Shogun would've defended his belt against a non-roided Jones and put a respectable title defense run

[PrideJitZoo]

After watching the fight again, it was VERY apparent that Jones was on some sort of juice at UFC 128. Jones manhandled Shogun every second of the fight like it was nothing. A huge red flag considering the caliber of fighter Shogun was.

At the time, Shogun had proven to be one of the greatest LHWs of all time haven beaten some of the best in the division. Had Shogun fought a CLEAN Jones, he would've defended his belt and go on a title defense run.

Don't get me wrong, young Jones was still impressive. However, Shogun was a more complete fighter with more tools to defeat Jones. Jones at the time was still learning to put a lot of his raw skills together. Skill versus skill there is no question prime Shogun would've won. However that night was decided with Jones' strength and ahleticism gained through juicing.

Let's hypothesize had Shogun defended his belt against Jones, he would've fought and defended the same line up of fighters as Jones did in reality. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would've had Shogun putting up a good title defense run.

1) Jones - via TKO or SUB
2) Rampage - would've TKO'd him again
3) Machida - would've KO'd him again
4) Evans - 50/50 fight but I would've put money on Shogun
5) Belfort - another 50/50 fight
6) Sonnen - Shogun would've lost via decision IMO

Shogun could've defended the belt as many as 5 times until an matchup against Sonnen was inevitable.

It's just too bad a Shogun fought a roided Jones who derailed his health and career.

Oh what could've been.

 

[Drunk Bum]

Lol Shogun fans reaching

 

[Ballsack Mcgee]

You're still butt hurt about that fight huh?

 

[Garlic]

This thread brought a smile to my face. Shogun fans are a lot of fun, if you don't take reality too seriously.

 

[Mohawk Mauler]

Lol wtf are you on TS,I definitely don't want any of it what ever it is!


Shogun/Coleman 2 is my response to this bs thread.

Spoiler

And I love Shogun,felt bad for the beating he endured against Jones

 

[d3vil0ck]

Truth

Shogun has always been LHW GOAT, Jones being proven dirty just solidifies it

 

[Steve-French]

 

[kashmir]

 

[Redhawks100]

After watching the fight again, it was VERY apparent that Jones was on some sort of juice at UFC 128. Jones manhandled Shogun every second of the fight like it was nothing. A huge red flag considering the caliber of fighter Shogun was.

At the time, Shogun had proven to be one of the greatest LHWs of all time haven beaten some of the best in the division. Had Shogun fought a CLEAN Jones, he would've defended his belt and go on a title defense run.

Don't get me wrong, young Jones was still impressive. However, Shogun was a more complete fighter with more tools to defeat Jones. Jones at the time was still learning to put a lot of his raw skills together. Skill versus skill there is no question prime Shogun would've won. However that night was decided with Jones' strength and ahleticism gained through juicing.

Let's hypothesize had Shogun defended his belt against Jones, he would've fought and defended the same line up of fighters as Jones did in reality. I'm sure I'm not the only one here who would've had Shogun putting up a good title defense run.

1) Jones - via TKO or SUB
2) Rampage - would've TKO'd him again
3) Machida - would've KO'd him again
4) Evans - 50/50 fight but I would've put money on Shogun
5) Belfort - another 50/50 fight
6) Sonnen - Shogun would've lost via decision IMO

Shogun could of defended the belt as many as 5 times until an matchup against Sonnen was inevitable.

It's just too bad a Shogun fought a roided Jones who derailed his health and career.

Oh what could've been.

HAHAHA

Jones could have the estrogen levels of Kim Kardashian, tits and all, and still destroy Shogun with ease.

 

[Money509]

Sure thing bud

 

[Substance Abuse]

No.

Just no.

And I like Mauricio.

Evans would have slept that train.

 

[Mohawk Mauler]

Shogun would beat Jones back than but a fight with Rashad would've been 50/50???

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[usfbrah]

Lol yea Right. Keith jardine would of kod him

 

[RetiredSlave]

Jones was probably clean at that time. That one side by side of him with dadbod vs mythical savage made me go yeah fuckin right Jones.

 

[Fyreborn]

Guys, please. Do NOT take this delusional dude as a real rep of Shogun fans.

I'm not even sure this dude is for real. He might be trying to intentionally make Shogun fans look bad. I've seen that happen before.

Shogun in that fight had injured his knee for the third time (in the second Machida fight).

Even healthy prime Shogun loses to Jones IMO, roids or no. Three knee surgery Shogun gets wrecked almost every time.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

Truth

Shogun has always been LHW GOAT, Jones being proven dirty just solidifies it

Yeah, I don't think that idea is going to gain much traction. Seems to me like getting caught with steroids diminishes one's accomplishments somewhat in terms of general fan opinion, but it isn't absolute. If Jones and Shogun were neck and neck for being LHW GOAT, then Jones failing the test would put Shogun ahead. But Jones is head and shoulders above the rest of the LHW greats. Where it hurts Jones is in the GOAT arguments, where he was really gaining ground. But since all the main GOAT candidates (Fedor, Silva, GSP, and Jones) were kinda close and each had their own argument to be considered better than the others, Jones and Silva have lost a lot of ground because of their failed tests.

 

[Steve-French]

Truth

Shogun has always been LHW GOAT, Jones being proven dirty just solidifies it

Having a solid year and a half on top in an organization that would encourage the use of PED's does not make you the goat. That's like calling Mark Sanchez the goat NFL quarterback because he had one good season with the Jets. Shogun was a killer in Pride, but hasen't been able to put together a three fight win streak ever since he signed with the UFC 10 years ago.

 

[Rum]

After watching the fight again, it was VERY apparent that Jones was on some sort of juice at UFC 128. Jones manhandled Shogun every second of the fight like it was nothing. A huge red flag considering the caliber of fighter Shogun was.

Not the caliber of fighter UFC Shogun Off A Knee Reconstruction was. We already saw that version of Shogun when he re-matched a 567 year old Mark Coleman and fought like dogshit.

Anyone in the LHW Top 10 would have beaten Shogun that night.

 

[Rum]

... the main GOAT candidates (Fedor, Silva, GSP, and Jones) ...

Embarrassing that you don't have Aldo in there.

http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/science-jose-aldo-jon-jones.3284871/

 

[Deleted member 491149]

No.

Just no.

And I like Mauricio.

Evans would have slept that train.

as in laying on top of em the whole fight, then prolly ya.