Showtime Sports President To Dana White: We Can't Release Fake PPV Numbers!

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Basically Dana White was mad that Espinoza didnt lie and add the international buys to make Mayweather vs McGregor seem larger than Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Espinoza is Floyds guy so Dana getting mad is weird, Dana lies about UFC ppv numbers by adding international buys, Conor didnt do 1.3 million buy sin USA alone, UFC tallies all buys to make the product seem larger than it is in north America this is who he suckered WME to buy it.

Conor vs Nate diaz in north America probably did 450-500k buys, then he threw in the canada buys, uk, and other countries in there to get it to over a million

just like Dana White has a PR team to get his UFC fighters fake followers on twitter and Instagram, he uses the if you speak it to existence people will believe it. Conor has like over 75 percent fake followers on his twitter if you use a twitter audit tool.

Dana was called out by Golden boy president back in 2010 or so, on his fake inflated PPV numbers for Brock Lesnar, the president of Golden boy challenged DAna White saying you can release inflated numbers because you are a not a public company dont lie tot he people to make your product more popular than it is, he then said show your real numbers and we will show ours, Dana never answered.

Showtime Sports Prez To White: We Can't Release Fake Numbers!


Here is quote from 2009 by former Golden Boy promotions president issuing an audit challenge to Dana White he even knew back then that White inflated his ppv numbers and lied


Schaefer questioned the legitimacy of UFC pay-per-view results that were leaked. He said HBO is a publicly traded company that would face serious repercussions for releasing false numbers. The UFC, he noted, is a private company with no such concerns.

“I think the UFC and boxing should be able to co-exist and work together in this thing that we call (combat) sports,” Schaefer said.

“I don’t want to talk (expletive) about the UFC. But Dana White can’t do an interview without knocking boxing. If he thinks we’re idiots and don’t know anything about the pay-per-view business, I’ll make him a challenge.

“I am willing to hire one of the top three accounting firms, at my expense, and do an audit of his pay-per-view results. They are nowhere near what is put into the public. There is talk that UFC 100 did 1.6 million, but it barely broke a million. I am willing to pay to have the audits done to prove this.”

White said he would not allow anyone other than fighters with a contractual right to do so to audit his numbers.

“Do you think I’m (expletive) crazy?” he said.
 
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It'd be embarrassing for boxing if the highest PPV event ever for boxing was headlined by an MMA fighter. The weasel for sure is hiding the true "world-wide" numbers behind the "North America" numbers.

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Basically Dana White was mad that Espinoza didnt lie and add the international buys to make Mayweather vs McGregor seem larger than Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Espinoza is Floyds guy so Dana getting mad is weird, Dana lies about UFC ppv numbers by adding international buys, Conor didnt do 1.3 million buy sin USA alone, UFC tallies all buys to make the product seem larger than it is in north America this is who he suckered WME to buy it.

Conor vs Nate diaz in north America probably did 450-500k buys, then he threw in the canada buys, uk, and other countries in there to get it to over a million

just like Dana White has a PR team to get his UFC fighters fake followers on twitter and Instagram, he uses the if you speak it to existence people will believe it. Conor has like over 75 percent fake followers on his twitter if you use a twitter audit tool.

Dana was called out by Golden boy president back in 2010 or so, on his fake inflated PPV numbers for Brock Lesnar, the president of Golden boy challenged DAna White saying you can release inflated numbers because you are a not a public company dont lie tot he people to make your product more popular than it is, he then said show your real numbers and we will show ours, Dana never answered.

Showtime Sports Prez To White: We Can't Release Fake Numbers!

A few days ago, UFC President Dana White lashed out at Showtime - stating that he would never again take part in a working relationship with the network.

White's company came together with Showtime last year, to promote the anticipated pay-per-view fight between former five division world champion Floyd Mayweather and UFC superstar Conor McGregor - which took place last August at T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

According to a press release from Showtime in December, the pay-per-view generated generated 4.3 million buys in North America - officially making it the second largest pay-per-view event of all time behind Mayweather vs. Pacquiao, which set the North American pay-per-view mark at 4.6 million buys in 2015.

The UFC executive is claiming that Showtime, for whatever reason, is underplaying the buy figures of the Mayweather-McGregor card.

The theory - from the White point of view - is Showtime is straying away from a scenario where a UFC fighter stepped in the ring for his first boxing match and that match broke boxing's biggest pay-per-view buyrate record.

Showtime is owned by a publicly traded company, so that kind of allegation by White would mean there are federal crimes being committed - which is unlikely with the numerous regulators who audit the financial figures to ensure proper information for the stock owners.

He believes the fight certainly surpassed the Mayweather-Pacquiao buy figures - an event that saw the distribution handled by a rare partnership between Showtime and HBO.

"Think about this, and I don't give a sh*t about Showtime's f***ing, full of sh*t press release that they put out - it's the biggest fight ever, ever in combat sports history. The thing did over 6.7 million buys [worldwide] and if the service didn't drop, we would have gotten closer to 7 million. It was the biggest event ever. It was the biggest boxing event ever without a boxer, there was only one boxer in that fight," White told Kevin Iole of Yahoo Sports.

Showtime's press release was specifically geared towards the buy figures in North America.

"Which I still question," said White.

"The way that they handled that press release and what they did - I didn't trust them before and now I just despise those f***ing guys. The Showtime guys, I will never work with them again - ever."

Espinoza appeared on Sirius XM radio - and said his network is unable to release fake numbers, because the company has regulations and auditors who go over everything on behalf of the shareholders.

The head of Showtime Sports said the network can’t release inaccurate numbers just to placate the UFC.

“Dana has got a certain style and it’s very successful for him,” Espinoza said. “The one thing I’ll point out — I don’t want to get too much into a back and forth — but we’re a public company and there are regulations, there are legal requirements. We can’t put out press releases giving fake numbers. We have shareholders. We have millions of shareholders.

“When we put something on it, when we say, ‘Here’s a Showtime Sports press release from Mayweather-Pacquiao or Mayweather-Mayweather,’ that has gone through lawyers and everyone has looked at it. It’s factual.”

As reported numerous times on BoxingScene.com, White has discussed his plans to enter the boxing market in 2018.

While White has no intention of working with Showtime, Espinoza would welcome the idea of televising boxing events by White's company.

The UFC, when they took over ownership of Strikeforce, worked with Showtime for a brief period of time.

“I think it would be incredibly arrogant for me to put personal animosity ahead of something that fight fans want,” Espinoza said. “If fight fans say they want to see another [UFC vs. boxing matchup], who am I to say, ‘Nope, I don’t like the guy across the table, so you’re not gonna see it.’ That’s one of the things that’s been wrong with combat sports and boxing in particular in the past.

“I don’t have to be best friends with everybody I do business with. That’s not how business works. Can you come together as gentlemen, as smart people and get a deal done? That’s the real question.”

Accusing Showtime of providing fake numbers is pretty stupid.
No one will buy this bluff.

Unless White actually has some point, of course...
 
Stephen Espinoza just eviscerated Dana and Conor (and ufc), and you all know it
 
Tell the truth to stupid UFC fans?

Dana be like



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It woupd make complete sense to add international ppv buys. We aren't on planet america cunt
 
Why is this so controversial? Weasel was talking about North American numbers and Goof was talking total worldwide.
 
I’m not sure why adding international numbers is considered lying. Sure Dana isn’t known for always telling the truth but I don’t see the issue here.
 
Sky had the right to the fight in Europe. So showtime wouldn't have those numbers. I don't know about anywhere else...
So it makes sense to release only NA if that's what they're controlling
 
Dana/the Fertittas/Zuffa have been inflating their PPV numbers for decades (this is a well known fact)

according to Chael, Conor has NEVER cracked the 1 million buys barrier -- his PPVs usually do between 800-900K (which is still A LOT)

UFC 100 sold a little over 1 million buys but to this day Dana insists that number is 1.6+ million.
 
I’m not sure why adding international numbers is considered lying. Sure Dana isn’t known for always telling the truth but I don’t see the issue here.

It sounds like Dana wanted to put out NA + worldwide figures for MCg May and say it was bigger than May Pac but using only NA numbers for that fight
 
It woupd make complete sense to add international ppv buys. We aren't on planet america cunt
Do you think they are lying about the MayPac doing better than May/Conor in North America?

I would like to see the international numbers as well, but I'd assume boxing is more popular internationally than MMA is.
 
Do you think they are lying about the MayPac doing better than May/Conor in North America?

I would like to see the international numbers as well, but I'd assume boxing is more popular internationally than MMA is.
No idea. Wouldnt put it past dana lying and wouldnt put it past espinoza (weasel) to lie. Its really weird when you think about it, why lie?
 
Basically Dana White was mad that Espinoza didnt lie and add the international buys to make Mayweather vs McGregor seem larger than Pacquiao vs Mayweather, Espinoza is Floyds guy so Dana getting mad is weird, Dana lies about UFC ppv numbers by adding international buys, Conor didnt do 1.3 million buy sin USA alone, UFC tallies all buys to make the product seem larger than it is in north America this is who he suckered WME to buy it.

Conor vs Nate diaz in north America probably did 450-500k buys, then he threw in the canada buys, uk, and other countries in there to get it to over a million

just like Dana White has a PR team to get his UFC fighters fake followers on twitter and Instagram, he uses the if you speak it to existence people will believe it. Conor has like over 75 percent fake followers on his twitter if you use a twitter audit tool.

Dana was called out by Golden boy president back in 2010 or so, on his fake inflated PPV numbers for Brock Lesnar, the president of Golden boy challenged DAna White saying you can release inflated numbers because you are a not a public company dont lie tot he people to make your product more popular than it is, he then said show your real numbers and we will show ours, Dana never answered.

Showtime Sports Prez To White: We Can't Release Fake Numbers!
Canada is in north America.........................
 
Dana/the Fertittas/Zuffa have been inflating their PPV numbers for decades (this is a well known fact)

according to Chael, Conor has NEVER cracked the 1 million buys barrier -- his PPVs usually do between 800-900K (which is still A LOT)

UFC 100 sold a little over 1 million buys but to this day Dana insists that number is 1.6+ million.

Lmao, how the fuck would Chael be privy to that information? Chael is a bigger liar than Dana

I also like the assertion that Dana conned WME onto buying the UFC with inflated PPV buys. As if WME didn't have accountants and financial advisors carefully look at the books of the company they were purchasing for 4 billion dollars. Nope, they just took DNa's word for it lol
 
I’m not sure why adding international numbers is considered lying. Sure Dana isn’t known for always telling the truth but I don’t see the issue here.
its an issue becuase in Boxing they only count the USA ppv buys, Dana white also has a private owned company that isnt public, while HBO and showtime MUST release legit numbers because they are public

Its sad that Dana White does this, remember him telling Urijah that Conor vs Floyd did 6 million buys lol, later Showtime had to correct him saying no it was close to 4 million and we are still counting the numbers.

Showtime would get in trouble release inflated numbers.
 
It'd be embarrassing for boxing if the highest PPV event ever for boxing was headlined by an MMA fighter. The weasel for sure is hiding the true "world-wide" numbers behind the "North America" numbers.

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It wasn't headlined by Conor.

It was headlined by Mayweather kicking the crap out of Conor.
 
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