Should Conor Be Stripped?

[The Natural Born Runner]

You're a little frustrated. You gave me no facts just conjecture. There aren't any rules. The UFC will do what makes the most money. I actually think McGregor is opening doors for superfights to not have a punitive consequence to the fighter willing to venture out of their weight class. I'll give you a fact, due to what Conor has done in and out of the octagon he was the first UFC fighter ever to have a guaranteed, disclosed $1,000,000 show pay that's a fact. So I guess Max Holloway on Fox paid off.

I like your type, you're the type of guy who tells me that a musical artist is great because of their sales.

It's got the point where we've made 10 points each and we're not even countering them at this stage.

Cannot be bothered anymore.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

He won the belt 3 months ago, and the two top contenders at that weight, who had declared they would be ready, turned down the fight. If he hasn't defended in six months then I see a case, but given the number of champs who have been out for longer this boils down to hate.

Fighters who do not defend due to injury are completely different to having a clear-cut contender who you're ignoring whilst fighting in other divisions. He is fit to fight, but cannot even make the weight in which he won the title in. Just do the honorable thing and vacate the damn belt! Fight at 155 already. The man is a natural 155er and hasn't got 1 fight in the UFC at that weight yet.

He's a fraud.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

This rematch is a farce, but it's plain to see that the UFC is not confident that Conor'll get past Edgar.

I'm not sure I buy the claim that it's because they don't think McGregor can beat Frankie, when they have a much more concrete reason to lack confidence that Conor can get past Nate.

 

[VIPERdude]

EDGAR deserves to fight the little leprechaun next he is on a 5 fight win streak and you say he needs to fight more??? He just beat mendes, before that Faber, before that Swanson and before that i forget but he dont need to prove himself anymore for a shot at Mystical Macdonalds

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

I like your type, you're the type of guy who tells me that a musical artist is great because of their sales.

It's got the point where we've made 10 points each and we're not even countering them at this stage.

Cannot be bothered anymore.

Did you miss his point that by not punishing McGregor for losing a fight in a higher weight class, the UFC may be opening up more opportunities for super fights? I'm not sure I agree, but it's hardly the mindless repetition of points you are characterizing it as.

 

[haraigoshi]

champion is not defending his tittle by option.
should be striped.

 

[HI SCOTT NEWMAN]

Edgar will strip it for him

THIS.

 

[haraigoshi]

I'm not sure I buy the claim that it's because they don't think McGregor can beat Frankie, when they have a much more concrete reason to lack confidence that Conor can get past Nate.

main difference lies in the fact that if he fights Edgar and loses he is not the champion anymore,Nate can beat the hell of conor again and they will still try to sell him as the FW champion.

 

[DetroitRob]

If he fights twice in a row outside the division then I think he should be stripped. Only caveat to that is if Edgar, Aldo or Holloway are HURT. If they are able to fight then they need to take the fight. If all three are legitimately injured and McGregor wants to fight outside the division again I would be fine with it.

If any of the three refuse to take the fight because they arent ready, not in fighting shape, etc then they should lose their contender status

 

[klimt]

This thread title was misleading.

Yeah but I get the feeling that a lot of his fans actually fantasize about seeing him stripped so it kind of fits.

 

[KhabibTheBeagle]

I'm not sure I buy the claim that it's because they don't think McGregor can beat Frankie, when they have a much more concrete reason to lack confidence that Conor can get past Nate.

Yeah, but with losses to Diaz, Conor keeps his title, and they can still use "He moved up 2 weight-classes" excuse to keep people on-board. If he loses his belt to a guy smaller than him, they have nothing.

 

[Arkade]

He's been the champion for a mere couple of months.

 

[Malditor]

He's been the champion for a mere couple of months.

It's not about how long since he's won, it's about taking fights outside of the weight class that he holds that belt in. I think most people are fine with him fighting in at another weight once before defending, but fighting multiple times in another weight class? I think it's fair for people to not really agree with that, especially when there is at least one legitimate contender waiting for the fight. I also don't believe you can try to use the "they had the chance to fight when RDA pulled out" because, well that wasn't for the title so what good does that fight do them? *please don't say but money!*

 

[CRuck1980]

Fighters who do not defend due to injury are completely different to having a clear-cut contender who you're ignoring whilst fighting in other divisions. He is fit to fight, but cannot even make the weight in which he won the title in. Just do the honorable thing and vacate the damn belt! Fight at 155 already. The man is a natural 155er and hasn't got 1 fight in the UFC at that weight yet.

He's a fraud.

Frankie wasn't even available to fight

 

[ejlarson249]

The answer to that is unequivocally NO. Jose Aldo twice held that belt up for over a year, pulling out of multiple planned bouts and no one was talking about stripping him. So why on earth, when the promotion is behind him and he is fighting/making the UFC money, would they strip him. We're not talking about a vote by Frankie Edgar, Max Holloway, Chad Mendes, Aldo and Ricardo Lamas. We're talking about what the UFC wants to do.

In fact the people who should be ashamed for holding up the division are those five guys. None of them have fights scheduled, none of them have fought since Conor won the belt, none of them are calling each other out and none of them are making the kind of noise that makes them the money fight. Should Frankie get the next shot immediately? Probably not, go out and beat Max Holloway or better Jose Aldo and then start whining, don't whine now. Call the other guys out and beat them. It's not the ultimate whining championship.

Yes. He should.

 

[Phronimos]

That has pretty much been the rule for a long time, minus a few exceptions. You also lose any ranking you had after a year.

Unfortunately no such rule is on the books. If it had been, Conor fighting Mendes would have been for the title, not the interim title.

They should nail that down.

 

[The Natural Born Runner]

Frankie wasn't even available to fight

What do you mean, I'm confused?

 

[CRuck1980]

What do you mean, I'm confused?

You are right when you say there is a clear cut contender at his weight class, but unless something has recently changed, Frankie is injured and can't fight mcgregor so the division isn't being held up.

I think patience needs to be exercised here. There's little to suggest Frankie won't get his shot

 

[HalifaxHooligan]

The answer to that is unequivocally NO. Jose Aldo twice held that belt up for over a year, pulling out of multiple planned bouts and no one was talking about stripping him. So why on earth, when the promotion is behind him and he is fighting/making the UFC money, would they strip him. We're not talking about a vote by Frankie Edgar, Max Holloway, Chad Mendes, Aldo and Ricardo Lamas. We're talking about what the UFC wants to do.

In fact the people who should be ashamed for holding up the division are those five guys. None of them have fights scheduled, none of them have fought since Conor won the belt, none of them are calling each other out and none of them are making the kind of noise that makes them the money fight. Should Frankie get the next shot immediately? Probably not, go out and beat Max Holloway or better Jose Aldo and then start whining, don't whine now. Call the other guys out and beat them. It's not the ultimate whining championship.

They should hold an interim title fight.

 

[That209]

No.

He beat Aldo less than 4 months ago and you're asking if he should be stripped? come on, man. I think he should defend his belt, too, and would prefer him to fight Frankie at UFC 200, but it's not his fault that the UFC has other plans for him. Conor will go back down to 145 to take Frankie's head clean off before he ever ends up getting stripped of the title.