Serra wouldn't enter ADCC finals?

Discussion in 'Grappling Technique' started by Tony Manifold, Apr 19, 2008.

  1. Tony Manifold

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    i think his opponent was either a renzo student or friend, so I guess out of respect renzo didnt want him to fight him. It happens all the time when teammates or affiliates go to tournies it seems like
     
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    That's too bad. I would think as long as both parties are mature enough to handle it, some inter-team competition would be OK. But I guess on the other hand, you don't want to foster an atmosphere where teammates don't share techniques or moves, etc. because they're worried about competing against each other.
     
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    He was going to fight Marcio Feitosa who is the head instructor at Gracie Barra and pretty much Carlos Gracie Jr.'s right hand man. Renzo Gracie is Gracie Barra as well and a black belt under Carlos Gracie Jr.. I think that is one of the reasons why he stepped down. I think that its a respect thing since Matt Serra is Renzo's blackbelt.
     
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  6. Travis Trayer

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    I think teammates not grappling each other is stupid.
     
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    Mikey Triangles Bending Joints the Wrong Way Since 1985

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    that's a great source you got that info from
     
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    it can create an awkward training environment. teammates holding back and/or being poor training partners in attempts to gain the 1 up in case of a face-off. instead of competing amongst teammates you concede to the senior teammate. no negative effects in the gym as a result.

    in this instance, I think it was more of a respect thing, though, as was already mentioned. bearcat was right on.
     
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    Things are changing.
     
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    I have never encounterd this in judo
     
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    If people don't brin g thier A_game to training how can you evolve?
     
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    True & would you really want to win that way?
     
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    I don't think its fair to classify them as "teammates" its not like they trained together regularly and the size of Barra makes basically a huge # of grapplers your "team-mate"...

    Thought, Serra probably didn't want to stir shit between Renzo and others.
     
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    If two people from the same gym won't compete against each other, then that gym should enter one guy. Use an in-house tourney to decide who is #1.
     
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    Thats just the thing, they arent from the same gym. They were from the same association. In this case, the association is just massive. All it means is the "senior" guys get to win by default even if they aren't the superior grappler.
     
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    I think its a lame tradition and I disagree with it, but honestly, if one of my long time coaches that I had a lot of respect for asked me not to compete against another student of his, I might do it for him.
     
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    its a respect thing... my master wont let us fight each other at tourneys so we flip a coin winner moves on
     
  18. Deloitte

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    Your master eh?
     
  19. Rayrobinson#1

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    Yeah sometimes you just have to no choice. It is after all a sport.

    It might be hard if one student is clearly better than the other.
     

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