Shinya Aoki UFC material yet?

RubberGuard5 said:
Different cultures have a different way of expressing emotions. Japanese fighters cry all the time, i guess it's normal to them.

Here's Aoki embarrassed for winning a shooto title. :P

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Either way, the fact he FELT embarrassed doesn't make those losses embarrassing, cause he fought legends of the sport, not some scrubs.
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reaching pretty hard there with the word legends not a single person he lost to has ever reigned at the top and the kick boxer he lost to during the mma part of thier match isn't even that great of a kick boxer.

Honestly dude if you can't tell that he got clowned in his loses since 2006 Idk what to tell you other then you are bias not worth talking to on this subject. Aoki is a great entertaining top 15 fighter, he was never the best at LW and nowadays couldn't hang with the top 5 at FW and certainly LW.

I'm not an Aoki hater at all to be honest but his fans the ones who use to call him #1 are downright delusional.
 
He has always been but it takes two to make a deal. In this case, Shinya doesn't want to fight in the UFC.
 
ThatBJJGuy said:
UFC level nowadays doesnt mean much with their turn around of events twice a week.

I wanna see Aoki fight someone good at 145. He's a legit guy in this division. He doesn't belong at 155.
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was agreeing 100% until the part in bold. While i think Aoki in the UFC at 145 would be bananas... he can still do fine at 155 as well.

RubberGuard5 said:
What makes you say that?
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I would like to know as well. 145lbs in the UFC would be his optimal weight class, but he is good enough to win more than he loses at 155.
 
He's been UFC material for eons. He's just satisfied chilling in Asia.
 
samoajoe said:
reaching pretty hard there with the word legends not a single person he lost to has ever reigned at the top
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Sakurai was the #1 welterweight for a while. Shaolin and Kawajiri were also both #1 in the world at one point, and Alvarez, Hansen and Uno were all ranked 2nd or 3rd at one point (Alvarez and Hansen were ranked 2nd and 3rd, respectively, when Aoki beat them). That doesn't count, though, cuz' they don't fit into the Aoki degradation that people have built up. Seems legit.
 
samoajoe said:
reaching pretty hard there with the word legends not a single person he lost to has ever reigned at the top and the kick boxer he lost to during the mma part of thier match isn't even that great of a kick boxer.

Honestly dude if you can't tell that he got clowned in his loses since 2006 Idk what to tell you other then you are bias not worth talking to on this subject. Aoki is a great entertaining top 15 fighter, he was never the best at LW and nowadays couldn't hang with the top 5 at FW and certainly LW.

I'm not an Aoki hater at all to be honest but his fans the ones who use to call him #1 are downright delusional.
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i think you're sorely mistaken.
 
eseseses681 said:
and Alvarez, Hansen and Uno were all ranked 2nd or 3rd at one point.
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Uno was introduced to the octagon as "the best light weight fighter in the world". Joe Arrogan didn't make this up. It was Zuffa's official statement.
 
Keita Nakamura's UFC record would give us a clear idea what would have happened to Aoki should he have made a move to UFC.

Nakamura is a better grappler and better striker than Aoki, not necessarily more exciting fighter.

Nakamura also fought in ADCC and placed himself. He was beat by the same guy who tapped out Aoki in the same submission, Marcelo Garcia. Nakamura lasted longer and gave Garcia harder time.
 
eseseses681 said:
Sakurai was the #1 welterweight for a while. Shaolin and Kawajiri were also both #1 in the world at one point, and Alvarez, Hansen and Uno were all ranked 2nd or 3rd at one point (Alvarez and Hansen were ranked 2nd and 3rd, respectively, when Aoki beat them). That doesn't count, though, cuz' they don't fit into the Aoki degradation that people have built up. Seems legit.
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Only in fantasy land Sakurai,Kawajiri or Shaolin ranked #1 at no point in time were they the best, Perhaps ranked high at the start of last decade when the divisions were all over the place with rankings without there being any clarity.

Same thing with Eddie and Hansen ranked high when Aoki beat them due to ranking in the class being a mess. Eddie still isn't top 3 so he certainly wasn't in 2008. Hansen was certainly not top 3 in 2006 and if he had that silly ranking in 08 it was because he put Aoki's glass chin out not because he was a top 3 talent at LW.
 
Has this thread been left here for ironic purposes?

He's 36-6 fighting better competition than anybody outside the UFC top 10. He is better than at least 50 UFC LWs. Is this serious?

Alvarez
Kawajiri
Hansen
Hansen
Uno
Riberio
Gsot
Kitoaka
Clementi
McKee
Aurelio
Hirota
Shalarus
McCullough
GZ
Beerbohm
 
samoajoe said:
reaching pretty hard there with the word legends not a single person he lost to has ever reigned at the top and the kick boxer he lost to during the mma part of thier match isn't even that great of a kick boxer.
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Mach, and Gil?
 
The Reed said:
Lose three god awful decisions then get cut?
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I'm not predicting the same exact results, but unless the matchmaker does Aoki a significant favor, he will meet the similar fate.

8 years ago, Aoki was really good at opening up opponents' defense by quick surprising attacks like flying armbar. Those were the weapons that were unique to him and something Nakamura didn't have. Now he seems to have forgotten about "purple belt spirit" and fight like a boring black belt Jiujitsu guy like Daniel Moraes
 
samoajoe said:
Only in fantasy land Sakurai,Kawajiri or Shaolin ranked #1 at no point in time were they the best, Perhaps ranked high at the start of last decade when the divisions were all over the place with rankings without there being any clarity.
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You can easily check this yourself. Try to list top 5 lw's for 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005.

You will not be able to make any list without Hansen, Kawajiri, Shaolin
 
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