins.

This is exemplified at 205. If PRIDE never existed and Chuck, Wand, Hendo, Rampage, Machida, Shogun, Tito, Sakuraba, Belfort, Randy, and Overeem were all in the UFC at the same time for their entire careers.. You'd only remember Chuck, Tito, Randy, Shogun, and maybe Wand. The other guys would be considered 'gatekeepers', and the wins they piled up over rank 5-10 "elite fighters" in their organization (UFC or PRIDE) would just be wins over rank 10-20 "bums" in a singular UFC.

Chuck lost to Rampage twice, it's more likely the UFC fighters would be the gatekeepers as Pride had a more stacked division.

 

[dog y]

Chuck lost to Rampage twice, it's more likely the UFC fighters would be the gatekeepers as Pride had a more stacked division.

Yeah, but he beat Mezger in another war. Gotta rewatch that, I remember choc al being very hurt at a point.
Actually I have to rewatch some old PRIDE. As it, ofc... Never die

 

[AmericanMMA]

Hendo's resume is just on another level. He fought the best of 3 different weight classes. The only missing GOAT he could have fought was Jones and that fight was scheduled for UFC 151, but Hendo got hurt.

 

[GOATtalks]

Back in the day, since there were multiple top orgs with guys not fighting each other, and thus not eliminating each other, there were twice as many "great fighters".

Guys that are ranked like #10 in the UFC that no one cares about would have been #2 or #3 in the UFC or PRIDE if the UFC was split into multiple organizations. So wins over the #10 guy would be considered "elite", and you'd have tons of "elite fighters" piling up resumes of "elite" wins.

This is exemplified at 205. If PRIDE never existed and Chuck, Wand, Hendo, Rampage, Machida, Shogun, Tito, Sakuraba, Belfort, Randy, and Overeem were all in the UFC at the same time for their entire careers.. You'd only remember Chuck, Tito, Randy, Shogun, and maybe Wand. The other guys would be considered 'gatekeepers', and the wins they piled up over rank 5-10 "elite fighters" in their organization (UFC or PRIDE) would just be wins over rank 10-20 "bums" in a singular UFC.

That actually makes a lot of sense. Good take