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SHERDOG MOVIE CLUB: Week 91 Discussion - One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest

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Here's a quick list of all movies watched by the SMC. Or if you prefer, here's a more detailed examination.

Thanks to @Scott Parker 27 it was nearly Ryan Reynolds' week to shine in the SMC, but no. . . Denied by Jack Nicholson!


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One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest is directed by MILOS FORMAN.

Along with future favorite cinematographer Miroslav Ondříček and longtime schoolfriend Ivan Passer, Forman filmed the silent documentary Semafor about Semafor theater. Forman's first important production was the documentary Audition whose subject was competing singers. He directed several Czech comedies in Czechoslovakia. However, during the Prague Spring and the ensuing 1968 invasion, he was in Paris negotiating the production of his first American film. His employer, a Czech studio, fired him, claiming that he had been out of the country illegally. He moved to New York, where he later became a professor of film at Columbia University and co-chair (with his former teacher František Daniel) of Columbia's film department. One of his protégés was future director James Mangold, whom Forman had advised about scriptwriting.

In 1977, he became a naturalized citizen of the United States.

In 1985 he headed the Cannes film festival and in 2000 did the same for the Venice festival. He presided over a ceremony of Caesar in 1988.

In 1997, he received the Crystal Globe award for outstanding artistic contribution to world cinema at the Karlovy Vary International Film Festival. Forman performed alongside actor Edward Norton in Norton's directorial debut, Keeping the Faith (2000), as the wise friend to Norton's conflicted priest.

In April 2007 the jazz opera Dobře placená procházka premiered at the Prague National Theatre, directed by Forman's son, Petr Forman.

Forman received an honorary degree in 2009 from Emerson College in Boston, USA.[10]

His most notable films include One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Amadeus, The People vs Larry Flynt and Man on the Moon.



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Jack Nicholson: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000197


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Premise: A criminal pleads insanity after getting into trouble again and once in the mental institution rebels against the oppressive nurse and rallies up the scared patients.

Budget: $3 million
Box Office: $109 million












Trivia
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* During filming, a crew member running cables left a second story window open at the Oregon State Mental Hospital and an actual patient climbed through the bars and fell to the ground, injuring himself. The next day The Statesman Journal in Salem, Oregon reported the incident with the headline on the front page "One flew OUT of the cuckoo's nest".

* Louise Fletcher was so upset with the fact that the other cast members could laugh and be happy, while she had to be so cold and heartless, that near the end of production, she removed her dress, and stood in only her panties, to prove to the cast members she was not "a cold-hearted monster".

* Second of only three movies, the other two being It Happened One Night (1934) and The Silence of the Lambs (1991), to win every major Academy Award (Best Picture, Actor, Actress, Director, and Screenplay, Adapted or Original).

* Author Ken Kesey was so bitter about the way the filmmakers were "butchering" his story, that he vowed never to watch the completed film, and even sued the movie's producers, because it wasn't shown from Chief Bromden's perspective (as the novel is). Years later, he claimed to be lying in bed flipping through television channels, when he settled onto a late-night movie that looked sort of interesting, only to realize after a few minutes that it was this film. He then changed channels.

* The script called for McMurphy to leap on a guard and kiss him when first arriving at the hospital. During filming, Director Milos Forman decided that the guard's reaction wasn't strong enough, and told Jack Nicholson to jump on the other guard instead. This surprised the actor playing the second guard greatly, and in some versions, he can be seen punching Nicholson.

* Director Milos Forman relied heavily on reaction shots to pull more characters into scenes. In some group therapy scenes, there were ten minutes of Jack Nicholson's reactions filmed, even if he had very little dialogue. The shot of Louise Fletcher looking icily at Nicholson after he returns from shock therapy, was actually her irritated reaction to a piece of direction from Forman.

* With the exception of the fishing segment (which was filmed last), the film was shot in sequence.

* Louise Fletcher was signed a week before filming began, after auditioning repeatedly for over six months. Milos Forman had told her each time that she just wasn't approaching the part correctly, but kept calling her back.

* The film was shown in Swedish cinemas between 1975 and 1987, which was, and still is, a record.

* When Louise Fletcher neared the end of her Best Actress Oscar acceptance speech, she finished with a unique touch (a first in American Sign Language): "For my mother and my father, I want to say thank you for teaching me to have a dream. You are seeing my dream come true. Thank you."

* The final scene was shot in one take, whereas the party scene took four nights.

* Kirk Douglas, who owned the rights, planned to star in it, but by the time they got around to making the film, he was too old.

* This story was based on author Ken Kesey's experiences while working at the Veterans Administration Hospital in Menlo Park, California.

* Emotionally strained by a demanding shooting schedule that kept him three thousand miles from his future wife, Rhea Perlman, Danny DeVito developed the coping mechanism of an imaginary friend, with whom he would have nightly chats. Concerned that his own sanity might be slipping away, DeVito sought the advice of Dr. Brooks, who assured him that there was no reason to worry, as long as DeVito could still identify the character as fictional.

* The cast and crew had to become accustomed to working with extras and supporting crew members who were patients at the Oregon State Mental Hospital; each member of the professional cast and crew inevitably worked closely with at least two or three mental patients.

* In later interviews, Louise Fletcher said that she found ways to make her character human, yet remain unsympathetic, ultimately deciding that Nurse Ratched actually did care about the patients, and felt she was doing what was best for them, but was ultimately misguided and drunk on her own power.

* Louise Fletcher was so disturbed by her own performance, that she couldn't watch the film for years.

* Milos Forman said he directed the movie in a naturalistic style, significantly contrasting with the "totally stupid socialist rallies and movies" which were common in his native Czechoslovakia. "I was fascinated just to see real faces on the screen", he said. "That's what cinema verite (like Titicut Follies (1967)) taught me."

* The casting of Chief proved hugely difficult, as there simply weren't any giant Native Americans. The producers were on the verge of giving up the search, when Will Sampsonwas discovered.

* When Jack Nicholson first arrived on-set, he was disturbed by how realistic the rest of the cast was. He ran outside and asked, "Do they ever break character?"

* The cast and crew were concerned about the behavior of Sydney Lassick. He exhibited increasingly unpredictable and emotionally erratic behavior during his time in character, a pattern that culminated in a tearful outburst during his observation of the final scene between McMurphy and the Chief. Lassick became so overwhelmed during the scene, that he had to be removed from set.

* Milos Forman would roll the cameras when the cast members didn't know it, so he could capture the "real moment".

* According to Michael Douglas, Milos Forman had his heart set on Burt Reynolds to play the part of McMurphy. Reynolds wanted to do it after meeting with Forman, but the studio wanted a more critically acclaimed actor for the role, and chose Jack Nicholson.



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Great fuckin' movie! Great performances.

What's hard for me about this film is the bleak ending after being treated to what's mostly a comedy taking place in a dramatic setting. Biggest complaint though is not being able to get a peek the the 15 year old poon that landed homie in the hoosegow. I mean, maybe who could blame him? :D
 
Great fuckin' movie! Great performances.

What's hard for me about this film is the bleak ending after being treated to what's mostly a comedy taking place in a dramatic setting. Biggest complaint though is not being able to get a peek the the 15 year old poon that landed homie in the hoosegow. I mean, maybe who could blame him? :D

She said she was 18.
 
Interesting facts before I dig into this one:

This film beat out Dog Day Afternoon, our previous week's pick, for Best Picture in 1975.
This is the first time in SMC history where two back to back picks had identical RT scores, or were made in the same year.
 
Interesting facts before I dig into this one:

This film beat out Dog Day Afternoon, our previous week's pick, for Best Picture in 1975.
This is the first time in SMC history where two back to back picks had identical RT scores, or were made in the same year.


Watching them back to back makes for a nice comparison. Both bring the laughs early and then shit gets serious at the end.
 
Read the book before the movie. It’s told from Big Chiefs perspective rather than McMurphy. Ken Kesey actually refused to see the film adaptation because of that. It really is an amazing book/film and easily in my top 10.

The It’s Always Sunny episode where Frank is in the psych ward referencing his role in the film is also awesome
 
Read the book before the movie. It’s told from Big Chiefs perspective rather than McMurphy. Ken Kesey actually refused to see the film adaptation because of that. It really is an amazing book/film and easily in my top 10.

The It’s Always Sunny episode where Frank is in the psych ward referencing his role in the film is also awesome

I remember being upset about the shift in perspective at first, but everything else was so great that I got over it.

Nicholson does a great job of bringing an energy that's rejuvinating, heroic, and disturbingly unstable. I can't remember if the film is an outright condemnation of his character's treatment or if it's more subtle than that, but I'm looking forward to the rewatch.
 
I remember being upset about the shift in perspective at first, but everything else was so great that I got over it.

Nicholson does a great job of bringing an energy that's rejuvinating, heroic, and disturbingly unstable. I can't remember if the film is an outright condemnation of his character's treatment or if it's more subtle than that, but I'm looking forward to the rewatch.

I’ve read that it is also supposed to be political commentary. Kesey and the rest of the merry pranksters were counterculture Anti-Gov folk. Nurse Ratchett is supposed to represent the government.

Nicholson definitely nailed the character. His energy is definitely apparent. The end of the film is heartbreaking. I need to rewatch it.
 
Read the book before the movie. It’s told from Big Chiefs perspective rather than McMurphy. Ken Kesey actually refused to see the film adaptation because of that. It really is an amazing book/film and easily in my top 10.

The It’s Always Sunny episode where Frank is in the psych ward referencing his role in the film is also awesome


That's funny because at the end of the film I told the wife (who hadn't seen it) that it was really Chief's story all along. Can see how the author might not like that, but the movie won best picture ffs. Don't be so stuck up.
 
That's funny because at the end of the film I told the wife (who hadn't seen it) that it was really Chief's story all along. Can see how the author might not like that, but the movie won best picture ffs. Don't be so stuck up.

I’m not being stuck up. The film is just as good as the book. I just think both forms of the story deserve equal attention. They don’t make movies like this one anymore.
 
Not you bro. The book author who refused to watch the film.

Authors are weird sometimes with interpretations of their work. It reminds me of how Stephen King hates Kubrick’s The Shining which is another amazing Nicholson film.
 
Authors are weird sometimes with interpretations of their work. It reminds me of how Stephen King hates Kubrick’s The Shining which is another amazing Nicholson film.


If they can't enjoy a great movie, regardless, then fuck 'em.


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Read the book before the movie. It’s told from Big Chiefs perspective rather than McMurphy. Ken Kesey actually refused to see the film adaptation because of that. It really is an amazing book/film and easily in my top 10.

The It’s Always Sunny episode where Frank is in the psych ward referencing his role in the film is also awesome

I saw the film for the first time when I was pretty young (like 10 or younger) so when I read the book, probably at age 20 or so, I had seen the film multiple times by then. I don't know if the appreciation of either medium is diminished regardless of seeing or reading it first.

If anything I'd suggest watching the movie before reading the book because the "twist" of it being in the Chief's perspective made the story that much more intriguing for me. But, both are masterpieces in their own right, so I don't know if the order matters.
 
Possibly the best film ever made.
 
Authors are weird sometimes with interpretations of their work. It reminds me of how Stephen King hates Kubrick’s The Shining which is another amazing Nicholson film.

Kubrick intentionally gave King the middle finger with the movie. I don't blame King for being displeased.
 
Kubrick intentionally gave King the middle finger with the movie. I don't blame King for being displeased.


Hard to believe it was spite that motivated him to create one of the genre's benchmarks. Maybe he just didn't give a fuck what the author thought about his cinematic vision?
 
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