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Side control escape combo

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What do you think on these ways to escape side control? Imo they look legit though they have to be done unexpectedly.
 
Looks pretty terrible. If you're in side control bottom you're already out of position. In order to do these sweeps you have to take yourself even more out of position. These require you to remove your frames which means you can't keep his weight off you and he can access your chest. It also gives him both of your arms allowing him to attack the farside armbars, kimuras, etc and with the near arm he can trap it under his knee or switch to kesa gatame or mount.

I'm not saying this would never work, but it's certainly just a trick move. I also imagine it would stop working all together when facing a good opponent. You'd be better off developing fundemental postures and movements in that position. In general I question the potency of any technique that starts from the bottom mount, side mount, KOB, or on the back and ends with you in one of those positions on top.

Also note the partner on top is using a pretty shitty side control top posture. His knees are on the floor meaning his weight isn't on his partner, he's not shifting to react to his partners movement, and he has an over under control but isn't using cross face pressure to turn his partners head away. He's also too diagonal considering he hasn't used a checkpoint to kill his partners hips.
 
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It works on Andre Galvao, so there's more to it than your opponent being bad.

 
It works on Andre Galvao, so there's more to it than your opponent being bad.



Sure, but just because a move has worked on someone good in the past doesn't mean it's not a trick move. Also MMA is a different animal and guys are thinking about more than being in good grappling position. It's easier to make mistakes on the ground in MMA because striking forces you to relieve pressure or adopt postures and positions that you never would in straight grappling.

For example Galvao wasn't turning Stewards head on the cross face (which would kill this sweep), his knees were on the ground, and he was also diagonal to Steward. Also Steward instead of pushing the head used a hip bump sweep motion over Galvao's shoulder.

Please note I now feel dirty. I am no where near the same stratosphere of skill as Galvao, and definitely don't have any justifiable standing to be criticizing him. Maybe he was using pressures and postures I'm unfamiliar with, but clearly they expose you to this type of sweep. Or maybe he was tired/frustrated/hurt (I never watched the fight) and wasn't thinking about his positioning which caused him to make a mistake and get caught.
 
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