Thing is though, is that its just a change in position. I agree that something needs to be dine, but seeing how many fight effecting nut shots and eye pokes that do legit damage get a pass, seems extreme.
Fighters get time to recover after nut shots and eye pokes
Give them the takedown then. Way better than a point.
They can be but not always. It's a difficult topic though
I dont have a problem with deducting a point. Just be consistent and do it every time someone prevents takedown with fence grab.
Its cheating. I know reflex wise,its hard to stop yourself from doing it,but look at Mendes vs Aldo. Mendes tried everything he could to take aldo down,and when he finally was about to get it,fuckin aldo held on the fence to block it. Now,if you decide to put them both on the ground,why should it be in a neutral position on thr ground? Maybe Mendes woulda ended up in side mount? so what should happen is a point and then neutral position is the only fair thing to do. I understand in some cases a point is too harsh,or even setting on the ground..but in situations like that? It kind of saved aldo's ass.
I dont think every single time cos some guys grab the fence before the TD is really attempted. It could just be a leg grab and dude holds balance. But Mendes v Aldo should have been a point. Mendes got the fuckin TD if it wasnt for that grab. Aldo was in the fuckin air.
Smells like my ex.A point for one grab with no warning? Conor vs Khabib with this ref would have had a 10-2 round.
Dude smells like cigs and booze.
I think if they even side mount, or even back mount, would be a better reprimand than a full point. I can see your point that since it's technically cheating, it's hard to justify. I don't want this to be the hill I die on <45> but..... going back to instinct, I think it's a bit much considering no damage is being inflicted. And I do think there is an instinct that comes with having a fence available to grab in the first place.
I didnt get to watch the fights tonight,and usually i shrug off the fence grabs (or rope grabs back in the day)I think if they even side mount, or even back mount, would be a better reprimand than a full point. I can see your point that since it's technically cheating, it's hard to justify. I don't want this to be the hill I die on <45> but..... going back to instinct, I think it's a bit much considering no damage is being inflicted. And I do think there is an instinct that comes with having a fence available to grab in the first place.
Ankalev was doing the same shit tonight. Awarding positions might not feel like the best solution, in the spirit of the fight and all, but surely it's still less extreme than a point.
Shit... I need to sober up then decide how much I'm willing to fight this topic.
I think that's my point though, that it would be better to award the position that was potentially lost with the grab and let it play out than to take a point. For eye pokes and nut shots, it makes more sense since the person is directly damaged. If the person who attempted the takedown is better on the ground and they are awarded the position, it should work out more organically.
A point for one grab with no warning? Conor vs Khabib with this ref would have had a 10-2 round.
Dude smells like cigs and booze.
A point for one grab with no warning? Conor vs Khabib with this ref would have had a 10-2 round.
Dude smells like cigs and booze.
