Should ringside doctors be able to stop fights whitout being asked to?

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Yesterday Mike Perry seemed clearly concussed in the last two rounds of the fight. His reaction time was completely shot, his motor skills semeed clearly impacted, the punches looked slow and weak.

There was no point in letting him get hurt anymore. Go rewatch the last two rounds and see that he isn't there at all. If both of them were hurt there would be an argument to let the fight go on but Jake was completely fine.


If the corners and referees don't protect the fighters why not let doctors do it?
I'm not even saying that doctors should be able to stop it when a guy is just getting mauled. I'm just saying that if a guy is clearly concussed like Mike was the fight should be stopped.

I'm happy that he seems to be doing o.k. considering how he was concussed and then got knocked out. Will a big name need to get permanent damage for action to be taken? Surely no one can be mad at a certified doctor stopping a fight when someone is clearly concussed?
 
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Yesterday Mike Perry seemed clearly concussed in the last two rounds of the fight. His reaction time was completely shot, his motor skills semeed clearly impacted, the punches looked slow and weak.

There was no point in letting him get hurt anymore. Go rewatch the last two rounds and see that he isn't there at all. If both of them were hurt there would be an argument to let the fight go on but Jake was completely fine.


If the corners and referees don't protect the fighters why not let doctors do it?
I'm not even saying that doctors should be able to stop it when a guy is just getting mauled. I'm just saying that if a guy is clearly concussed like Mike was the fight should be stopped.

I'm happy that he seems to be doing o.k. considering how he was concussed and then got knocked out. Will a big name need to get permanent damage for action to be taken? Surely no one can be mad at a certified doctor stopping a fight when someone is clearly concussed?
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That's a tough one. I don't think doctors should be able to stop the fight unprompted, since they don't have the training of judging a fight nor the understanding of the fighters. Really it speaks to the incompetency of the referee to not recognize the damage and call for the doctor early on, and the "if he died he dies" attitude of the corner
 
No, I don’t think that would help. Ultimately you need one person in charge of fight management and that needs to be the referee - otherwise it just muddies the waters.

The fundamental issue is that referees need to be better trained and more willing to use the doctors appropriately, and more willing to stop a fight when someone is clearly concussed. Given the pressures from the promotions and crowds on getting their money’s worth though, I can’t see that happening as much as it should.
 
Absolutely not. Fights would be getting stopped in disastrous ways all the time, it would be way too difficult to get enough detail on how bad an injury or cut is cageside. Doctors are also more squeamish on matters of concussion I'm sure so they'd end up stopping the fights when a fighter is hurt but still in it.

Only person that should be able to stop the fight is the ref and each corner .

Doctors are there to assess injury's and cuts , they are not trained to know when to stop a fight in the middle of the action.
 
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A fighters corner can always throw in the towel if they are that concerned. I’d rather see more of that than some doctor who doesn’t know squat.
 
Goat Poster said:
Yesterday Mike Perry seemed clearly concussed in the last two rounds of the fight. His reaction time was completely shot, his motor skills semeed clearly impacted, the punches looked slow and weak.

There was no point in letting him get hurt anymore. Go rewatch the last two rounds and see that he isn't there at all. If both of them were hurt there would be an argument to let the fight go on but Jake was completely fine.


If the corners and referees don't protect the fighters why not let doctors do it?
I'm not even saying that doctors should be able to stop it when a guy is just getting mauled. I'm just saying that if a guy is clearly concussed like Mike was the fight should be stopped.

I'm happy that he seems to be doing o.k. considering how he was concussed and then got knocked out. Will a big name need to get permanent damage for action to be taken? Surely no one can be mad at a certified doctor stopping a fight when someone is clearly concussed?
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the ref at multiple points had that i'm gonna step in look in his eyes. They did want to protect mike but also wanted to give him a chance. the thing is the fight should not have been sanctioned. Jake is bigger and a boxer. mike is a failed boxer, failed mma guy, success in bkfc using the jake paul formula. Not to take away from his wins there i think they are more impressive than what jake has done but it is what it is. That fight should not have been sanctioned. This is a sport not the jake paul show. That dude needs some heavy humble pie. He runs an anti bully charity thing while being the biggest bully in combat sports lol. its funny but also a bit frustrating to see how much money its all generating and how many suckers buy into it. . when i look at a lot of match ups in the ufc i can't make the same arguments against those matches i can for every single one of jakes fights. he follows a very specific formula blatantly. Idc if jake wants to keep boxing and good on him if he continues to succeed but it should be against other boxers. hes 10-1 now but not a typical 10-1 hes already had extremely big fights and massive media attention. Hes not a typical 10-1 and moving forward the show should be that he fights ranked boxing contenders and sets out to do what he keeps claiming he wants to do and drops the I'm knocking out mma fighters thing. its not an accomplishment. its embarassing on jake. how so few people see that is beyond me. There are hobbyist jiujitsu guys in the gym that can tap ufc champions and they do everyday- they aren't parading around on social media like they are the king. they get it. they only train in jiujitsu. that shit matters.
 
Should ringside doctors be able to stop fights whitout being asked to?

No way. Just cuz some doctor got good seats, he shouldn't be able to jump in an interrupt the action. Probably just had money on the wrong guy, and he's going to interfere? Nope.
 
Doctors can't just call time out and jump in the ring to shine a torch in their eyes though. That would be crazy.
 
kingghidrah said:
Should ringside doctors be able to stop fights whitout being asked to?

No way. Just cuz some doctor got good seats, he shouldn't be able to jump in an interrupt the action. Probably just had money on the wrong guy, and he's going to interfere? Nope.
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exactly. unless the ref or coach specifically requests a doctor at the end of the round, doctors should have no part in this.
 
So everyone just says no and gives no solution? Can anyone even deny Perry was badly concussed the last two rounds he fought and shouldn't been allowed to continue?

Are we just waiting for someone to clearly receive permanent damage to change anything?
 
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So everyone just says no and gives no solution?
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The referee is the sole arbiter of a bout. That's both in the unified rules of MMA and boxing. You would have to amend the very rules of the sport to allow doctors to be able to call off fights, and that's not happening. The corner has the ability to stop a fight to save their fighter, and the fighter can choose to not answer the bell or call it quits. Leave it to them. Involving more actors can give way to any number of issues.
 
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Yesterday Mike Perry seemed clearly concussed in the last two rounds of the fight. His reaction time was completely shot, his motor skills semeed clearly impacted, the punches looked slow and weak.

There was no point in letting him get hurt anymore. Go rewatch the last two rounds and see that he isn't there at all. If both of them were hurt there would be an argument to let the fight go on but Jake was completely fine.


If the corners and referees don't protect the fighters why not let doctors do it?
I'm not even saying that doctors should be able to stop it when a guy is just getting mauled. I'm just saying that if a guy is clearly concussed like Mike was the fight should be stopped.

I'm happy that he seems to be doing o.k. considering how he was concussed and then got knocked out. Will a big name need to get permanent damage for action to be taken? Surely no one can be mad at a certified doctor stopping a fight when someone is clearly concussed?
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I say yes, the only issue would be corruption, that's one person you'd need to have to get a fight stopped. That said fight sports seem a bit corrupt anyway so not a massive risk maybe.
 
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